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  1. joey11223's Avatar
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    Young British Muslims more conservative than their elders?
    Stumbled upon a few reports by independent think tanks on differing cultural views and It was interesting to see that in surveys the 16-24 age group of Muslims seem the most conservative, or at least more approving of certain aspects of Sharia law, then older generations.

    http://dvmx.com/British_Muslim_Youth.pdf (report I've just read here, there are other surveys too.)


    Just a few selected questions and comparisons..

    "The following is a list of laws that are defined in most scholarly
    interpretations of sharia law. Please say if you personally agree or
    disagree with the law mentioned..."

    1) That a Muslim woman may not marry a non-Muslim:

    16-24: 56% agree

    45-54: 40% agree

    2) That Muslim conversion is forbidden and punishable by death:

    16-24: 36% agree

    45+ (covers two age brackets, 45-54 and 55+): 19% agree

    3) That homosexuality is wrong and should be illegal:

    16-24: 71% agree

    45-54: 54% agree

    55+: 50% agree



    Just wondering why this is the case? I would have assumed that being born and growing up with a Western influence, over their parents and grandparents who may have immigrated here, todays Muslim youth would actually be more liberal then previous generations, yet the opposite appears true?
    Last edited by joey11223; 06-04-2012 at 21:41.
  2. Golden_Boy786's Avatar
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    Re: Young British Muslims more conservative than their elders?
    Why do you care?
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    Re: Young British Muslims more conservative than their elders?
    (Original post by Golden_Boy786)
    Why do you care?
    Why do you care that I care?
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    Re: Young British Muslims more conservative than their elders?
    The number of Muslims is growing tremendously, the older generation had a chance to do what they wish without there parents knowing, however, the current generation cant do nothing secretly as even friends and family will turn against them. The longer they keep living like this, the more they start believing in it.
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    Re: Young British Muslims more conservative than their elders?
    (Original post by joey11223)
    Why do you care that I care?
    Bro u dnt even kno wat ya on bout, jst shut up innit yh
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    Re: Young British Muslims more conservative than their elders?
    I would of thought that younger Muslims would be liberal,

    however i think these questions are influenced by older teachers who are conservatives. Most Muslims are liberal such as the older generations but the liberal Muslims think that they don't have the strong faith and its better they learn from a strict conservative and therefore they are influenced by a conservative
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    Re: Young British Muslims more conservative than their elders?
    (Original post by joey11223)
    Why do you care that I care?

    Why do you care enough to ask him whether he cares if you care? To extend that, would you care to add a poll on whether or not TSR members care?
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    Re: Young British Muslims more conservative than their elders?
    (Original post by Golden_Boy786)
    Why do you care?
    um... because we all have to live in this society?
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    Re: Young British Muslims more conservative than their elders?
    (Original post by joey11223)
    Stumbled upon a few reports by independent think tanks on differing cultural views and It was interesting to see that in surveys the 16-24 age group of Muslims seem the most conservative, or at least more approving of certain aspects of Sharia law, then older generations.

    http://dvmx.com/British_Muslim_Youth.pdf (report I've just read here, there are other surveys too.)


    Just a few selected questions and comparisons..

    "The following is a list of laws that are defined in most scholarly
    interpretations of sharia law. Please say if you personally agree or
    disagree with the law mentioned..."

    1) That a Muslim woman may not marry a non-Muslim:

    16-24: 56% agree

    45-54: 40% agree

    2) That Muslim conversion is forbidden and punishable by death:

    16-24: 36% agree

    45+ (covers two age brackets, 45-54 and 55+): 19% agree

    3) That homosexuality is wrong and should be illegal:

    16-24: 71% agree

    45-54: 54% agree

    55+: 50% agree



    Just wondering why this is the case? I would have assumed that being born and growing up with a Western influence, over their parents and grandparents who may have immigrated here, todays Muslim youth would actually be more liberal then previous generations, yet the opposite appears true?
    All Muslims brought up here go through a phase, when they get older they realise theres the way of living the western life without restricition or they find their faith.
    The older generations are more conservative in terms of cultural influence. In this case the younger generations are conservative cos of their faith.
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    Re: Young British Muslims more conservative than their elders?
    This has gone so off topic.
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    Re: Young British Muslims more conservative than their elders?
    Due to 9/11, 7/7, the Iraq and Afghanistan wars, Islam in the media etc. The rise in Islamic conservatism is due to political events.
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    Re: Young British Muslims more conservative than their elders?
    Their elders immigrated to this country partly because they didn't like the authoritarian, theocratic governments of the country from which they came. Their children, however, didn't so are more likely to be supportive of such rules coming into practice.
    Last edited by electriic_ink; 06-04-2012 at 22:30.
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    Really depends on how they got a sample and if its representative of young british muslims and old ones.
    As a Muslim I'd like to say I am very liberal and don't follow the conservative group identity so many fall into.
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    Re: Young British Muslims more conservative than their elders?
    (Original post by ilovelabradors)
    This has gone so off topic.
    You've obviously not been on TSR for long
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    Re: Young British Muslims more conservative than their elders?
    (Original post by joey11223)

    Just wondering why this is the case? I would have assumed that being born and growing up with a Western influence, over their parents and grandparents who may have immigrated here, todays Muslim youth would actually be more liberal then previous generations, yet the opposite appears true?

