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  1. jaime1986's Avatar
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    Re: Likelihood of gaining teaching post after PGCE
    (Original post by Jimbo1234)
    Yet none mention English uni's and as I said before, without a PhD you can not take part in current research ergo your teaching skill will fall behind.

    You will find all the subjects allowing to teach without PhD's will be vocational courses which are not degrees, thus have no research and only recently have unis offered a "degree" in the subject.

    Anyway, getting off topic so PM me if you want to reply
    Jonathan Baldwin, who is quoted in the article, does not have a PhD yet taught as a Senior Lecture at Brighton University for four years and is now Programme Leader at the University of Dundee.

    My partner has lectured for almost four years in a University's Computing and Engineering faculty after being asked to do so after presenting impressive Masters research; although he aims to do a PhD it it not at the top of his list at the moment as he is doing a Higher Education PGCE alongside writing course modules and lecturing 20+ hours a week. It would perhaps have been better to start his PhD when he was teaching less, but who in their right mind would turn down a lecturing job in a subject that they love.

    As an English student, every one of my lecturers had a PhD. However, it does not seem to be as necessary in other fields, especially in 'new' subject areas related to computing where new technologies are emerging all of the time.
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    Re: Likelihood of gaining teaching post after PGCE
    (Original post by jaime1986)
    Jonathan Baldwin, who is quoted in the article, does not have a PhD yet taught as a Senior Lecture at Brighton University for four years and is now Programme Leader at the University of Dundee.

    My partner has lectured for almost four years in a University's Computing and Engineering faculty after being asked to do so after presenting impressive Masters research; although he aims to do a PhD it it not at the top of his list at the moment as he is doing a Higher Education PGCE alongside writing course modules and lecturing 20+ hours a week. It would perhaps have been better to start his PhD when he was teaching less, but who in their right mind would turn down a lecturing job in a subject that they love.

    As an English student, every one of my lecturers had a PhD. However, it does not seem to be as necessary in other fields, especially in 'new' subject areas related to computing where new technologies are emerging all of the time.
    But both uni's are not very high. They are not bad, but nor are they good, and these "new" fields are really vocational courses and degrees did not exist for them, and it may not even be possible to achieve a PhD in those fields.
    As for computing, it is not actually that new and there are vast numbers of doctors in that field.
    As I said before, PM me as this is getting off topic.
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    Re: Likelihood of gaining teaching post after PGCE
    You don't 'need' a PhD to be a lecturer, I can assure you. Most lecturers have or are completing a PhD but they don't need one. It often depends very much on what subject they teach. My Dad was a lecturer in Law, with no PhD but his 30 years of Legal experience made him very valuable in his field. In certain subjects, departments will have lecturers with research degrees (PhDs) and lecturers with practical experience as they both bring different things to the table.

    I also work in a University, just FYI...
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    Re: Likelihood of gaining teaching post after PGCE
    (Original post by Jimbo1234)
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    Well I know at my Uni and all of my friends uni's that you needto have a PhD. Maybe lesser institutions are more lenient? :confused: What uni do you attend ?
    I love that you're implying that she goes to a 'lesser' university than you when you can't even use an apostrophe properly!
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    Re: Likelihood of gaining teaching post after PGCE
    (Original post by abbyheat)
    You don't 'need' a PhD to be a lecturer, I can assure you. Most lecturers have or are completing a PhD but they don't need one. It often depends very much on what subject they teach. My Dad was a lecturer in Law, with no PhD but his 30 years of Legal experience made him very valuable in his field. In certain subjects, departments will have lecturers with research degrees (PhDs) and lecturers with practical experience as they both bring different things to the table.

    I also work in a University, just FYI...
    You know that he will reply with

    PM me as this is off topic again!
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    Re: Likelihood of gaining teaching post after PGCE
    (Original post by jaime1986)
    You know that he will reply with

    PM me as this is off topic again!
    I mean PM me as this is off topic
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    Re: Likelihood of gaining teaching post after PGCE
    I have no idea what's going on, I just wanted to give people the facts
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    Re: Likelihood of gaining teaching post after PGCE
    (Original post by abbyheat)
    I have no idea what's going on, I just wanted to give people the facts
    I'm agreeing with yo, but when previous posters have given similar facts they have been told that it's off topic, lol
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    Ahaha, I see what you mean
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