[nosaer]

Dem muslims, coming to our country and stealing our grades

[Joinedup]

WRT muslim underperformance in state schools

http://www.muslimgovernors.org/

Unfortunately the statistics clearly illustrate that Muslims are severely underperforming compared to their counterparts and that we urgently need to devise strategies to reverse the trend. Through the Association of Muslim Governors, we hope that we will be able to forge a solid relationship between schools and the Muslim community. Muslim governors would serve as a voice for the Muslim community, and can highlight issues which are particularly important and affect Muslim children directly.

maybe muslims are really only capable of functioning properly when totally segregated??? is that such a positive message seems rather sad for them

[cosmobear92]

According to tsr, muslims are screwed either way, if they're on benefits they're lazy, dole scrounging so and sos, if they're doing well in faith schools we have a problem as well. Bearing in mind faith schools generally do perform well at GCSE and A-level.

Will a day never pass when muslims don't appear on tsr for some pointless thing or another?

[SpongebobSquarepan]

(Original post by frostmage)
Jealous? He doesn't even know you O.o .

Looks to me like it's yourself you're trying to convince, not us. Shouting from the rooftops how happy you are with life (with your complete "freedom") doesn't really bode well.

I'm not trying to convinve anyone I've got good grades whilst enjoying my life, some people just study and then practise religion 24/7 which to me seems really sad for you

(Original post by TheGrinningSkull)
Aww, what is there to be jealous of?

If anything, I think that for you to come out with such an absurd claim shows insecurity.

I haven't even met you so clearly you're trying to dodge the main point of this discussion, in which your initial comment is wrong.

not insecure about nout, i've got good grades good mates. Done loads of stuff in my time on this planet, had trials for birmingham city been travelling all over europe for example. You probably just revisie then go practising your religion 24/7 because your parents tell you to, it's basically been locked up. Which is a real shame

[Bonged.]

(Original post by Joinedup)
WRT muslim underperformance in state schools

http://www.muslimgovernors.org/



maybe muslims are really only capable of functioning properly when totally segregated??? is that such a positive message seems rather sad for them

perhaps. are there no non-muslim pupils allowed at that school then? My C of E primary school legally had to accept some non-christian pupils, who then sat out of religious education lessons. lol.

[Iqbal007]

(Original post by AkaJetson)
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Usually when people talk about the success of faith schools, they say it's because they take in a disproportionate number of rich/priveleged people to begin with. However..

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So given they usually take in a disproportionately high number of poor pupils who qualify for free meals, they produce excellent results beating every faith school on average except Jewish ones.
More proof.
An example of a comprehensive Islamic girls school in Blackburn which achieved a 98% GCSE pass rate in 2010 despite 16% of pupils being on free school meals.
Why do you think this is?

Because faith schools in general are very unlike the majority of state schools, a much stricter discipline is used in comparison. Majority require you to pay some sort of fee, etc as a result Parents are more involved in their childs education and the children feel the need to care as money is poured into their education.

[Chloe xxx]

(Original post by Tfaska)
They're probably just stricter schools with stricter parents. I went to a Roman Catholic school (but I'm a muslim) and it was definitely stricter than normal. We had all sorts of unexplained rituals that we had to do though, about which I always wondered "Why are we doing this when we could be learning maths?". But yeah, I suppose Christian families would want their children to get into Christian habits.

Islam promotes seeking knowledge as a form of worship, and things like "memorising the Quran" are rewardable. That makes memorising anything else look easy.

I also went to a Roman Catholic Primary and Secondary school, and the primary one far excelled other local primary schools in terms of grades etc. I imagine it was because a lot of the children there had privileged parents with a lot of money, and were often quite strict. My year wasnt too bad for this, yet still had far above average Grammar School entrants and academic achievement than other schools in the area.

My mum always used to feel bad as most of my sisters friends at primary were very well off, had huge houses, lots of pets, holidays and horses and other things little girls always want. She worried they would feel like they were missing out and such. So I think it may be to do with wealth, strictness, environment and such.

We would have to go to church once a week instead of a morning of schooling, always sang hymns, said prayers after dinner and other 'rituals' that you speak of.

