[mariann013]

(Original post by Thomas x)
How do I go about it? Because from what I can see it's basically a no shot unless you have family out there.

I'm fed up of **** old England. I so want a change. I don't even know what has made this come on. It's like I've just decided in the last couple of hours that I want out.

Everything seems to be happening out there, but nothing goes on in England.

I feel really down.

Emigrated to Canada 5 years ago, it is great for standard of living & economic prospects but can't stand the climate. Like UK? No way! where I live in Alberta there is basically 6 months of UK winter or worse temperatures go down to minus 30C and below every winter.
Having said that though it is a lot easier to emigrate here than US they have a points system and you don't necessarily need a job offer. My family are moving to the US because of the climate but it is really hard to do even with a masters in petroleum engineering and 20 years specialist experience like my Dad has he still had to find an employer willing to sponsor him.

[ifstatement]

(Original post by mariann013)
My family are moving to the US because of the climate

You're family is making a life changing decision just based solely on the climate? Wow really? What a pathetic excuse, I hate when people do that. They want to move somewhere just because the weather is better thinking it will solve all their problems and then find they actually don't like it because they have not looked into other aspects and find in the end they lost lots of money.

It is a known fact Canada has a higher standard of living compared to the states when you compare employer prospects and healthcare Canada BEATS America. Don't like the cold? Boohoo then move to a more mild city in Canada.

People who are moaning about the cold in Canada are either just wimps or actually have visited.

And no Canada is not a ice wasteland full of igloos

[JeremyLiang]

(Original post by ifstatement)
Wow really?

Yes ,I mean celebrities.
If I recall , Carly Rae Jepsen , Light , Hedley , Sum 41

[Thomas x]

(Original post by JeremyLiang)
omg..Why?
You know,there's a truth that loads of people are dying to move to the UK for a variety of reasons and I'm one of them.btw I'm from Asia.
Among 4 popular countries for studying abroad (UK,Canada,US,Australia),I choose the UK because it is attractive! It has unique culture,royal atmosphere,stunning landscape and great universities.What's more,the teaching system,the environment,the living standard are way better than my country(that doesn't mean I don't love my motherland,you know,everyone wants better life!)Actually,I could afford fees in any countries during my study,and I could choose what exams I take (e.g. Alevels, SAT,or just IELTS+Foundation).Eventually, I chose the UK,as I am obsessed with anything British.

Honestly,I did think about CAN,US and AUS. Well ,Canada is a bit cold imo, and I always think it has a sparse population.And when Canada crops up in my mind,I only remember Avril and Justin Bieber ,however its landscape is pretty beautiful !! For the US,I have to admit I love it,but I thought the undergraduate is only 3 yrs,and I wanna work and get into society ASAP so I didn't choose it.Plus,my parents think degrees in UK and US is better than Australia(no offense,just their opinions).

I want to live in the UK for lots of reasons.a,it is located in Europe,so I could travel during spare time. b.safe c.welfare and so forth.
Maybe you re in the prime of youth so you want a more exciting and dynamic life,I totally understand.But think about the future, statistics reveal that people living in the EU are happier than other places ,and it's universely accepted that Europe is a wonderful place to spend their lives.
So, be happy with your life . But after all,these are my opinions,I also wish you good luck on moving to your ideal places.

Yeah you're so right, but you know what it's like. I'm sure people who have never been to England want to come here, and I want to go there. Do you know what I mean?

I was speaking to an American in work the other night. I work in a pub. Lovely lady. She gave me a tip. She actually gave me a dollar, and I said...what am I suppose to do with that and laughed, so she got out a couple of pound instead . She was just traveling, but is moving over here permanently as she is bored with where she lives in America. She was saying how there are professional bar people in America and they're on like basic wage, but get about 100,000 a year. How they get tipped like every drink. Lovely lady and her accent was really nice.

Just shows you though. We all want to experience something different. Just feeling a bit down with it. Come to tomorrow I will probably be in a totally different mind set knowing me.

