Further Maths + Maths and not Physics?

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  1. iSoftie's Avatar
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    Further Maths + Maths and not Physics?
    o.O

    Everyone says that maths helps physics and that it's hard doing further maths and maths but not doing Physics A level.
    Is that true? Because I always thought Physics was just a bit of a drab and always had a head for maths.

    D:
    I just want to know the whole maths/physics A level overlap scenario.
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    Re: Further Maths + Maths and not Physics?
    (Original post by iSoftie)
    o.O

    Everyone says that maths helps physics and that it's hard doing further maths and maths but not doing Physics A level.
    Is that true? Because I always thought Physics was just a bit of a drab and always had a head for maths.

    D:
    I just want to know the whole maths/physics A level overlap scenario.
    I think Maths+FMaths+Physics is too math related and unvaried.
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    Re: Further Maths + Maths and not Physics?
    I did Maths and Further Maths but no Physics (my other A-levels were French and Psychology) and I found it fine. The later Mechanics modules were a bit of a pain but I wasn't specifically disadvantaged by not having done Physics, it was more to do with my general lack of interest in the stuff. (And if your head's screwed on well enough you can avoid those modules by self-teaching pure stuff or stats modules if necessary.)
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    Re: Further Maths + Maths and not Physics?
    (Original post by iSoftie)
    o.O

    Everyone says that maths helps physics and that it's hard doing further maths and maths but not doing Physics A level.
    Is that true? Because I always thought Physics was just a bit of a drab and always had a head for maths.

    D:
    I just want to know the whole maths/physics A level overlap scenario.
    I found that further maths helped me with some of the calculations in physics (well the mechanics modules anyway), but physics didn't help me with further maths. But the only time maths and physics really overlap is during the mechanics modules. And there is someone in my class doing maths and further maths but not physics, and they're doing better than quite a lot of other people i know doing all three.
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    Re: Further Maths + Maths and not Physics?
    The only real issue would be with mechanics modules, and even then M1 is pretty doable so its just the later ones that might give you a bit of a problem. That said you could just do the other applied modules and not bother with M2/3, then you'd barely notice. I know plenty of people who did maths and further without physics and found it fine, go for it if you want
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    Re: Further Maths + Maths and not Physics?
    Doing Maths and Further Maths without physics should be no disadvantage to you. It would obviously help with the Mechanics modules, but there are only a couple of those.

    It is usually Physics student who are advised to take Maths, not the other way round
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    Re: Further Maths + Maths and not Physics?
    I did Maths+FM but no Physics like the above person. The only time in which physics really helps you is the mechanics units. But it is possible to get a good mark in Mechanics even without physics (unfortunately it wasn't my case because I don't think mechanics was my type).
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    Re: Further Maths + Maths and not Physics?
    (Original post by Dalek1099)
    I think Maths+FMaths+Physics is too math related and unvaried.
    Maths, FM and Physics go great together. So how would it be unvaried for somebody who wants to do a Maths/Physics degree?
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    Re: Further Maths + Maths and not Physics?
    (Original post by nuodai)
    I did Maths and Further Maths but no Physics (my other A-levels were French and Psychology) and I found it fine. The later Mechanics modules were a bit of a pain but I wasn't specifically disadvantaged by not having done Physics, it was more to do with my general lack of interest in the stuff. (And if your head's screwed on well enough you can avoid those modules by self-teaching pure stuff or stats modules if necessary.)
    Self teach myself which modules o.O I'll just be choosing Core and FP and maybe S1
    Last edited by iSoftie; 07-04-2012 at 23:31.
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    Re: Further Maths + Maths and not Physics?
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    Self teach myself which modules o.O I'll just be choosing Core and FP and maybe S1
    Well, you might not have to self teach... Even though you find Physics a drag, are you good at the subject? Because if you are, you might not have that much of a problem with the Mechanics modules...
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    Re: Further Maths + Maths and not Physics?
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    Do you like Statistics??
    S1 is my LEAST favourite module.
    I ruddy hate Stats.
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    Re: Further Maths + Maths and not Physics?
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    I ruddy hate Stats.
    Hmm... Why don't you like it? Graphs are a boring so are box plots -GCSE level- and you can easily make a mistake but compared to the alternatives I'd rather do that than Decision making or Mechanics.

    "Well, you might not have to self teach... Even though you find Physics a drag, are you good at the subject? Because if you are, you might not have that much of a problem with the Mechanics modules..."

    (Sorry cant multi-quote I'm a forum noob).
    Nah I really am not planning on doing that I just have a head for imaginary maths o.o also see, me lacking in Physics wouldn't do so well in the Mechanic Modules.
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    Re: Further Maths + Maths and not Physics?
    I do Maths and F.M and I found it easier to avoid mechanics - self teaching D2. I did attend a few lessons for mechanics but found myself getting left behind as most of the class did physics too and I believe there is a lot of overlap between the two. As said above just avoid the mechanics modules like myself if you don't fancy them.
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    Re: Further Maths + Maths and not Physics?
    (Original post by iSoftie)
    Hmm... Why don't you like it? Graphs are a boring so are box plots -GCSE level- and you can easily make a mistake but compared to the alternatives I'd rather do that than Decision making or Mechanics.