Can't say any of it gave me solid christian values later in life

[Rtcw]

Large amount of Muslims underperform at normal schools because most Muslims have just arrived recently from foreign country having no previous official education experience.

[Charlottie93]

(Original post by SpongebobSquarepan)
I'm not trying to convinve anyone I've got good grades whilst enjoying my life, some people just study and then practise religion 24/7 which to me seems really sad for you


not insecure about nout, i've got good grades good mates. Done loads of stuff in my time on this planet, had trials for birmingham city been travelling all over europe for example. You probably just revisie then go practising your religion 24/7 because your parents tell you to, it's basically been locked up. Which is a real shame

I can't tell if you're a troll ... or just genuinely obnoxious

[y-y]

(Original post by Elipsis)
Muslim girls are barely allowed out of the house... what else are they going to do but study? If they're reaaaaal lucky their parents might let them go to a university that's more than 2 miles from the house :O

have you met a Muslim?
You'd be surprised how restricted we are (sarcasm intended)
Go out in the world and explore instead of staring at your computer screen all day long , I think it'd do you good

[Elipsis]

(Original post by y-y)
have you met a Muslim?
You'd be surprised how restricted we are (sarcasm intended)
Go out in the world and explore instead of staring at your computer screen all day long , I think it'd do you good

Obviously I have met a Muslim derpina. I know many male Muslims, who are allowed out of their homes in their free time. They were allowed to go to university miles away. Their sisters on the other hand had to go to the local uni, and after uni be married off to a cousin ASAP because they were beginning to be seen as 'past it'. Most Muslim families are very protective of the women, and want them to go seamlessly from being under the father to being under a husband. I also had a few local Muslim girls in my classes at university, who went straight to the library or home after classes. There were also a couple of female Muslims from abroad who kept solely to themselves and vacated any room as quickly as they could after seminars/lectures.

[TheGrinningSkull]

(Original post by SpongebobSquarepan)
I'm not trying to convinve anyone I've got good grades whilst enjoying my life, some people just study and then practise religion 24/7 which to me seems really sad for you


not insecure about nout, i've got good grades good mates. Done loads of stuff in my time on this planet, had trials for birmingham city been travelling all over europe for example. You probably just revisie then go practising your religion 24/7 because your parents tell you to, it's basically been locked up. Which is a real shame

Again, coming up with absurd claims and quite frankly, I am offended, disgusted and angry at how you make nonsense comments about my parents.
My parents have done nothing but try their very best to give me the best and easiest possible life I could wish for. Trying to give me a great education and get me involved in loads of activities and encourage me to be and do the best and strive for the best in whatever I do. To treat everyone with respect and treat people well.

You got good grades? Fine, good on you, Birmingham trial? Good achievement there, not sure if it's helped your character but anyway.

The thing is, I don't even feel out of touch with my friends. My friends respect the fact that I don't drink or gamble, and I respect them for that. I have awesome friends who I go out with when possible and still have a great time.

Again, you've never met me yet you still make false comments.

I have a few achievements myself but why are we showboating? It's going nowhere.

[y-y]

(Original post by Elipsis)
Obviously I have met a Muslim derpina. I know many male Muslims, who are allowed out of their homes in their free time. They were allowed to go to university miles away. Their sisters on the other hand had to go to the local uni, and after uni be married off to a cousin ASAP because they were beginning to be seen as 'past it'. Most Muslim families are very protective of the women, and want them to go seamlessly from being under the father to being under a husband. I also had a few local Muslim girls in my classes at university, who went straight to the library or home after classes. There were also a couple of female Muslims from abroad who kept solely to themselves and vacated any room as quickly as they could after seminars/lectures.

yes well luckily not all Muslims are that restricted

[noorul87]

Simply because of less distractions and with the help of God.

[Saada]

(Original post by Brutal Honesty)
It's well known poorer children do worse in school compared to those from wealthier backgrounds.

So? Your point is irrelevant. Those 'poor' kids were put in an environment that allowed them to excel. My point being their excelling has nothing to do with their background but their intelligence.