[Morgsie]

One of the reasons for the lack of productivity is because of an eventful week.

[Morgsie]

I would like point out an observation, why is it that my lot are more productive than the socialists and they get more votes than us?

[Metrobeans]

The monthly scores have been reset and these are the results for Week 5 of the TSR Motion and Bill Challenge.

Week 5: 7th - 13th May inclusive

TSR Government.............4 points - 2 bills, 0 motions

TSR Labour Party............0 points - 0 bills, 0 motions

TSR Liberal Democrats....0 points - 0 bills, 0 motions

TSR Libertarian:..............2 points - 1 bill, 0 motions

TSR Socialist...................0 points - 0 bills, 0 motions

JPKC............................ ..0 points - 0 bills, 0 motions

barnetlad.......................0 points - 0 bills, 0 motions

Private member congrats go to internetguru for submitting a bill!

Congrats to the Government for winning the week!

[toronto353]

Are you counting the treaty in the total?

[Metrobeans]

(Original post by toronto353)
Are you counting the treaty in the total?

Nope. I think it's kind of unfair to count stuff which can only be done by the Government. It's good that you are submitting treaties and statements, but it's what should be expected of TSR Governments, so you don't get extra credit!

[toronto353]

(Original post by Metrobeans)
Nope. I think it's kind of unfair to count stuff which can only be done by the Government. It's good that you are submitting treaties and statements, but it's what should be expected of TSR Governments, so you don't get extra credit!

Curse you Nick! Foiled again.

[TopHat]

Labour came from behind to win last month, and we'll come from behind to win this month. :P

[internetguru]

Private member congratz woo even though the bill will be opposed by every party in the house.

[Metrobeans]

The results for week 6 and 7 of the Motion challenge are below


Week 6-7: 14th - 27th May inclusive

TSR Government.............0 points - 0 bills, 0 motions

TSR Labour Party............3 points - 1 bill, 1 motion

TSR Liberal Democrats.....3 points - 1 bill, 1 motion

TSR Libertarian:..............2 points - 1 bill, 0 motions

TSR Socialist...................2 points - 1 bill, 0 motions

JPKC............................ ..0 points - 0 bills, 0 motions

barnetlad.......................1 points - 0 bills, 1 motion


Total results

TSR Government.............4 points - 2 bills, 0 motions

TSR Labour Party............3 points - 1 bill, 1 motion

TSR Liberal Democrats....3 points - 1 bills, 1 motion

TSR Libertarian:..............4 points - 2 bill, 0 motions

TSR Socialist...................2 points - 1 bill, 0 motions

JPKC............................ ..0 points - 0 bills, 0 motions

barnetlad.......................1 points - 0 bills, 1 motion

Private member congrats go to Ham and Cheese, Mr Dangermouse and internetguru for submitting motions!

Congrats to the Labour and the Lib Dems for winning the past two weeks!

[RoryS]

(Original post by Metrobeans)
TSR Government.............0 points - 0 bills, 0 motions

This part is pretty disappointing, what does the government have to say on the matter?

(Original post by Rakas12)
QFA

(Original post by toronto353)
QFA

[JPKC]

I think this is a poor judge of actual performance. It's easy to submit plenty bills that don't go anywhere (I think this challenge is actually bad for activity because it's creating this incentive to go for quantity and not quality), the real test is to put out decent stuff that gets through, or sparks a lot of debate. That's the point of a model legislature after all. So far this is how the House looks: (With the first number being the total amount of bills submitted and the second being the amount passed.)

TSR Government 8 4 50%
TSR Opposition 9 3 33.3%
TSR Libertarian Party 4 4 100%
TSR Socialist Party 3 1 33.3%
TSR Liberal Democrats 5 1 20%
JPKC (as an independent MP) 3 3 100%

Looks like the Libertarians'll be continuing their winning streak from last term.

[Metrobeans]

(Original post by JPKC)
I think this is a poor judge of actual performance. It's easy to submit plenty bills that don't go anywhere (I think this challenge is actually bad for activity because it's creating this incentive to go for quantity and not quality), the real test is to put out decent stuff that gets through, or sparks a lot of debate. That's the point of a model legislature after all. So far this is how the House looks: (With the first number being the total amount of bills submitted and the second being the amount passed.)

TSR Government 8 4 50%
TSR Opposition 9 3 33.3%
TSR Libertarian Party 4 4 100%
TSR Socialist Party 3 1 33.3%
TSR Liberal Democrats 5 1 20%
JPKC (as an independent MP) 3 3 100%

Looks like the Libertarians'll be continuing their winning streak from last term.

I accept there is no perfect measure of performance, but I don't think it is appropriate for me to use number of bills passed as a measure of performance, as it is quite political. A bill which fails isn't necessarily bad, but it may not allign with the politics of the members voting.

You make a fair point about poor quality bills being submitted though.

[Moleman1996]

(Original post by Metrobeans)
I accept there is no perfect measure of performance, but I don't think it is appropriate for me to use number of bills passed as a measure of performance, as it is quite political. A bill which fails isn't necessarily bad, but it may not allign with the politics of the members voting.

You make a fair point about poor quality bills being submitted though.

I don't think there have been many particularly bad serious bills, but I get what you're saying about how the statistics might not be representative. At least we've got something to debate this term though

[Morgsie]

The Stats by JPKC don't make sense

[Rakas21]

(Original post by RoryS)
This part is pretty disappointing, what does the government have to say on the matter?

A lapse on our part, we should have bills coming out this week and once exam season is over we will be at optimum activity levels.

[RoryS]

(Original post by Rakas21)
A lapse on our part, we should have bills coming out this week and once exam season is over we will be at optimum activity levels.

Okay - thanks for that

[JPKC]

(Original post by Morgsie)
The Stats by JPKC don't make sense

What part don't you get?

Assuming you're referring to the Lib Dems, you've submitted/co-sponsored 5 bills so far this term (yes/no?), and only one of these has passed into law (the Fair Pay Act 2012!), correct?

[JPKC]

(Original post by Metrobeans)
You make a fair point about poor quality bills being submitted though.

I just think the challenge should be abandoned and replaced with a more ad hoc supervision of what parties are up to. As much as I like the idea of discussing HGV regulation and tax on female sanitation products etc. etc., I do feel a line should be drawn somewhere. Effort should be the main criteria for deciding how well a party's done IMO. Of course the bill passage measure is as flawed as the challenge, though it does shine some light on the problems with the current system - namely that lots of stuff gets chucked in and then withdrawn without a second's worth of thought.

[Birchington]

(Original post by JPKC)
A more ad hoc supervision of what parties are up to.

Hopefully Ad HOC will do just that

[toronto353]

(Original post by RoryS)
This part is pretty disappointing, what does the government have to say on the matter?

As you can see we have a new Bill out tonight along with a third reading. I'm hoping to work on some more stuff in the MUN shortly to bring before the House (though that won't be counted in the statistics) and there's more to come. A lot of people have exams though so really I don't think that you can argue this point too much because obviously activity dips around exams.