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  1. Jordan_1's Avatar
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    Korean films > Hollywood
    I can only compare Korean films and Hollywood films in terms of the last few years but from what I've seem, Hollywood has been declining and Korean films are producing some of the best I've ever seen.

    The complete vengeance trilogy:
    -Oldboy
    -Sympathy for Mr Vengeance
    -Lady Vengeance

    -Man From nowhere
    -The Chaser
    -Mother
    -Thirst
    -The Good, the Bad and the Weird
    -A Bittersweet Life
    -I Saw the Devil
    -Memoirs of Murder

    Watch these, you won't regret it!

    There are more I have heard are good but still need to watch. Korean films just seem to be more gritty, brutal and realistic. There's usually great cinematography and there doesn't necessarily have to be a happy ending which is refreshing.

    Any other Korean movie fans or anybody with different opinion?
  2. mali167's Avatar
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    Re: Korean films > Hollywood
    (Original post by Jordan_1)


    There are more I have heard are good but still need to watch. Korean films just seem to be more gritty, brutal and realistic. There's usually great cinematography and there doesn't necessarily have to be a happy ending which is refreshing.
    I've seen all the ones that you suggested apart from Thirst. Going to try that one too. And I loved them all. You got a good choice mate. Do you try all foreign films or only korean ones?? I know a few good ones.

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0118849/
    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0191043/
    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0282864/
    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0445620/
    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0476735/
    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0169102/
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    Re: Korean films > Hollywood
    (Original post by Jordan_1)
    I can only compare Korean films and Hollywood films in terms of the last few years but from what I've seem, Hollywood has been declining and Korean films are producing some of the best I've ever seen.

    The complete vengeance trilogy:
    -Oldboy
    -Sympathy for Mr Vengeance
    -Lady Vengeance

    -Man From nowhere
    -The Chaser
    -Mother
    -Thirst
    -The Good, the Bad and the Weird
    -A Bittersweet Life
    -I Saw the Devil
    -Memoirs of Murder

    Watch these, you won't regret it!

    There are more I have heard are good but still need to watch. Korean films just seem to be more gritty, brutal and realistic. There's usually great cinematography and there doesn't necessarily have to be a happy ending which is refreshing.

    Any other Korean movie fans or anybody with different opinion?
    Realistic? Have you actually seen half the films you've listed :rofl:

    But I agree, Koreans do it better
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    Re: Korean films > Hollywood
    (Original post by mali167)
    I've seen all the ones that you suggested apart from Thirst. Going to try that one too. And I loved them all. You got a good choice mate. Do you try all foreign films or only korean ones?? I know a few good ones.

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0118849/
    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0191043/
    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0282864/
    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0445620/
    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0476735/
    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0169102/
    Yeah Thirst is pretty good, better than a lot of vampire films I've seen! I like a lot of other foreign films. City of God is one of my favourite films and I've seen quite a few films from other countries, can't always remember what they're called though haha.

    The films you posted look quite good, will definitely need to give them a try.
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    memoirs of murder :love:

    the end was just amazing. :eek:
  6. Jordan_1's Avatar
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    Realistic? Have you actually seen half the films you've listed :rofl:

    But I agree, Koreans do it better
    I was talking in terms of action as in it looks like they're actually hitting each other. Not in terms of story lines!
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    Re: Korean films > Hollywood
    (Original post by Jordan_1)
    I can only compare Korean films and Hollywood films in terms of the last few years but from what I've seem, Hollywood has been declining and Korean films are producing some of the best I've ever seen.

    The complete vengeance trilogy:
    -Oldboy
    -Sympathy for Mr Vengeance
    -Lady Vengeance

    -Man From nowhere
    -The Chaser
    -Mother
    -Thirst
    -The Good, the Bad and the Weird
    -A Bittersweet Life
    -I Saw the Devil
    -Memoirs of Murder

    Watch these, you won't regret it!

    There are more I have heard are good but still need to watch. Korean films just seem to be more gritty, brutal and realistic. There's usually great cinematography and there doesn't necessarily have to be a happy ending which is refreshing.

    Any other Korean movie fans or anybody with different opinion?
    LOVE Korean films. Did you see No Mercy: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1662557/ Basically a Korean Se7en, very slick.

    Also "Save the Green Planet!" is worth a watch. Sickeningly bizarre yet it pulls you right in. Same with I'm a Cyborg.
  8. Phalanges's Avatar
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    Re: Korean films > Hollywood
    It's perfectly acceptable to like both Hollywood and Korean filmmakers. You don't have to be caught in a zero sum game where to compliment one is to denigrate the other.

    Oldboy is still one of the most amazing films I've ever seen, both visually and dramatically. But that doesn't mean I can't still hold up Memento as a triumph of storytelling too.
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    The Man from Nowhere is one of my favourite films, it's basically a better version of Taken.
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    (Original post by Phalanges)
    It's perfectly acceptable to like both Hollywood and Korean filmmakers. You don't have to be caught in a zero sum game where to compliment one is to denigrate the other.