As for Justin Bieber. I love him! It's the main reason I want to visit Canada really.

[Newbie123]

(Original post by Thomas x)
As for Justin Bieber. I love him! It's the main reason I want to visit Canada really.

For real?

May I ask your age & gender?

[JeremyLiang]

(Original post by Thomas x)
Yeah you're so right, but you know what it's like. I'm sure people who have never been to England want to come here, and I want to go there. Do you know what I mean?

I was speaking to an American in work the other night. I work in a pub. Lovely lady. She gave me a tip. She actually gave me a dollar, and I said...what am I suppose to do with that and laughed, so she got out a couple of pound instead . She was just traveling, but is moving over here permanently as she is bored with where she lives in America. She was saying how there are professional bar people in America and they're on like basic wage, but get about 100,000 a year. How they get tipped like every drink. Lovely lady and her accent was really nice.

Just shows you though. We all want to experience something different. Just feeling a bit down with it. Come to tomorrow I will probably be in a totally different mind set knowing me.

As for Justin Bieber. I love him! It's the main reason I want to visit Canada really.

Aha,I could understand your thoughts.

Ohh, BTW: Why Justin Bieber? You have One Direction lol

[Thomas x]

(Original post by Newbie123)
For real?

May I ask your age & gender?

Male, 20.

(Original post by JeremyLiang)
Aha,I could understand your thoughts.

Ohh, BTW: Why Justin Bieber? You have One Direction lol

One Direction? Nah.

I just think he is really cute and his accent is amazing.

[rjm101]

(Original post by Thomas x)
Male, 20.



One Direction? Nah.

I just think he is really cute and his accent is amazing.

I had to design a bunch of promotional material for his film which meant I had to stare at his face for a good couple of hours. He looks like a girl. Just saying.

[mariann013]

(Original post by ifstatement)
You're family is making a life changing decision just based solely on the climate? Wow really? What a pathetic excuse, I hate when people do that. They want to move somewhere just because the weather is better thinking it will solve all their problems and then find they actually don't like it because they have not looked into other aspects and find in the end they lost lots of money.

It is a known fact Canada has a higher standard of living compared to the states when you compare employer prospects and healthcare Canada BEATS America. Don't like the cold? Boohoo then move to a more mild city in Canada.

People who are moaning about the cold in Canada are either just wimps or actually have visited.

And no Canada is not a ice wasteland full of igloos

Actually my family has lived in UK, US and Canada during the last decade so know what we are talking about.
Each place has good and bad points it really is just a matter of personal, circumstances, preference and taste. No doubt Canada has the best economic prospects as I pointed out. The UK is the best place to be poor, old or sick in. The US is only for those with secure high earning capacity but has the most lifestyle options.
As my family are wealthy wimps as you so kindly point out we feel the US is the best match for us based on direct experience and circumstances.
I suggest using weather Apps for comparing temperatures daily over time for people considering a move to get a good feel for how climates vary if that is an important issue for you. Clearly for people who choose Canada it is not.
I am interested in why Australia and New Zealand don't seem to get mentioned so much on these threads? Have they gone out of fashion or changed their policies recently?

[Organ]

There is plenty going on in the UK, premiership football, festivals, London, Edinburgh, countryside, cricket, rugby, close to Europe etc etc

Problem is probably you to be honest mate.

[Thomas x]

(Original post by Organ)
There is plenty going on in the UK, premiership football, festivals, London, Edinburgh, countryside, cricket, rugby, close to Europe etc etc

Problem is probably you to be honest mate.

I agree with the last bit.

Just having one of those days.

[cosmobear92]

(Original post by Thomas x)
How do I go about it? Because from what I can see it's basically a no shot unless you have family out there.

I'm fed up of **** old England. I so want a change. I don't even know what has made this come on. It's like I've just decided in the last couple of hours that I want out.

Everything seems to be happening out there, but nothing goes on in England.

I feel really down.

