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Rochdale Child Sex Trial- The Race Card is pulled out

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    The case isn't funny, but I can't help but laugh when I read:

    1. "'Child sex victims were prostitutes with enough business acumen to win The Apprentice', man at centre of sex gang trial tells court"

    2. "59-year-old took his sweater off and ripped out a clump of chest hair in court demanding why one of the victims didn't tell police about his hairy body"

    Wtf?
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    (Original post by dgeorge)
    FYI - just because someone has negged you doesn't mean that they disagreed that these guys are evil scum and that the girls are victims. It could also be that they disagree with other points that you have raised.
    My only point that was raised was the point that people on TSR apologise for their crimes, blame the victim and play the race card in their posts, in the same way this guy has done in court.

    So either you agree that these apologists are scum to feel the same way about the victims as the guys on trial, in which case I don't see what you are getting arsey about;

    Or you disagree, in which case I'd put you in the same boat as the criminal.

    (Original post by dgeorge)
    I never said that NO ONE who holds stupid/retarded racist views exists. They do. However, the vast majority of TSR posters don't, and its disengenious to complain saying that people are blaming these girls when NO ONE HAS
    What a fail.

    So what if the vast majority of TSR posters don't blame the victim I don't expect them to have because doing so is abhorrent. Then you are trying to use this as some sort of example that "NO ONE HAS"?

    Unbelievable.

    (Original post by BartholomewVarath)
    If a man walked off a cliff, I would not blame gravity for killing him, but the stupidity of the man for walking off a cliff. These girls should not have been drinking with these men in the first place, what are their parents doing?

    'The men charged in connection with the inquiry are Anjum Dogar, 30, and his brother Akhtar, 31, both of Tawney Street, and Kamar Jamil, 26, of Aldrich Road.

    Zeshan Ahmed, 26, of Palmer Road, Mohammed Karrar, 37, of Cowley Road and Bassan Karrar, 32, of no fixed address, also appeared in court earlier.' - From the first article posted by the OP.

    If you are in the company of men like these, being given alcohol by them, then it must suggest something about the utter stupidity of the girls doing it. Every society has its fair share of scum, and these girls were socialising with these scum bags. Perhaps the culture of these men is a major cause of the rape, I do not know, but blaming an entire religion because several scum bags raped some girls is not the way to go. Why were they drinking at the age of 13 anyway?
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    That is one of the most disgusting things i have just read about poor girls
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    (Original post by Bonged.)
    Say what? I asked you for proof that they do?
    You're the one that kept going on about the fact that the Pakistani's don't care that he raped a White girl, so the burden of proof is on you to prove that Pakistani's dont care

    Regardless, I have made a poll here:
    http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/show....php?t=1964401

    which shows that the Pakistani community do care about the victim, and do condemn the rapist
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    (Original post by marcusfox)
    My only point that was raised was the point that people on TSR apologise for their crimes, blame the victim and play the race card in their posts, in the same way this guy has done in court.

    So either you agree that these apologists are scum to feel the same way about the victims as the guys on trial, in which case I don't see what you are getting arsey about;

    Or you disagree, in which case I'd put you in the same boat as the criminal.



    What a fail.

    So what if the vast majority of TSR posters don't blame the victim I don't expect them to have because doing so is abhorrent. Then you are trying to use this as some sort of example that "NO ONE HAS"?

    Unbelievable.
    I said no one has in anyway tried to condone what was done. Do not try to twist my words please. I have not seen one person try to apologise in any way for what was done. You made some illogical jumps in reasoning and perhaps that is why you were negged.

    Stop trying to twist things that people have said in order to suit your agenda.
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    (Original post by dgeorge)
    I said no one has in anyway tried to condone what was done. Do not try to twist my words please. I have not seen one person try to apologise in any way for what was done. You made some illogical jumps in reasoning and perhaps that is why you were negged.

    Stop trying to twist things that people have said in order to suit your agenda.
    Oh the irony. You cut the quote out of my post and then said this.

    I hardly think I was negged for making illogical jumps in reasoning. Perhaps, which is more likely, I cut a little to close to the personal beliefs held by some persons on TSR.

    Considering you only have to browse other threads on this topic to find people making the exact same excuses for their behaviour.
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    (Original post by marcusfox)
    Oh the irony. You cut the quote out of my post and then said this.

    I hardly think I was negged for making illogical jumps in reasoning. Perhaps, which is more likely, I cut a little to close to the personal beliefs held by some persons on TSR.

    Considering you only have to browse other threads on this topic to find people making the exact same excuses for their behaviour.
    You don't know WHY. You can only speculate. You speculate that its because the others are apologetic. I think its because you deliberately twist things. I'll agree to disagree.
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    some of these muslim peoples are experts in pyschological abuse.

    blaming kids for rape is as low as it goes. This is what narcassists do. They blame everybody else for pointing out the problem and even dealing witht he situation. they seem to think they're superior or something.

    naracassists always use threats, intimidation, bullying tactis to silence the issue. i see this trait in so many of these cases. they're just naturally intolerant.

