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    Hello,

    I believe monogamous marriages are the ideal that God has for a man and a woman. I do not believe that one has to get married officially by the government or even by a religious organization. However, I do believe marriage is a commitment before God between one man and one woman who decide to be live life together, enjoy God's gift of sex, have (or not have) children, and ideally grow old together!


    My Dad and my Mom were both virgins when they got married at 18 years old. Both had been raised in Christian families where purity was strictly emphasized. Sadly, nowadays purity is not held in such high esteem, even tragically in some Christian families, as in the time of my parents (they are in their 50s now) but both grew up with the idea that sex is a precious gift between a husband and wife, and they both grew up with a monogamous mindset. Both had been raised in families where the husband and wife did not get divorced, the husband did not have other wives or girlfriends or mistresses, but rather each couple were a team. I still have pictures of my Mamaw and Papaw, my Mom's parents, when they were younger and together with their kids, and then together with their grandkids, before my Mamaw passsed away from cancer, before her and Papaw's 50th wedding anniversary.

    My parents have had ups and downs in their relationship. No marriage is perfect. However, my Dad is faithful to my Mom, and my Mom is faithful to my Dad. They trust each other, and are faithful to each other, which is a beautiful thing and a beautiful security for them and for their children.

    Now, there is nowhere in the Bible that specifically prohibits polygamous marriages, but I hope people can understand that there are many benefits to monogamous marriages. Below are the following, which I have personally seen by observing the marriage of my parents, as well as experiencing my own marrige with my amazing husband (though sometimes I nickname him "El Dictador" lol, but that's another topic.

    1. God created Adam and Eve, not Adam and Eve and Jane and Kathryn and Bianca. A man and a woman = Adam and Eve, are a beautiful team, two flesh becoming one. (Genesis 2:20-25) So, why not follow the original plan that God had for humans, for a man and a woman to become one flesh? It is beautiful!!!

    2. Women are by nature very sensitive. I am living proof of that. It is so easy to get upset, and I have put my husband through very wild roller coasters of emotion. However, my husband is very good at balancing my emotions with his patience and gentleness and strength. If, however, more women were added into the equation of "us', it would be very hard for the chemistry to flow in as beautiful a way as it does now...

    3. Children love seeing their mom and dad show each other in kind ways that they love each other. Everytime I see my Mom and Dad smile at each other, and laugh and enjoy time together, my heart beams. I have seen some children, both kids and adult sons and daughters, have visible pain in their eyes when they see their Mom and Dad not showing love to each other. Now, it is very possible in polygamous marriages for parents to show their love to each other. However, the competition between wives (and from what I've heard, there is almost always a favorite) that it makes it hard because there is always the comparing going on. However, children who are the offspring of a happy monogamous marriage do not worry about their Mom being their Dad's favorite or being loved, or not.

    Below is the ideal that Christians believe concerning what marriage is.


    Genesis 2 (NIV) - I boldened some.

    "21 So the LORD God caused the man to fall into a deep sleep; and while he was sleeping, he took one of the man’s ribs[Or took part of the man’s side] and then closed up the place with flesh. 22 Then the LORD God made a woman from the rib[Or part] he had taken out of the man, and he brought her to the man.

    23 The man said,

    “This is now bone of my bones
    and flesh of my flesh;
    she shall be called ‘woman,’
    for she was taken out of man.”

    24 That is why a man leaves his father and mother and is united to his wife, and they become one flesh. "

    To me, the above is so romantic!!! Matthew Henry says the following... I don't know if it's originally written by him or is a quote from someone else? I boldened his quote.

    "“The woman was made of a rib out of the side of Adam; not made out of his head to rule over him, nor out of his feet to be trampled upon by him, but out of his side to be equal with him, under his arm to be protected, and near his heart to be beloved.”
    ― Matthew Henry, Matthew Henry's Commentary on the Whole Bible: Complete and Unabridged in One Volume "

    I believe that is so true!!! Women are not sexual objects, not temporary gratification devises to be used then cast aside for a "newer model" Rather, a woman is a person who is equal with man, though different. Most men are stronger than most women. However, the strength is not to use to hurt, but rather to protect the woman he loves.

