[PandyAndy]

(Original post by A level Az)
How does it criticise Islam? It doesn't, it just offends Muslims. If you want to criticise Islam then a well thought out argument is better than a picture.

It's more of an impact statement to say "we won't be threatened with death for drawing a picture."

[ummm]

Reminds me of the real slim shady...

[A level Az]

(Original post by PandyAndy)
It's more of an impact statement to say "we won't be threatened with death for drawing a picture."

But can't you see you're offending muslims by drawing it in the first place? The first time this occured was with the danish cartoon where a picture depicting Muhammad hiding a bomb in his turban was published. Is that really acceptable? Definitely not in my eyes. You're now continuing that hate by drawing pictures, following the cartoonists example. This isn't a statement against Islam, this is just provoking Muslims for no good reason. It's silly and it's childish, but above all that it's unnecessarily offensive.

[Mr. Tizzy XII]

(Original post by A level Az)
How does it criticise Islam? It doesn't, it just offends Muslims. If you want to criticise Islam then a well thought out argument is better than a picture.

It illustrates () the intolerance that some muslims have towards non-muslims not conforming to their views (when they have no such obligation). Threatening to kill those who depict Muhammad? What an arrogant overreaction.

Edit: In response to your 'it's just offensive' - that's not the point, it's the reaction - (big generalisation) I doubt you would get such a threatening and violent response if you were 'offensive' to other religions.

[shush]

(Original post by Politricks)
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so your a bengali but not a muslim,
am i right

[omgg]

Astagfirullah!

[A level Az]

(Original post by Mr. Tizzy XII)
It illustrates () the intolerance that some muslims have towards non-muslims not conforming to their views (when they have no such obligation). Threatening to kill those who depict Muhammad? What an arrogant overreaction.

Edit: In response to your 'it's just offensive' - that's not the point, it's the reaction - (big generalisation) I doubt you would get such a threatening and violent response if you were 'offensive' to other religions.

You're calling the man who all muslims look up to a terrorist, therefore indirectly calling all of them terrorists too. Is this something you agree with? Because that's what you're defending (the original cartoon, which this has started from).

[PandyAndy]

(Original post by A level Az)
But can't you see you're offending muslims by drawing it in the first place? The first time this occured was with the danish cartoon where a picture depicting Muhammad hiding a bomb in his turban was published. Is that really acceptable? Definitely not in my eyes. You're now continuing that hate by drawing pictures, following the cartoonists example. This isn't a statement against Islam, this is just provoking Muslims for no good reason. It's silly and it's childish, but above all that it's unnecessarily offensive.

I'm offended by people sending death threats to fellow human beings over a picture. So what if he drew a picture of Muhammad with a bomb in his turban? He wasn't harming anyone. The reaction was totally disproportionate.

The Imam bloke from Denmark stirred things up by taking pictures over to the Middle-East, some of which were not the ones published and had been created by his ilk for the purpose of getting everybody riled up.

[Mr. Tizzy XII]

(Original post by A level Az)
You're calling the man who all muslims look up to a terrorist, therefore indirectly calling all of them terrorists too. Is this something you agree with? Because that's what you're defending (the original cartoon, which this has started from).

No i'm not.

And i'm not defending the original cartoon either - I don't appreciate you making claims about what I said or think when they are blatantly false.

I clearly said that the reason that they chose to do this (and the OP picture was 2 years ago anyway so why bring it up now?) was because of the reaction it caused. Threats of violence and death for insulting a religion. Not acceptable in todays society.

[A level Az]

(Original post by PandyAndy)
I'm offended by people sending death threats to fellow human beings over a picture. So what if he drew a picture of Muhammad with a bomb in his turban? He wasn't harming anyone. The reaction was totally disproportionate.

The Imam bloke from Denmark stirred things up by taking pictures over to the Middle-East, some of which were not the ones published and had been created by his ilk for the purpose of getting everybody riled up.

You clearly have no idea of the importance of Muhammad to Muslims. If you can't empathise then there isn't much I'm going to be able to do over the internet to convince you. You already ignored half of what I wrote anyway.

I'm pretty sure an Imam didn't draw extra cartoons himself to piss everyone off in the middle east. I'm still surprised at how people are still jumping to this cartoonists defence, and not only that but continuing to piss off muslims and let them know that you hate them, because that's exactly what you're doing by drawing pictures of Muhammad, no matter what you may think you're trying to accomplish.

[A level Az]

(Original post by Mr. Tizzy XII)
No i'm not.

And i'm not defending the original cartoon either - I don't appreciate you making claims about what I said or think when they are blatantly false.

I clearly said that the reason that they chose to do this (and the OP picture was 2 years ago anyway so why bring it up now?) was because of the reaction it caused. Threats of violence and death for insulting a religion. Not acceptable in todays society.

If you support draw Muhammad day, you support the original cartoon as it follows the same agenda, there is no denying that. If you REALLY had issues with Islam or the way Muslims responded, the last thing you would do is draw another picture. If you truly wanted to criticise the Muslims reaction, you'd write an article or a well thought out argument, not another picture. Don't try to get away from your real intentions which is to provoke muslims even further, as there is nothing else to be gained from drawing pictures of Muhammad.

