[InternetGangster]

(Original post by XxelliexX)
If making your body look that repulsive is an 'art'... then yes, it is indeed an art form I will never understand.

If you don't have anything nice to say, keep it to yourself?

[redbuthotter]

Yeah they're not as good, but you wanna take pressure off the shoulder and it is ok for that sometimes. I stick to machine preachers if they don't hurt me (left shoulder been ****ed for a long time).

Did you hammer upper back work like someone else said, like 100 reps on high rows/face pulls.

(Original post by catjaum)
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[catjaum]

(Original post by redbuthotter)
Yeah they're not as good, but you wanna take pressure off the shoulder and it is ok for that sometimes. I stick to machine preachers if they don't hurt me (left shoulder been ****ed for a long time).

Did you hammer upper back work like someone else said, like 100 reps on high rows/face pulls.

never do face pulls...would that help my shoulder or something???

[redbuthotter]

Depends why its ****ed up. If its from too much pressing so your shoulder is pulled forward from big(er) pecs, then yeah, developing upper back to pull it back into right place would help lol.

Do pencil test to check - http://thefitnesstech.blogspot.co.uk...ncil-test.html

(Original post by catjaum)
never do face pulls...would that help my shoulder or something???

[SweetsAndSugar]

I used to swim competitively (and whilst I know it's not the same thing) a physio told me to stop swimming altogether when I injured my arm (I'd repeatedly dislocated it) until the pain went away.
Your best best is probably to stop lifting until you can see a physio and have them assess the extent of the damage.
You could end up doing more harm than good by lifting when you're still in pain... as well as delaying how quickly you'll recover.
Best of luck

[catjaum]

(Original post by redbuthotter)
Depends why its ****ed up. If its from too much pressing so your shoulder is pulled forward from big(er) pecs, then yeah, developing upper back to pull it back into right place would help lol.

Do pencil test to check - http://thefitnesstech.blogspot.co.uk...ncil-test.html

failed the pencil test...lol......come to think of it...i do loads more pressing then rowing....might try and do back twice a week to help it recover.....but right now pull ups are impossible for me to do....just feels like my shoulders gonna tear apart....

(Original post by SweetsAndSugar)
I used to swim competitively (and whilst I know it's not the same thing) a physio told me to stop swimming altogether when I injured my arm (I'd repeatedly dislocated it) until the pain went away.
Your best best is probably to stop lifting until you can see a physio and have them assess the extent of the damage.
You could end up doing more harm than good by lifting when you're still in pain... as well as delaying how quickly you'll recover.
Best of luck

thanks...probably end up going doctor sooner then i would have anyway.....

[I-Am-A-Tripod]

close hands pressups wearing weighted backpack, great for tris.

[The Blind Monk]

Also consider doing/getting some soft tissue work done on the pecs, delts and bis. If your soft tissue situation isn't good, it can cause pain when loaded.

[redbuthotter]

Don't do vertical pulling, thats kind of dangerous, as is vertical pushing. You don't even need to do low rows. You wanna do high rows focusing on scapula retration/upper back/rhomboids/rear delts, that kinda stuff.

Yeah just do 5 x 10 or more on upper back 2 - 3 times a week and you'll be fine. + all the HI-RICE and usual rehab stuff.

(Original post by catjaum)
failed the pencil test...lol......come to think of it...i do loads more pressing then rowing....might try and do back twice a week to help it recover.....but right now pull ups are impossible for me to do....just feels like my shoulders gonna tear apart....



thanks...probably end up going doctor sooner then i would have anyway.....

[rogerharris]

get good home gym with back support, and flys etc. so even when injured you can still work on isolating other areas and keep the muscle metabolism going. Just have good deep heat for warm up.

[commandant]

Main priority would be getting it seen , just go and pay for a specialist regarding training, utilse TuT - very slow negarives will have yoi crying even with light weights.

I also remenber a reccomendation from pavel, if you outgrow weights, try a two step forward one step back . Lift a few inches, then go back one or two . Rrpeat for lift. It bloody hurts.

[RawJoh1]

(Original post by redbuthotter)
Depends why its ****ed up. If its from too much pressing so your shoulder is pulled forward from big(er) pecs, then yeah, developing upper back to pull it back into right place would help lol.

Do pencil test to check - http://thefitnesstech.blogspot.co.uk...ncil-test.html

Interesting (I failed pencil test). That link says:

You can also include some rear delt exercises too (rear delt pec deck, bent over dumbbell flyes). If you can't seem to get away from doing pressing exercises (bench press), just try to remember, for every pressing movement you perform, do 2-3 rowing movements as well.

2-3 rows per press? So does that mean that on a bench day where you do, say ... CGBP 3 sets, incline DB bench 3 sets you'd have to do 12-18 sets of row variants? Would that not take forever when you factor in triceps isolatione etc?

Hmmm ...

[sil3nt_cha0s]

^ I think it means in the sense of if you do bench press, do barbell rows and lat pulldowns to even that out (so 1 pressing movement and 2 rowing movements).

[RawJoh1]

(Original post by sil3nt_cha0s)
^ I think it means in the sense of if you do bench press, do barbell rows and lat pulldowns to even that out (so 1 pressing movement and 2 rowing movements).

OK, but even taken over the week. Let's say you do 6 sets of presses on chest day, 4 sets on shoulder day. 10 sets total, 4 different exercises. So that'd be 8-12 row variants. That's a lot of rowing to fit into your other 2 days in the gym.

Of course, this could just mean that bodypart style routines suck. Now I think about it, I do facepulls/rear delt flys twice a week and probably 8 sets of row variants in a week. Still don't think that is twice the amount of pressing I do. Might have to have a rethink.

[Ice Constricter]

Thats the kind of arms you get from masturbating with both hands.

[mikestraws]

(Original post by sil3nt_cha0s)
It's just obvious from both the extreme vascularity and how big they are. Feel free to prove me wrong if you want. I don't doubt you've worked hard in the gym for ~5 years, but there's no way you're natural, based on that pic.

And you're a doctor or a training profesional qualified to make that claim?

[The Blind Monk]

(Original post by RawJoh1)
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I failed the test as well. But have you ever considered doing a set of pullups/light rows/rear delts between every set of presses? It is pretty harmless on your recovery and is an easy way to get some work in. Done light with a good stretch and contraction, it will probably improve your mind-muscle connection with your back as well. Just a thought, though it is not necessarily practical in every gym.

[fuze-mo25]

why are your veins popping if it aint post workout ?

p.s nice arms if they are natural man keep at it

[bertstare]

****ing sick arms bro. u cant be natty though, cmon man

[snapper1]

That's an arm? Looks like a stub :/