Maybe it's a phase? I went through a phase were I was obsessed with America and I was making all my plans to move there ... but I'm too attached to old Blighty

[somethingbeautiful]

Google BUNAC - you can get a 2 year Visa to live and work in Canada. To move there permanently you will have to pass their points system and/or be qualified for a job that they want more people for (doctors/nurses/engineers etc etc).

[Thomas x]

(Original post by somethingbeautiful)
Google BUNAC - you can get a 2 year Visa to live and work in Canada. To move there permanently you will have to pass their points system and/or be qualified for a job that they want more people for (doctors/nurses/engineers etc etc).

It's a 1 year visa and you need to pay for it.

How does the point system work?

If I decided to go out there for a year, but then wanted to stay how would I go about that?

[somethingbeautiful]

(Original post by Thomas x)
It's a 1 year visa and you need to pay for it.

How does the point system work?

If I decided to go out there for a year, but then wanted to stay how would I go about that?

It's 1 year, but you can do it twice in a lifetime under the age of 30 (as yes, of course you must pay for it ).

The points system is mainly based on your qualifications - you need at least 67 to get in. Have a look here: http://www.workpermit.com/canada/points_calculator.htm

You can take a test to check your points score here: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigra...sess/index.asp

I think if you went for a year and decided that you wanted to stay you would need reapply for a visa - there can be harsh penalties for overstaying your visa is many countries. You'd most probably need to have a job lined up in order to move there permanently.

[Welsh_insomniac]

(Original post by Organ)
There is plenty going on in the UK, premiership football, festivals, London, Edinburgh, countryside, cricket, rugby, close to Europe etc etc

Problem is probably you to be honest mate.

You mean in Europe?

[Organ]

(Original post by Welsh_insomniac)
You mean in Europe?

Haha yes good spot. Continental Europe I suppose!

[Welsh_insomniac]

(Original post by Organ)
Haha yes good spot. Continental Europe I suppose!

Yeah. I think it's a pretty good mention, though. Europe is such a cultural powerhouse that it's amazing to live only 4 hours (by flight) to somewhere like Greece or a Italy.

On a general note - I do understand why people move because of weather, though. Having sunny weather can encourage you to spend more time outside being active, provide you with fresher local food and usually means you eat healthier.

When it's raining and cold here in the UK... all I do is stay inside. Either in the house, or in the gym... and in winter there's little sunlight so getting up for work/school is tough. People tend to complain when the weather is crap and it turns people miserable and stifles optimism.

I think dismissing weather conditions is a little naive.

[Thomas x]

(Original post by somethingbeautiful)
It's 1 year, but you can do it twice in a lifetime under the age of 30 (as yes, of course you must pay for it ).

The points system is mainly based on your qualifications - you need at least 67 to get in. Have a look here: http://www.workpermit.com/canada/points_calculator.htm

You can take a test to check your points score here: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigra...sess/index.asp

I think if you went for a year and decided that you wanted to stay you would need reapply for a visa - there can be harsh penalties for overstaying your visa is many countries. You'd most probably need to have a job lined up in order to move there permanently.

I don't have any qualifications to be honest.

I've done bar work and have a Level 2 Diploma in the food and hospitality industry.

If I went over there for a year I'd just find a bar job or something to keep me busy while I'm out there.

Just seems rather impossible to remain there permanenetly if I liked it though.

It's a mind field, but I just really want to go traveling. I really don't know what has brought this on. It's all very spur of the moment.

[Sabertooth]

(Original post by somethingbeautiful)
It's 1 year, but you can do it twice in a lifetime under the age of 30 (as yes, of course you must pay for it ).

The points system is mainly based on your qualifications - you need at least 67 to get in. Have a look here: http://www.workpermit.com/canada/points_calculator.htm

You can take a test to check your points score here: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigra...sess/index.asp

I think if you went for a year and decided that you wanted to stay you would need reapply for a visa - there can be harsh penalties for overstaying your visa is many countries. You'd most probably need to have a job lined up in order to move there permanently.

Got 68 on that test. Haha I could move to Canada.