[Mr. Tizzy XII]

(Original post by A level Az)
If you support draw Muhammad day, you support the original cartoon as it follows the same agenda, there is no denying that. If you REALLY had issues with Islam or the way Muslims responded, the last thing you would do is draw another picture. If you truly wanted to criticise the Muslims reaction, you'd write an article or a well thought out argument, not another picture. Don't try to get away from your real intentions which is to provoke muslims even further, as there is nothing else to be gained from drawing pictures of Muhammad.

What are you talking about? I didn't draw any pictures. How hard is it for you to grasp that I do not condone what they are doing and am solely making a point about their reactions?

Don't bother replying to this, as clearly it is impossible to discourse with you - being incapable of comprehending the simplest of statements.

[A level Az]

I'm not going to read or respond to the quotes here anymore as I've said what I wanted to say (scroll up to read my points) and most of you are either repeating the same arguments or purposely hating on Islam/Muslims, and the latter I can't do anything about. Fact is, if you support drawing Muhammad you support hating Islam/Muslims in the same way the original cartoon was intended, and I have to say it is the most low-life thing EVER. I don't know why you think you're achieving what you think you're achieving by doing this, because it spreads nothing but hatred and isn't the right way to go about criticising Islam, or any other religion for that matter. Hope you've all learned something to be honest.

Oh, and feel free to neg, I'm working on those red gems

[JollyGreenAtheist]

Last time I checked, it was not a) illegal or b) worthy of death threats to mock a religion. Upon occasion, it can be somewhat tasteless or tactless, but in the same way that politicians make mockeries of each other in the House of Commons, no belief set should be free from the vilest criticism.

[JackG1]

I believe days like that are a fantastic idea; it reminds Muslims that just because you want your life to be ruled by a probably non-existant beard man in the sky the rest of us do not.

[Politricks]

(Original post by shush)
so your a bengali but not a muslim,
am i right

Yes, I used to be a Muslim, however I'm an atheist now.

[PandyAndy]

(Original post by A level Az)
You clearly have no idea of the importance of Muhammad to Muslims. If you can't empathise then there isn't much I'm going to be able to do over the internet to convince you. You already ignored half of what I wrote anyway.

I'm pretty sure an Imam didn't draw extra cartoons himself to piss everyone off in the middle east. I'm still surprised at how people are still jumping to this cartoonists defence, and not only that but continuing to piss off muslims and let them know that you hate them, because that's exactly what you're doing by drawing pictures of Muhammad, no matter what you may think you're trying to accomplish.

Of course I can empathise, you love the bloke, got it. I'm not saying don't be offended, I'm saying don't go round killing people and setting fires over it.

He took a dossier to the Middle-East (Akkari-Laban dossier), which contained images that were not part of the original Danish cartoon. At least one was completely unrelated to Muhammad. It depicted him as a pig, although the picture was originally about something different.

[Dandaman1]

Islam is frequently targeted simply because Muslims tend to kick up the biggest fuss over these issues and are more demanding in terms of censorship. Things like 'Draw Muhammad Day' wouldn't exist if Muslims didn't mind people (who aren't part of their religion) exercising their right to freedom of speech. Instead, if someone draws a freakin' cartoon, it is met with death threats, angry mobs, riots, embassies getting burnt down, etc. etc. Islam's ferocious intolerance to anything mildly offensive has made it the focus of criticism. You don't exactly help yourselves.

Sorry, but I'm not sure how else to put it

[YaaahSarah]

(Original post by Politricks)
Well, that's a massive generalisation, I'm an atheist and I see some Sunni Muslims in my school making fun of the Shia Muslim practise of beating themselves in remembrance of Ali, and make fun of the Hindu belief that one of the many gods is a cow. You can't generalise all Muslims as tolerant and respectful of other people's beliefs, just like you can't generalise Christians as being hateful towards Muslims, because many of the Christians I see respect Islamic beliefs, and there are others who aren't so respectful.

That is true, it is a generalization but devoting an entire day with activities etc to something is disrespectful to any religion is far more worse than people making jerk comments on other religions ( i personally think those people should keep their opinions to themselves - if not - that is something frowned upon by muslims :like stealing say) .

You are ,i am sorry to say one person ,out of billions. You may have a bad impression on muslims due to those in your school but they are NOT what Islam is meant to represent and NOR is the media. There are Bad Muslims and good Muslims. There are good Christians and bad Christians. They may be unevenly distributed either way however i'd say only the good Muslims represent Islam and vice versa towards christianity.

[YaaahSarah]

(Original post by PandyAndy)
http://www.adl.org/main_arab_world/a...rayal_jews.htm

Arab Media is Propaganda.. about the countless SNL videos and the whole american media stereotyping muslims as terrorists ... i could go on and on.

Devoting a whole day with activities and involving many people in it to do something that offensive to muslims and making it something favorable... is far far more worse than stupid caricatures drawn by random people.

Muslims that do that ( which is wrong in Islam but hey no one is perfect ) adopted this after they were made fun of in the same way. Playing tit for tat in their defense.