    Back to monogamous marriages: Healthy monogamous marriages include a connection that is more than just physical, but is also emotional, mental, and spiritual! Jesus confirms God's ideal of marriage when talking about divorce, accounted in Matthew.


    Matthew 19 (NIV) - I boldened some.

    "1 When Jesus had finished saying these things, he left Galilee and went into the region of Judea to the other side of the Jordan. 2 Large crowds followed him, and he healed them there.

    3 Some Pharisees came to him to test him. They asked, “Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife for any and every reason?”

    4 “Haven’t you read,” he replied, “that at the beginning the Creator ‘made them male and female,’[Gen. 1:27] 5 and said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh’[Gen. 2:24]? 6 So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate.”

    7 “Why then,” they asked, “did Moses command that a man give his wife a certificate of divorce and send her away?”

    8 Jesus replied, “Moses permitted you to divorce your wives because your hearts were hard. But it was not this way from the beginning."

    So, for many people who believe in God, monogamous marriages are the ideal. Marriage takes work... it takes commitment and shared goals and shared convictions, communication, comprise, and a sense of humor! I am grateful to be married to one man who I love very much and who I know loves me. We share convictions and goals, and even though we are very different from each other, we appreciate our differences and enjoy the life-long process of getting to know each other!

    Concerning you, what do you think? Do you prefer a monogamous marriage or a polygamous one or an "open marriage" or no marriage, and why? Thanks!

    Peace and God bless you
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    (Original post by Christianlady)
    Hello,






    1. God created Adam and Eve, not Adam and Eve and Jane and Kathryn and Bianca. A man and a woman = Adam and Eve, are a beautiful team, two flesh becoming one. (Genesis 2:20-25) So, why not follow the original plan that God had for humans, for a man and a woman to become one flesh? It is beautiful!!!


    In your haste to judge and dismiss ideals of progress, you made an error and the intended diatribe against same sex marriage (male in this case)fell flat.

    That being said, cool story, whatever makes you happy. I believe the definition of marriage is a cultural construct owned by society and not any religion and as such we are free to redefine it when the time comes/ need arises, in this case, I support same sex marriage.
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    God created Adam and Eve, not Adam and Eve
    No he didn't. Furthermore marriage predates the Abrahamic religions, using christian conventions as the idea of the "original plan" isn't really applicable. I'm not necessarily disagreeing that monogamous marriage is the best form of marriage (Although your emphasis on "man and woman" is somewhat disconcerting), just that your reasoning is flawed.
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    Personally I'd prefer monogamous marriage as I'd be incredibly hurt if my husband came home and said I want to marry blah blah and still be married to you... I think I'd slap him.

    But hey everyone is different and I know in the likes of the FLDS Polygamous marriage is perfectly acceptable e.t.c. so I guess it all stems to what you're used to. It seems so strange to us because we're not used to it, yet to others monogamous or even no marriage could be seen as something shocking.

    Are there many places in the world that still allow polygamous marriages?
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    (Original post by Vozhak)
    In your haste to judge and dismiss ideals of progress, you made an error and the intended diatribe against same sex marriage (male in this case)fell flat.

    That being said, cool story, whatever makes you happy. I believe the definition of marriage is a cultural construct owned by society and not any religion and as such we are free to redefine it when the time comes/ need arises, in this case, I support same sex marriage.
    I dont think the OP was trying to get at same sex marriage as they were talking about polygamy hence why it was adam and eve and katherine and bianca e.t.c. not adam and steve.
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    (Original post by Charlottie93)
    I dont think the OP was trying to get at same sex marriage as they were talking about polygamy hence why it was adam and eve and katherine and bianca e.t.c. not adam and steve.
    The OP did like to make a point of it being one man and one woman, not just two people. Although considering how this person is using the bible as the foundation of their opinion on marriage, I wouldn't be surprised if they share the bible's homophobic views too.
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    (Original post by Gofre)
    The OP did like to make a point of it being one man and one woman, not just two people. Although considering how this person is using the bible as the foundation of their opinion on marriage, I wouldn't be surprised if they share the bible's homophobic views too.
    True, we should just allow people to fall in love with and marry who they want at the end of the day.
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    Erm. Cool.