    In Spain their is the same problem with Muslim gangs raping children then blaming authorites for dealing with the situation.
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    (Original post by No Future)
    The case isn't funny, but I can't help but laugh when I read:

    1. "'Child sex victims were prostitutes with enough business acumen to win The Apprentice', man at centre of sex gang trial tells court"

    2. "59-year-old took his sweater off and ripped out a clump of chest hair in court demanding why one of the victims didn't tell police about his hairy body"

    Wtf?
    when you see so many peoples enthusiastic about covering up crimes it says alot about that community.

    Not so much enthusaism about dealing with their own issues or tackling anything which comes from ppl of their clique.

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    Throw bacon at them so they melt like some wicked witch things.
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    (Original post by sorafdfs)
    Throw bacon at them so they melt like some wicked witch things.
    What an intelligent post. You are an :bootyshake:

    Posted at 4:30am. I can only hope that you were pissed or stoned.
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    (Original post by dgeorge)
    What world do YOU live in? I haven't seen one person on this thread suggest or hint that this man and the people who did these crimes are anything but the lowest of scum. It irritates me when people ascribe false viewpoints to OTHERS in order to propagate a biased opinion. This guy is scum, and everybody agrees with that. Stop making up stuff to "prove" your opinions right.
    Anti Islamic bias? :rolleyes: I havnt mentioned Islam or Muslims ONCE on this thread, the only time it is mentioned is in the article when it says the man said the girl would screw the 'whole muslim population of Oldham and Rochdale'.

    Not my words. Yet again, what can I expect, not a decent answer just a slightly aggressive one that yet again brings up my so called Islamic hatred.
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    (Original post by dgeorge)
    I said no one has in anyway tried to condone what was done. Do not try to twist my words please. I have not seen one person try to apologise in any way for what was done. You made some illogical jumps in reasoning and perhaps that is why you were negged.

    Stop trying to twist things that people have said in order to suit your agenda.
    Sorry but you're a liar, he has just shown you one of many posts that blamed the girls and their parents.

    People of your mindset really will overlook absoloutely anything to apologize, won't you?

    Just because someone is negged, doesnt mean they are wrong. This forum is just full to the brim of apologists, you know the kind. They neg in tons, doesnt make any difference.
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    (Original post by Aspiringlawstudent)
    Every line was funnier and funnier.
    I agree, this is my personal favourite:

    He accused them of letting an 'illegal immigrant get away', adding: 'For all I know he could have been al Qaeda'.

    You couldnt make it up.

    He probably thinks saying this will turn the attention over to illegal immigrants and terrorists, which he probably thinks they are much more interested in. Talk about stereotyping oneself.
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    Lmao at "bone in a kebab" - they've translated an asian phrase and taken away any meaning it possibly had :rofl2:
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    (Original post by mel0n)
    Lmao at "bone in a kebab" - they've translated an asian phrase and taken away any meaning it possibly had :rofl2:
    Why, what does it actually mean?
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    (Original post by Chloe xxx)
    Why, what does it actually mean?
    Hard to explain. Someone who is an interference/uninvited - perhaps an odd one out depending on the situation...
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    (Original post by mel0n)
    Hard to explain. Someone who is an interference/uninvited - perhaps an odd one out depending on the situation...
    I see. Sounds right given the way he described the girl.

    To most people though, this will be amusing and will remind them of their local kebab shop.
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    (Original post by Chloe xxx)
    Sorry but you're a liar, he has just shown you one of many posts that blamed the girls and their parents.

    People of your mindset really will overlook absoloutely anything to apologize, won't you?

    Just because someone is negged, doesnt mean they are wrong. This forum is just full to the brim of apologists, you know the kind. They neg in tons, doesnt make any difference.
    Sorry but you're a liar, he has just shown you one of many posts that blamed the girls and their parents
    He did not show me one post. Not one. What are you talking about? All he did was say "they negged me, so it MUST mean that they disagree SPECIFICALLY with one of the several points I made" which is absurd because there were a NUMBER of other posts condeming this act, and none of them were negged (except for yours and his)
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    (Original post by Chloe xxx)
    Anti Islamic bias? :rolleyes: I havnt mentioned Islam or Muslims ONCE on this thread, the only time it is mentioned is in the article when it says the man said the girl would screw the 'whole muslim population of Oldham and Rochdale'.

    Not my words. Yet again, what can I expect, not a decent answer just a slightly aggressive one that yet again brings up my so called Islamic hatred.
    Anti Islamic bias?
    Shall I bring up any of your numerous posts/threads where you have repeatedly complained about muslims/immigrants?

    Or are you going to deny that you ever have?

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