Rapists dragged drunk girl and CCTV didn't spot them

btw, just wondering, isn't this what pretty much every girl says after she goes home with someone?

"I don’t go out to do that, I go out to have fun and go home.
'I’m not like that, I wouldn’t let people carry me somewhere and do that. I wouldn’t go and have sex with a stranger."

girls love sex until someone asks them about it

Both of you say "they shouldn't have raped her, but she could have avoided it easily". People just love being contrary. The internet was designed, after all, so that in case of a nuclear war military leaders would still be able to argue pointlessly with each other about exactly the same opinion.



so?

Forensic science is more advanced than it was 10-20 years ago. Not to mention that there is still an appeals system and the fact that if it was set up in this country I imagine there would be a certain period of time before they were executed - a British death row if you like. I don't care about personal feelings on this, I think we need to take a tougher stance on crime.

so why are you even talking about how drunk people get, what has that got to do with the situation she found herself in? Anything at all?

Mistakes are still made though - DNA evidence essentially comes down to a statistical analysis and is still often wrongly presented in court (see 'prosecutor's fallacy'.) Of most concern is fingerprint evidence which most people assume to be evidence of fact, i.e. it is a fact that these two fingerprint's match. This is incorrect, fingerprint evidence is just an opinion and sometimes the people forming these opinions get it wrong, even nowadays.

Forensic evidence can be a dangerous thing because people hold it in such high regard. While it is a useful tool, it is accepted all too readily by juries leading to wrongful convictions.

There have also been instances of criminals collecting DNA and planting it at the scene of their crimes in order to muddy the water...

There will always be the chance that the state may execute the wrong person - we will never ever be able to prevent that. For that reason, execution can never be re-introduced and should be abolished wherever it is still in place.

Don't blame the drink for putting her in a compromising situation, absolutely no, they are not related.

They must be Muslims, surely?!

Maybe she would've made it home well before then?

In my opinion many people (criminals) are opportunists and this opportunism can turn them in to criminals (eg the London riots looting). If you don't believe excess alcohol leaves you compromised to such attacks and muggings, you are truly having a laugh.

I was referring to people getting wasted out their minds, not the girl.

I havnt even read the article.

I do not know how drunk she was.

And I know you didn't say it, but I'm pretty sure most people couldn't fight off two attackers, never mind a woman (even if she's sober!)

she was wasted out of her mind, quite frankly.



lolol



drunk enough to pass out on a bench in a city centre, be carried across town and into a tent and be ****ed by two men and then dumped somewhere, and not remember a thing.

That is pretty damn drunk.

The fault is on the rapists not the girl. Otherwise, all girls who get very drunk would be being raped by everyone.

I think the fact you say she was '****ed' instead of raped, says a lot.

I'm very happy for you.



logic error.



What does it say?

BUT all the stupid hippy liberal ****ers stop the advance of technology to ensure they can smoke weed and have 'privacy' .

What? This is absoloute rubbish I'm afraid.


ALSO why the hell are vulnerable women turning away help! They should make it a crime to do so, I mean all of this could have been avoided if she wasn't programmed for self destruction. Not justifying it, just condemning her actions aswell.

Explain why its a logic error. If it was the girls fault for being very drunk, can we therefore say all girls who get very drunk get raped?

Fact is they don't, because most men arnt evil and perverted (not too sure about the last one, but hey).

Do you drink? Do you ever go out clubbing? Have you any idea what you are talking about with regards to this matter?

You do know, girls could have been GHB'd through no fault of their own, and actually not drank very much?

'What does it say?'- You are of similar irk to my ex, who as I said considered people I was raped by as people I had actually '****ed'. You are of the same mindset. You have no sympathy for rape victims.

Thats ok, not many people do, it just makes them immediately question if she was a slut, dressed tarty, or drunk.

I hope it never happens to their daughter or mother, thats all I can say.

No, we can not say that, haha. These things are complex and have many causes leading up to it. If those men hadn't found her and decided to take her, it wouldn't have happened. If she hadn't got so drunk that she fell unconscious alone outdoors, it wouldn't have happened. Numerous other factors come into it, such as "if her friends stayed with her", "if the CCTV operators saw her", etc etc.



we all are, most are just afraid of the repercussions.

All men, or all people are evil and perverted? Not to sure what the rest of the human race makes of this sweeping generalisation, but hey. Your arguments are absoloutely awful.

rarely, never, yes.



omgitspossibleiguesslololol

This shows your blatant immaturity.

so were you raped without being ****ed? I'm not sure I understand



tbh if someone raped my mum they should go to a nut house, not prison.

It is possible to be relatively sober, or tipsy one minute and smashed the next. Stop judging this girl.

through her own choices and actions, yes. No one gets drunk by accident, lol. We all know what happens to us when we drink.