    Oldboy is still one of the most amazing films I've ever seen, both visually and dramatically. But that doesn't mean I can't still hold up Memento as a triumph of storytelling too.
    Im not claiming all Hollywood films are bad, they include some of the best films ever made, like you said Memento is a great film. But I feel as if they aren't producing any classics any more, all you see these days are endless sequels in attempt to make money...
  11. Phalanges's Avatar
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    (Original post by Jordan_1)
    Im not claiming all Hollywood films are bad, they include some of the best films ever made, like you said Memento is a great film. But I feel as if they aren't producing any classics any more, all you see these days are endless sequels in attempt to make money...
    Then you aren't looking hard enough.
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    East Asia gets a good rep compared to hollywood because you only notice the decent films over there and not the mundane/crap ones as well.
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    Then you aren't looking hard enough.
    Name me a Hollywood classic in the past 5 years?
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    (Original post by RJ555)
    LOVE Korean films. Did you see No Mercy: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1662557/ Basically a Korean Se7en, very slick.

    Also "Save the Green Planet!" is worth a watch. Sickeningly bizarre yet it pulls you right in. Same with I'm a Cyborg.
    Will check them out!
  15. Phalanges's Avatar
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    (Original post by Jordan_1)
    Name me a Hollywood classic in the past 5 years?
    It's difficult to name "classics", as the very nature of that title implies something that has retained its reverence over many years (I don't believe in instant classics). Instead I'll name a selection of what I think are very high quality films that don't fit into your other category of "endless sequels in an attempt to make money".

    The Assassination of Jesse James
    There will be Blood
    No Country for Old Men
    Michael Clayton
    The Dark Knight
    Wall•E
    The Wrestler
    Up
    The Hurt Locker
    Inglourious Basterds
    Up in the Air
    Inception
    Black Swan
    The Social Network
    The Fighter
    True Grit
    Hugo
    Drive

    That is by no means an exhaustive list.
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    (Original post by internet tough guy)
    East Asia gets a good rep compared to hollywood because you only notice the decent films over there and not the mundane/crap ones as well.
    Yeah. I like all the films I've seen from OP, but you've named 11 good films from 10 years (or more? I'm just going by the oldest one of those that I know of in the list). Hollywood puts out lots of crap but they also put out more than 11 good films every 10 years.
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    (Original post by Phalanges)
    It's difficult to name "classics", as the very nature of that title implies something that has retained its reverence over many years (I don't believe in instant classics). Instead I'll name a selection of what I think are very high quality films that don't fit into your other category of "endless sequels in an attempt to make money".

    The Assassination of Jesse James
    There will be Blood
    No Country for Old Men
    Michael Clayton
    The Dark Knight
    Wall•E
    The Wrestler
    Up
    The Hurt Locker
    Inglourious Basterds
    Up in the Air
    Inception
    Black Swan
    The Social Network
    The Fighter
    True Grit
    Hugo
    Drive

    That is by no means an exhaustive list.
    Some decent films there but none of them I would say are as good as the ones in my original post, personally. I've seen 13 out of the 18 you have listed and I thought they were quite forgettable.

    I guess it's just a matter of opinion and I may be overly critical of Hollywood films since im so used to the same thing. You can't deny though that there are a lot of films just re-releasing practically the same movie in order to make money. Such as the Saw films, Final destination, The Hangover films etc.
  18. Phalanges's Avatar
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    (Original post by Jordan_1)
    Some decent films there but none of them I would say are as good as the ones in my original post, personally. I've seen 13 out of the 18 you have listed and I thought they were quite forgettable.

    I guess it's just a matter of opinion and I may be overly critical of Hollywood films since im so used to the same thing. You can't deny though that there are a lot of films just re-releasing practically the same movie in order to make money. Such as the Saw films, Final destination, The Hangover films etc.
    Not all of the films from your original post that were released in the last 5 years, which is what you limited me to. But yes, taste is obviously a very subjective thing; I don't think any of those were forgettable, and all were well made.

    And yes, Hollywood does pump out some crap to turn a dime. The main difference between that and Korean cinema is that you are more aware of it from Hollywood because of where you live. It's a little like thinking of the films of the 70s compared to now; you only know the hits, because all the rubbish ones get forgotten. Wikipedia lists that 115 films were released from South Korea in 2011; I highly doubt they were all gold. And with titles such as "Marrying the Mafia IV", I suspect they may do some sequel-churning as well.
    Last edited by Phalanges; 02-04-2012 at 21:25.
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    Only Korean film I've seen is The Host. Top marks! :yy:
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    Watch Brotherhood. It's a Korean movie about the Korean War. Very good
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