    "Well, you might not have to self teach... Even though you find Physics a drag, are you good at the subject? Because if you are, you might not have that much of a problem with the Mechanics modules..."

    (Sorry cant multi-quote I'm a forum noob).
    Nah I really am not planning on doing that I just have a head for imaginary maths o.o also see, me lacking in Physics wouldn't do so well in the Mechanic Modules.
    First of all, you can multi quote by clicking the orange button to the right hand side of the 'Quote' button

    When it comes to Maths, I absolutely love number theory, algebra, trigonometry etc. Not so much the data handling side. Only really like the aspects of Maths which fall into the 'Pure Mathematics' Category. But I also love Physics, therefore will enjoy mechanics too, which is actually 'Applied Maths'. But this is the only aspect of Maths I enjoy outside of pure Maths

    I have never looked at Descicion Maths, so I can't comment on it I can do Statistics, I just don't enjoy it as much as Pure.

    It would be ok for you if you only took Maths, as you could avoid the Mechanics modules, but with FM along side it, I'm not sure there is an efficient way of dodging mechanics /:
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    Re: Further Maths + Maths and not Physics?
    (Original post by iSoftie)
    Hmm... Why don't you like it? Graphs are a boring so are box plots -GCSE level- and you can easily make a mistake but compared to the alternatives I'd rather do that than Decision making or Mechanics.

    "Well, you might not have to self teach... Even though you find Physics a drag, are you good at the subject? Because if you are, you might not have that much of a problem with the Mechanics modules..."

    (Sorry cant multi-quote I'm a forum noob).
    Nah I really am not planning on doing that I just have a head for imaginary maths o.o also see, me lacking in Physics wouldn't do so well in the Mechanic Modules.
    There is no ISSUE.

    I think it has already been said but those who do Physics are advised to do maths. Those who do maths and further maths can do physics as usually people who like maths tend to like physics since there is a fair amount of maths in physics, but choosing physics to help with maths won't be much help at all.
    The only overlap between maths and physics is M1. Even M2,M3,M4 are scarcely similar to physics since the level of maths is much higher in these mechanics modules compared to physics; in these modules you find little overlap.

    All in all, the only advantage of doing Physics is that it will be essentially more practice for M1. And it will not be a disadvantage to not take Physics.
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    Re: Further Maths + Maths and not Physics?
    I also do maths and further but I don't do physics. The people in my class that do physics say it helps them a little but maths goes into far much more depth so there won't be any real advantage. Plus I did better in the mechanics modules than those who do physics, go figure lol.
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    Re: Further Maths + Maths and not Physics?
    (Original post by iSoftie)
    Everyone says that maths helps physics and that it's hard doing further maths and maths but not doing Physics A level.
    Who is "everyone"? Taking Physics A level won't have any impact on how you do at Maths/FM.
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    Re: Further Maths + Maths and not Physics?
    (Original post by WaNaBe)
    I do Maths and F.M and I found it easier to avoid mechanics - self teaching D2. I did attend a few lessons for mechanics but found myself getting left behind as most of the class did physics too and I believe there is a lot of overlap between the two. As said above just avoid the mechanics modules like myself if you don't fancy them.
    I wasn't aware that you could avoid certain modules by self teaching others! Is it really that easy to avoid? Would not prefere the reassurance of having a teacher to supervise you? And would you advise this dodging to somebody who was 'OK' at physics? Or just those who are particularly bad at it?
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    Re: Further Maths + Maths and not Physics?
    There is a big overlap with the mechanics modules of maths and the physics course. However, it is my experience that the maths makes the physics course easy, not the other way around. So if you do well in the maths and further maths, physics would be an easy A-level for you, but wouldn't really benefit the maths. It depends what you want to do at university, but be wary of those who say maths, FM and physics is too constrained - if you want to go into either maths or physics it's perfectly fine.
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    Re: Further Maths + Maths and not Physics?
    (Original post by iSoftie)
    o.O

    Everyone says that maths helps physics and that it's hard doing further maths and maths but not doing Physics A level.
    Is that true? Because I always thought Physics was just a bit of a drab and always had a head for maths.

    D:
    I just want to know the whole maths/physics A level overlap scenario.
    Its not that it would be difficult without Physics, its just that you are already learning a 1/3 of Physics content in your maths mechanics modules so it overlaps a fair bit which is why Physics goes well with either single or +further maths.

    If you think Physics is a drab then do something else although you will definitely have to put more effort into learning History A level with your subject combination than Physics A level.
    If you where doing humanities and social sciences then it would be vice versa.
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