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  1. Miracle Day's Avatar
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    Re: Why i won't be shopping at John Lewis
    (Original post by Jimbo1234)
    ...yet is a religious holiday being turned into a cash maker so much so, that they won't even call it by the correct name. There is no "neutral point of view". That behaviour is morally deplorable and offensive to anyone who is Christian.
    I'm not offended?
  2. DaveSmith99's Avatar
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    (Original post by lonelyknight)
    This.

    I genuinely find the whole thing ignorant, dismissive and insulting. Whether people like it or not, England is Christian country! I know tons of athiests who fully acknowledge this & aren't offended by it. Our society has been built on the Christian values, and it's not like Christianity is an uber controlling religion or anything. You don't even have to go to church - so long as you believe in God and have good morals etc. At least that's what i've been taught. And what the heck is wrong with that?

    TBH, it just seems like another attack on Christianity. Oh the joys of multiculturism
    About 7% of the population are practising christians. We aren't a christian, whether you like it or not.
  3. Llamageddon's Avatar
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    Re: Why i won't be shopping at John Lewis
    (Original post by Jimbo1234)
    But OP is right and not on any "high horse" :facepalm2:
    It is the Easter Weekend.
    If you do not believe in it, then get back to work you skiving ****s.
    It's sunday pal.
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    Re: Why i won't be shopping at John Lewis
    (Original post by the bear)
    John Lewis... the archetypal Middle England shopping experience...until now

    They have jumped on the loony left PC bandwagon by abandoning Easter in favour of

    "Spring Celebration Weekend".

    Well they can celebrate it without me in future. Biting the hand that feeds them.



    http://www.johnlewis.com/Magazine/Fe...bration_050412
    OMG, In an attempt to be politically correct and religiously impartial, they have ended up sounding like complete idiots. Regardless of whether or not you believe that Jesus died and rose again after 3 day to save the world's sin, EVERYONE knows this period to be called Easter and everyone associates with spending time with loved-ones, so why change it name, because you feel that an extreme minority might complain or feel ostracised and left out by calling it Easter.
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    Re: Why i won't be shopping at John Lewis
    Load of rubbish. I fully support JL.

    Why should a company, or anyone for that matter, be criticised for not openly supporting a particular religion? Blimey, we get criticised enough for actively supporting one faith over another. It seems companies can't win!

    Sure, it's a good marketing move to open up 'Easter' to all faiths (although note there is still an easter egg hunt, so it's not as though JL is renouncing Christianity altogether - not that I would mind if it did!) and I fully support them for that. Thus, I will continue to shop at John Lewis principally because it sells good quality items, is convenient and has excellent customer service. Their approach to religion does not and will not have any effect on my shopping experience. And for that reason, I think the OP is being way over the top.
    Last edited by Rascacielos; 08-04-2012 at 13:47.
  6. Ruthie!'s Avatar
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    Re: Why i won't be shopping at John Lewis
    I think that they would have offended more people calling it an Easter celebration when that page is clearly advertisement for them and their products with no reference of the fact it is Easter weekend except for an easter egg hunt which is so clearly a religious practice...
    Last edited by Ruthie!; 08-04-2012 at 13:47.
  7. silverbolt's Avatar
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    Re: Why i won't be shopping at John Lewis
    Meh i suppose i should be morally outraged RARGH RARGH RARGH

    there we go
    Last edited by silverbolt; 08-04-2012 at 13:50.
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    Re: Why i won't be shopping at John Lewis
    (Original post by DaveSmith99)
    About 7% of the population are practising christians. We aren't a christian, whether you like it or not.
    Evidence for that, please?
    And what would you say is a practising Christian? I haven't been to church since I was a kid, I don't do daily praying sessions. But I'd still say i'm a Christian.

    I'd rather the country was atheist than a majority religion of anything other than Christianity. And lots of atheists I know are absolutely fine with the Christian connotations of our holidays etc.
    If mass immigration and multiculturism hadn't happened, we probably wouldn't be in this mess. All the majority other religions (ie Muslims, Hindus) came from other countries, did they not? So without them, either we'd still be a large Christian majority, or Christianity would die out *naturally*, rather than replaced.
    Anyway.
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    Re: Why i won't be shopping at John Lewis
    I think now I'm going to stop shopping in John Lewis now and shop instead at Peter Jones in Sloane Square or Knight & Lee in Southsea, Portsmouth. ;-)
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    Melodrama alert!

    <3 x
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    Re: Why i won't be shopping at John Lewis
    I don't know anyone my age that shops at John Lewis.

    Anyway, all I can see is a huge giant Chocolate Easter Egg that looks very tasty. I don't know what the big deal is about.

    Also, if you actually read their web page....it says....

    "Easter egg hunt . For light-hearted fun, make sure you take part in our Easter egg hunt (online and in our shops 6-9 April)."

    Now...stop being a loser.
    Last edited by DorianGrayism; 08-04-2012 at 15:07.
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    Re: Why i won't be shopping at John Lewis
    (Original post by DaveSmith99)
    Don't see the problem, they can call is easter, spring weekend, or whatever they like.




    Except we aren't a christian country, and easter is to most people a purely cultural holiday now not a religious one, same with christmas.
    Ah yes, England is not Christian in anyway especially as the Queen is head of the Protestant Church and just over 50% of people being Christian :facepalm:


    (Original post by Llamageddon)
    It's sunday pal.
    No ****. What about the Friday and Monday you take off? :rolleyes:


    (Original post by Philbert)
    How are they denying the existence of the holiday when they are still holding Easter Egg hunts? It is technically a "Spring Holiday Weekend."

