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    (Original post by Ayshizzle)
    I suspect she's talking about this prophecy in the Qur'an about some pharaoh.
    Am I correct in guessing this prophecy is extremely ambiguous and could potentially be linked to any number of pharaohs at any point of time in egyptian history?
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    (Original post by Gofre)
    Am I correct in guessing this prophecy is extremely ambiguous and could potentially be linked to any number of pharaohs at any point of time in egyptian history?
    Hmm, I must say it must be a massive coincidence, that the Qur'an mentioned that "Today we will preserve your body so you can be a Sign for people who come after you", and that the body was discovered in 1897, only one. It is amazing that a body could have been preserved for so long by any standards.
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    (Original post by sulexk)
    Hmm, I must say it must be a massive coincidence, that the Qur'an mentioned that "Today we will preserve your body so you can be a Sign for people who come after you", and that the body was discovered in 1897, only one. It is amazing that a body could have been preserved for so long by any standards.
    Seriously, that's it?
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    (Original post by sulexk)
    Hmm, I must say it must be a massive coincidence, that the Qur'an mentioned that "Today we will preserve your body so you can be a Sign for people who come after you", and that the body was discovered in 1897, only one. It is amazing that a body could have been preserved for so long by any standards.
    There was a huge conversation on here about this the other day. Which pharaoh are you on about?
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    (Original post by sulexk)
    Hmm, I must say it must be a massive coincidence, that the Qur'an mentioned that "Today we will preserve your body so you can be a Sign for people who come after you", and that the body was discovered in 1897, only one. It is amazing that a body could have been preserved for so long by any standards.
    Erm just a quick point.... many bodies have been well preserved through history.
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    (Original post by amime)
    Erm just a quick point.... many bodies have been well preserved through history.
    Hmm, that is astonishing. To think a body (or bodies) can be preserved for thousands of years. However how do we know whether it were a hundred years or thousands of years?(I understand they use carbon dating).
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    What criteria can we use to recognise whether certain historical accounts are true or not?
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    (Original post by sulexk)
    Hmm, that is astonishing. To think a body (or bodies) can be preserved for thousands of years. However how do we know whether it were a hundred years or thousands of years?(I understand they use carbon dating).
    If you know how they determine the age of a body, why are you asking how they determine the age of a body? :facepalm2:
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    (Original post by Hype en Ecosse)
    If you know how they determine the age of a body, why are you asking how they determine the age of a body? :facepalm2:
    It is possible that they may use other techniques.
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    (Original post by sulexk)
    Hmm, that is astonishing. To think a body (or bodies) can be preserved for thousands of years. However how do we know whether it were a hundred years or thousands of years?(I understand they use carbon dating).
    It's not really that astonishing. It's called mummification, It is well documented on how it is done, and has even been repeated with a man I believe called 'Dave' who died about a year or two ago and the results of the body so far look really promising. We can tell the bodies age through various dating methods.

    edit: The man was called Alan not Dave lol...

    http://www.channel4.com/programmes/m...ts-last-secret

    Another way of determining the age is looking at how old the tomb is that they were buried in I presume.

    Here is the head of King tut...
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    (Original post by Gofre)
    Am I correct in guessing this prophecy is extremely ambiguous and could potentially be linked to any number of pharaohs at any point of time in egyptian history?
    Yeah, think we were all arguing about it on the ex- Muslims thread the other day. Not sure if you saw it. We ended up coming to the conclusion that this mysterious pharaoh hasn't been found yet, or that it's not a miracle and is just describing a mummified pharaoh of which there are a fair few.

    (Original post by sulexk)
    Hmm, that is astonishing. To think a body (or bodies) can be preserved for thousands of years. However how do we know whether it were a hundred years or thousands of years?(I understand they use carbon dating).
    Haven't you heard of mummification before?! It was an extremely common and well- known practice among the ancient Egyptians. And there wasn't just one found- there's been loads.
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    (Original post by member910132)
    I don't know about you, but in my life I am considering all mainstream religions, not these one's people make up to support an argument (a religion/God whose sole purpose is to punish Muslim's)
    the point is no religion can provide any real evidence that their god exists, if they could then everyone would follow that religion. The concepts of gods people make up for an argument have the same possibility of being true as the gods proposed by mainstream religions because neither has any evidence supporting the idea. Simply having a lot of people believe it isn't proof of anything, if you want to join a religion because you like the teachings, think it will better your life or for cultural reasons then that's your choice but joining one simply because you are trying to cover all bases so to speak makes no logical sense since even if we consider there is a god we have absolutely no way of knowing what its personality is like and who it will choose if anyone to take to an afterlife.
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    (Original post by sulexk)
    Can you make such a claim when you consider the history of mankind over the last 16 centuries?
    I think some elaboration is required?
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    I think the biggest problem with Pascal's Wager (which isn't usually the first that people think of) is that belief isn't something you choose. It's just a result of whatever appears to be the case.

    For example: I believe that there are clothes in my wardrobe, because they were there last time I checked.
    I can't just voluntarily decide to believe that there are no longer clothes in my wardrobe. I can promise to say that they're gone, sure. But I can't actually believe that they're gone, out of choice. If I opened up the wardrobe and saw they weren't there, then I'd be forced to believe they were gone, and I wouldn't be able to believe otherwise.

    The Muslim the OP is talking about appears to have the wrong idea about what Islam commands with regards to belief anyway.

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