    MOST religious nutjobs safe their nonsense exclusively for their progeny. Could you not follow suit?
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    (Original post by Vozhak)
    In your haste to judge and dismiss ideals of progress, you made an error and the intended diatribe against same sex marriage (male in this case)fell flat.

    That being said, cool story, whatever makes you happy. I believe the definition of marriage is a cultural construct owned by society and not any religion and as such we are free to redefine it when the time comes/ need arises, in this case, I support same sex marriage.
    Hello Vozhak,

    Actually, it is not an error. Read it again please. God made Adam and Eve (one man and one woman) not Adam and Eve and three other females. That was the point I was making.

    You are free to believe what you want, same as I am. I believe the Bible is true.

    Peace and God bless you
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    (Original post by Gofre)
    The OP did like to make a point of it being one man and one woman, not just two people. Although considering how this person is using the bible as the foundation of their opinion on marriage, I wouldn't be surprised if they share the bible's homophobic views too.
    Hello Gofre,

    The thread is not about homosexuality. That is a different topic. This thread is about one man and one woman: a monogamous heterosexual marriage.

    Peace and God bless you
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    (Original post by Christianlady)
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    As a fellow Christian, here is some advice.
    If you want to make friends, spread your love of Jesus, and not make the rest of us look bad,
    don't start spouting out about your beliefs to people who don't want to here it.
    Live your life how you believe it should be, let others know that you are a Christian, and if they have any questions they will come to you.

    You are coming across as defensive, threatening and judgmental,
    people would have more respect for you and what you're saying if you had more respect for them.
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    (Original post by Popppppy)
    As a fellow Christian, here is some advice.
    If you want to make friends, spread your love of Jesus, and not make the rest of us look bad,
    don't start spouting out about your beliefs to people who don't want to here it.
    Live your life how you believe it should be, let others know that you are a Christian, and if they have any questions they will come to you.

    You are coming across as defensive, threatening and judgmental,
    people would have more respect for you and what you're saying if you had more respect for them.
    Hello Popppppy,

    I am curious. Do you believe Jesus told his apostles to make friends? Do you believe Jesus' apostles just went around making friends?

    I am grateful for the friends God has given me, who are from many different beliefs: Muslim, Atheist, Jewish Orthodox, Hindu, Agnostic, Wiccan, and Buddhist, as well as different denominations of Christians.

    Concerning your accusation, could you please quote me and explain to me how what I write is what you claim? Thanks.

    Peace and God bless you
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    I don't get this, sorry. I don't think people get married already thinking of getting divorced. Surely when people get married they have in mind a long marriage, otherwise they wouldn't bother. So I don't see what's to discuss here.

    Also, it is common sense that it is good for the children to have their parents together as a couple, providing that they respect each oher and are not fighting all the time/frustrated/sad and therefore influencing the kids negatively. So, what's to discuss here?

    You have made a few widely accepted remarks here and you backed them up using a book that most people here think is as important as Harry Potter.

    Is this a thread that only makes sense to Christians?
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    (Original post by Christianlady)
    Hello Popppppy,

    I am curious. Do you believe Jesus told his apostles to make friends? Do you believe Jesus' apostles just went around making friends?

    I am grateful for the friends God has given me, who are from many different beliefs: Muslim, Atheist, Jewish Orthodox, Hindu, Agnostic, Wiccan, and Buddhist, as well as different denominations of Christians.

    Concerning your accusation, could you please quote me and explain to me how what I write is what you claim? Thanks.