    Yes because most of the older generation did not attend Mosque as they weren't many mosques around, therefore they are less religious and culture is much more important to them.But almost all of the newer/younger generation go to Mosque and attend Islamic lectures and many get taught that the western lifestyle is haraam.
    Last edited by illuminating; 06-04-2012 at 22:40.
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    Re: Young British Muslims more conservative than their elders?
    (Original post by electriic_ink)
    Their elders immigrated to this country partly because they didn't like the authoritarian, theocratic governments of the country from which they came. Their children, however, didn't so are more likely to be supportive of such rules coming into practice.
    Let's be honest and say that most people came for work, and not because they wanted to escape any thing. Most Muslims in this country are Pakistani and AFAIK, Pakistan was a lot more peaceful back then (Minus the whole East/West Pakistan, Bangladesh thing)
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    Re: Young British Muslims more conservative than their elders?
    (Original post by joey11223)
    Stumbled upon a few reports by independent think tanks on differing cultural views and It was interesting to see that in surveys the 16-24 age group of Muslims seem the most conservative, or at least more approving of certain aspects of Sharia law, then older generations.

    http://dvmx.com/British_Muslim_Youth.pdf (report I've just read here, there are other surveys too.)


    Just a few selected questions and comparisons..

    "The following is a list of laws that are defined in most scholarly
    interpretations of sharia law. Please say if you personally agree or
    disagree with the law mentioned..."

    1) That a Muslim woman may not marry a non-Muslim:

    16-24: 56% agree

    45-54: 40% agree

    2) That Muslim conversion is forbidden and punishable by death:

    16-24: 36% agree

    45+ (covers two age brackets, 45-54 and 55+): 19% agree

    3) That homosexuality is wrong and should be illegal:

    16-24: 71% agree

    45-54: 54% agree

    55+: 50% agree



    Just wondering why this is the case? I would have assumed that being born and growing up with a Western influence, over their parents and grandparents who may have immigrated here, todays Muslim youth would actually be more liberal then previous generations, yet the opposite appears true?


    i think the main difference is that they can see what is realy going on in western society. they see can see the real image other then the 'perfect civilization' that western media portrays is false and deep down it is SICK and TWISTED. these people see the dirty little secrets that westerners try to hide. i mean if you go on the news then you will see what i mean. front page stories like father locks up doughter for 24 years and rapes her, 15 year old son kills his mother and not to mension the horrid sexual crimes that one could only imagin. they don't want their sister suffering the same fate as a 14 year old pregnant british girl, hence they are more conservative.
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    Re: Young British Muslims more conservative than their elders?
    (Original post by de_monies)
    Let's be honest and say that most people came for work, and not because they wanted to escape any thing. Most Muslims in this country are Pakistani and AFAIK, Pakistan was a lot more peaceful back then (Minus the whole East/West Pakistan, Bangladesh thing)
    Really? Thought many (or most?) pakistanis came from Kashmir region which was embroiled in ethnic violence as a result of partition.

    Also - up to the mid fifties pakistani education was extremely similar to english education. Young pakistanis would have learnt about shakespeare etc. They were already knowledgable to some extent about English culture and would probably have some appreciation for it as it would be mostly positive views on the "mother country" in the curriculum.
    Last edited by Bonged.; 06-04-2012 at 22:52.
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    Re: Young British Muslims more conservative than their elders?
    (Original post by kaboon-supreme)
    i think the main difference is that they can see what is realy going on in western society. they see can see the real image other then the 'perfect civilization' that western media portrays is false and deep down it is SICK and TWISTED. these people see the dirty little secrets that westerners try to hide. i mean if you go on the news then you will see what i mean. front page stories like father locks up doughter for 24 years and rapes her, 15 year old son kills his mother and not to mension the horrid sexual crimes that one could only imagin. they don't want their sister suffering the same fate as a 14 year old pregnant british girl, hence they are more conservative.
    How are they hiding these secrets if they're front page news?
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    (Original post by de_monies)
    You've obviously not been on TSR for long
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