    Christians took over the celebration and changed it into a Christian one, as they did with Christmas. Even the word Easter comes from from Eostre/Ostara, a pagan goddess. No one is renaming Easter, it's just marketing, and if they were they would be renaming a pagan celebration. What do you think was the predominant religion in this country before Christianity?

    Looking at the census statistics, England is hardly a Christian country any more.
    Technically?! Technically according to whom? You? Some shop trying to get more money out of everyone? :rofl:

    Christianity has been one of the key parts of this country and todays society. Why you are blabbering on about paganism is beyond me...
  13. jackf1337's Avatar
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    Re: Why i won't be shopping at John Lewis
    Because having an in store Easter egg hunt is clearly disregarding Easter. Get back behind your copy of the Daily Mail. Troll.
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    Re: Why i won't be shopping at John Lewis
    (Original post by Jimbo1234)
    No ****. What about the Friday and Monday you take off? :rolleyes:
    They're public holidays and my contract allows me time off on them. If you're suggesting that I have those days as extra holiday entitlement instead then I would certainly not complain. Better to have a friday+monday off when hotel prices aren't double, eh?
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    Re: Why i won't be shopping at John Lewis
    (Original post by Jimbo1234)
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    Technically?! Technically according to whom? You? Some shop trying to get more money out of everyone? :rofl:

    Christianity has been one of the key parts of this country and todays society. Why you are blabbering on about paganism is beyond me...
    It's a holiday weekend that occurs in springtime :woo: Of course it's recognised a holiday because of the Christian festival, but a lot of people don't celebrate it in a religious context, so I don't see the problem of one shop referring to it as such.

    The roots of a lot of Christian festivals are in pagan traditions. Christmas, the birth of Christ was conveniently changed by Christians to around the time of Yule and other Winter Festivals in an attempt to convert the native pagans.

    Do you think England was always majority Christian? :rofl: Do you not know the history of your own country? http://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religi...ory/uk_1.shtml
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    Re: Why i won't be shopping at John Lewis
    (Original post by Llamageddon)
    They're public holidays and my contract allows me time off on them. If you're suggesting that I have those days as extra holiday entitlement instead then I would certainly not complain. Better to have a friday+monday off when hotel prices aren't double, eh?
    You take the holidays and don't care why you have them :facepalm2: Newsflash, greed is not good.


    (Original post by Philbert)
    It's a holiday weekend that occurs in springtime :woo: Of course it's recognised a holiday because of the Christian festival, but a lot of people don't celebrate it in a religious context, so I don't see the problem of one shop referring to it as such.

    The roots of a lot of Christian festivals are in pagan traditions. Christmas, the birth of Christ was conveniently changed by Christians to around the time of Yule and other Winter Festivals in an attempt to convert the native pagans.

    Do you think England was always majority Christian? :rofl: Do you not know the history of your own country? http://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religi...ory/uk_1.shtml
    A lot of people don't celebrate the religious theme of Easter? When did this occur? You talk as if this has always been the case. Newsflash for you hun, that was not the case 50 years ago.

    Herpaderp. Of course England became Christian when you know, it was invented :rofl: Before then it was pagan, but that was almost 2000 years ago, and for at least 1000 years England has been Christian.
  17. Llamageddon's Avatar
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    Re: Why i won't be shopping at John Lewis
    (Original post by Jimbo1234)
    You take the holidays and don't care why you have them :facepalm2:
    yes.

    Or I work on them and receive double pay. I might also work on them and have time off in lieu.

    It really doesn't matter which long dead or fictional person is responsible for my time off.
  18. Philbert's Avatar
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    Re: Why i won't be shopping at John Lewis
    (Original post by Jimbo1234)

    A lot of people don't celebrate the religious theme of Easter? When did this occur? You talk as if this has always been the case. Newsflash for you hun, that was not the case 50 years ago.

    Herpaderp. Of course England became Christian when you know, it was invented :rofl: Before then it was pagan, but that was almost 2000 years ago, and for at least 1000 years England has been Christian.
    Er.. since fewer people have been attending church and identifying as Christians. As far as I'm aware, it's been happening for a while, at least 50 years

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    2011 Census Polls

    In a poll conducted by YouGov in March 2011 on behalf of the BHA, when asked the census question ‘What is your religion?’, 61% of people in England and Wales ticked a religious box (53.48% Christian and 7.22% other) while 39% ticked ‘No religion’.

    When the same sample was asked the follow-up question ‘Are you religious?’, only 29% of the same people said ‘Yes’ while 65% said ‘No’, meaning over half of those whom the census would count as having a religion said they were not religious.

    Less than half (48%) of those who ticked ‘Christian’ said they believed that Jesus Christ was a real person who died and came back to life and was the son of God.




    Sounds like a lot of people don't really celebrate Easter in a religious context, if so few people believe in the story of Easter.

    I said "but a lot of people don't celebrate it in a religious context" in the present tense. How does that imply that it has always been the case? :curious: You're really clutching at straws now, babes.

    It still stands that Easter is pagan in origin, you're complaining that the meaning of Easter is being changed, yet Christianity did exactly the same thing with Easter.
    Last edited by Philbert; 08-04-2012 at 20:34.
  19. the bear's Avatar
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    Re: Why i won't be shopping at John Lewis
    Wondering what JL intend calling Christmas from now on...
    Winterfest ? Winterval ? Frosty's Special Time ? Santa's Celebration ?... no Santa has Christian overtones...can't allow that
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    Re: Why i won't be shopping at John Lewis
    (Original post by Angry Spartan)
    I care more about what that Easter Egg tastes like than what they decide to call Easter.
    I find it worrying that 4 people have + repped this.

    Vile human being.
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