    Peace and God bless you
    What I'm trying to say is you catch more flies with honey than you do with vinegar.
    I believe your thread is wholly unnecessary and is very negative (Both in your original post, and the replies it has generated).
    If you want people to be more open minded about embracing Christianity, starting a thread all guns blazing is not the way to go about it.
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    (Original post by Christianlady)

    . God made Adam and Eve (one man and one woman) not Adam and Eve.
    So you say. So is this a thread about marriage or religion?

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    (Original post by Popppppy)
    What I'm trying to say is you catch more flies with honey than you do with vinegar.
    I believe your thread is wholly unnecessary and is very negative (Both in your original post, and the replies it has generated).
    If you want people to be more open minded about embracing Christianity, starting a thread all guns blazing is not the way to go about it.

    Hello Popppppy,

    Could you please point me to one of your threads or posts as an example? Thanks.

    Anyways, my goal is not to get people to embrace Christianity, but rather to explain what I believe. If you do not believe the same, that is your right and you are most definitely free to explain why you don't believe the same. I am not your Judge anymore than you are my Judge.

    Peace and God bless you
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    (Original post by ilovelabradors)
    So you say. So is this a thread about marriage or religion?

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    Hello Ilovelabradors,

    I guess it's a thread about both, which is why I put it in the section concerning religion. Most Christians believe marriage is an institution ordained by God.

    Peace and God bless you (and I love you screenname!!! I love dogs of all kinds, though my darling dog is a Yorkie!!!)
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    (Original post by DJMayes)
    The emphasis on "One man and one woman" does make it come across as if you as an OP are for the idea of monogamy only in the case of heterosexuality. I'm not clear what your views are but your constant repetition that sex is "God's gift between man and woman" can be misinterpreted by those who want to.

    Either way, that's an entire can of worms most people probably don't want to go into. Your emphasis on heterosexuality does cultivate a personal curiosity about what your opinions on an Adam and Edward would be, so to speak.
    Hello DJMayes,

    If you are curious about my belief concerning homosexuality, please feel free to look up my posts on the priest who accidentally showed gay porn.

    This thread though is more an emphasis on why I am for monogamous marriages, which means one man and one woman, as opposed to one man and many women. I am married, and I am writing from my experience, as well as from the experience of my parents who have been married for more than 34 years.

    If anyone would like to share and explain what they believe that is contrary to what I believe, they are free to do so.

    Peace and God bless you
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    (Original post by Christianlady)
    Hello Gofre,

    The thread is not about homosexuality. That is a different topic. This thread is about one man and one woman: a monogamous heterosexual marriage.

    Peace and God bless you
    I know, I was just responding to that person's post about where you stand on homosexuality. I was just saying since you seem to take the bible literally, you most likely share its bigoted views, something later confirmed in the gay porn thread.
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    (Original post by Gofre)
    I know, I was just responding to that person's post about where you stand on homosexuality. I was just saying since you seem to take the bible literally, you most likely share its bigoted views, something later confirmed in the gay porn thread.
    Hello Gofre,

    Thanks for explaining to the person who did not understand. As for what the Bible says, I did not write it. However yes, I do believe it is true. I do not hate homosexuals, nor do I want to kill them or hurt them in any way. Some of my favorite people in the world, including Jim Parson who is an awesome actor, as well as Anderson Cooper, who is a handsome news reporter, I think are homosexuals. I adore them.

    I believe that people are free to believe what they believe is true and that they should not hurt people who are different in any way. For people who do believe that the Bible is true and who had/are experiencing homosexual thoughts and want not be, that is between them and God, and Exodus International is a group of people who experienced that. I am not their Judge.

    Thankfully in most Western nations, there is freedom of religion. I exercise my right to freedom of religion and speech, and advocate others to do so as well.

    There are many bigots in the world. There are people who are bigoted against Christians, against Muslims, against Hindus, against Jewish people, against Atheists, against other beliefs, as well as practices and opinions.

    I am bigoted against murder for many reasons. I am also bigoted against stealing, sexual immorality, and hurting someone's feelings by calling them insulting names, bullies, and so on. What are you bigoted against?

    Peace and God bless you

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