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Religion helps people. Is Dawkins evil?

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    Religion helps people. So why then are atheists and dawkins in particular so bothered about telling people that it does not exist?

    Imagine if a person told a sick and dying patient that their placebo tablets were fake, even though they knew the placebo tablets alleviated their suffering?
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    People don't go starting wars, blowing themselves up or persecuting one another over placebos.
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    To summarise,

    "Atheism and Richard Dawkins are evil because placebos can alleviate the suffering of sick people"

    Is this the best you can do?
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    (Original post by Clip)
    People don't go starting wars, blowing themselves up or persecuting one another over placebos.


    Government is the greatest cause of war in History. Not religion.
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    (Original post by natchina)
    Religion helps people. So why then are atheists and dawkins in particular so bothered about telling people that it does not exist?

    Imagine if a person told a sick and dying patient that their placebo tablets were fake, even though they knew the placebo tablets alleviated their suffering?
    Because religion also causes a lot of harm in the world, too. Simply because it makes some people feel better it doesn't mean that 1.) it's a good thing and 2.) that it's true.
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    wow, she has the answers!
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    (Original post by natchina)
    Government is the greatest cause of war in History. Not religion.
    It doesn't need to be the greatest cause, as long it's a substantial cause.
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    Crusades, Thirty Years' War, purges, persecution of scientific minds, witch hunts, terrorism, hate crimes.

    Yes, religion makes the world a better place.
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    As a theist, I assure you, people like you do more damage to religion that Dawkins ever will.


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    Sure, it helps people but causes problem for a lot of people too.

    I'm not anti- religion, but you can't say that no suffering has arisen from it.
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    (Original post by natchina)
    Religion helps people. So why then are atheists and dawkins in particular so bothered about telling people that it does not exist?

    Imagine if a person told a sick and dying patient that their placebo tablets were fake, even though they knew the placebo tablets alleviated their suffering?
    and you think people judging others for not having the correct placebos is good? you think people FIGHTING those who have different placebos is good because they think its inferior/unworthy? you think people hoping those who dont have placebos will die a horrible death is good to?

    the questions go on...

    youre just hyperboling for effect


    (Original post by electriic_ink)
    To summarise,

    "Atheism and Richard Dawkins are evil because placebos can alleviate the suffering of sick people"

    Is this the best you can do?
    my bad, accidentally negged you :/
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    I'm religious and your comment is ridiculous.

    Religion has, in many ways, caused evil throughout history, but your comparison is terrible simply because there's so much more to it; the whole situation and debate is a lot more complex than you've made it out to be.
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    Just because it comforts them doesn't mean it's true. So we should lie to ourselves is the essence of your argument is it not?
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    Dorkins is just another millionaire dumping on poor people
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    (Original post by natchina)
    Religion helps people. So why then are atheists and dawkins in particular so bothered about telling people that it does not exist?

    Imagine if a person told a sick and dying patient that their placebo tablets were fake, even though they knew the placebo tablets alleviated their suffering?
    How would a placebo tablet be alleviating the suffering of a dying patient?

    Religion =/= placebo, normal people =/= "sick and dying"

    This terrible analogy, along with your supposition that religion "helps people", is why you're getting backlash.
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    (Original post by Dmon1Unlimited)
    my bad, accidentally negged you :/
    OK. Don't worry about it :cool:
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    (Original post by Ayshizzle)
    Sure, it helps people but causes problem for a lot of people too.

    I'm not anti- religion, but you can't say that no suffering has arisen from it.
    Thankyou for this reply. I was being swamped by glib male quips there.....

    My point was that religion, no matter what you think of it, helps individuals through difficult times. so it seems cruel to tell people that they and their family are nothing but animals. And that life after death does Not exist.

    Militant Atheists like dawkins remind me of the sort of people who would tell small children that father Christmas does not exist.


    Surely, they can express their ideas in a more humble and compassionate way?
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    (Original post by natchina)
    Religion helps people. So why then are atheists and dawkins in particular so bothered about telling people that it does not exist?

    Imagine if a person told a sick and dying patient that their placebo tablets were fake, even though they knew the placebo tablets alleviated their suffering?
    Its actually very easy to not believe that a cosmic Jewish zombie who was his own father and can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because some rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...

    What 'placebo' will give me that hallucination?
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    (Original post by natchina)
    Thankyou for this reply. I was being swamped by glib male quips there.....

    My point was that religion, no matter what you think of it, helps individuals through difficult times. so it seems cruel to tell people that they and their family are nothing but animals. And that life after death does

    Militant Atheists like dawkins remind me of the sort of people who would tell small children that father Christmas does not exist.


    Surely, they can express their ideas in a more humble and compasinate way?
    You make it sound like Richard Dawkins personally visits dying old Christian ladies to convince them that there is no after-life.

    It's not cruel to speak your mind - in fact it's a human right. Most of what Dawkins says is at least rational.

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