[py0alb]

(Original post by Facticity)
Look at you bashing Christianity, you're so cool and edgy...

I doubt your skills as a mathematician

Right yeah, it was me who resorted to ad hominems was it, not you?

I bet you can't find a single ad hominem in my posts.

[Facticity]

(Original post by py0alb)
Did you just compare yourself to Jesus in the exact same paragraph you called me arrogant and self-engrossed? That's BRILLIANT.

Its not a matter of 99% vs 1%, that's a ludicrous argument. No "peace loving guy" would EVER utter the words "bring my enemies before me and slay them". Are you even being serious?

I'd like to see that argument used in court: "But 99% of the time I'm not a genocidal maniac, your honour, it was only those couple of occasions I commanded my followers to slaughter countless millions of people".

You do realise that comparisons between Jesus and people are made all the time in Christianity. He was human, he preached he was human and consistently made comparisons between his likeness with us and shared suffering etc. So your point is ironic, if not ignorant. And yes, in terms of undignified people shouting in his face, I think I can say I've taken a small measure from you what he must have taken in great amounts. Comparisons aren't unilateral you know, they are qualified.

Again you're twisting my point, my point was simply that accrding to how he lived and for what he said, it makes sense that we aren't killing people seeing as you seem to think that Christians should be. This is my point. You've chosen to ignore it over your own flavorsome picks of strawmans and self indulged hate.

So yea, I've really wasted enough time on this, more so than I intended. Bye.

[Facticity]

(Original post by py0alb)
Right yeah, it was me who resorted to ad hominems was it, not you?

I bet you can't find a single ad hominem in my posts.

Neither of those are ad homs An ad hom is when you rebuttal a point using an insult. Neither of those were rebuttals to your points. They were just casual statements. All rebuttals are statements, but not all statements are rebuttals. Isn't this (more wordy perhaps but nonetheless) basic logic?

I could, but again, I'd be indulging your own aggressive posting. I really have no desire for prolonged exposure to it.

[The Socktor]

(Original post by ShredMaster)
That woman is a bigot. Nobody likes her.

That doesn't make her wrong.

[The Socktor]

(Original post by tufc)
but I see Christianity as a very strong factor in our country being so developed.

Why?

(Original post by tufc)
It is the best religion,

Seriously though, have you actually studied every single religion and thus had the ability to decide that it is the best?

(Original post by tufc)
and should be encouraged by the government,

Why? and how?

(Original post by tufc)
not attacked by militant secularists.

Oh God, not that Baroness Warsi bull**** again. Amazingly there isn't some huge secularist conspiracy to deny Christians their right to believe what they want. All anybody is doing is refusing to let them pray in council meetings (seems pretty reasonable to me; councillors of other faiths may want to pray to some other god and may not pray in the way Christians do, and also it saves time for actual work amongst them) and apparently not letting them wear religious symbols somewhere (I don't agree with the latter but still, I think it's a bit extreme to use the "militant" pejorative).

[amime]

(Original post by SophiaKeuning)
A lot of people who did good in the world are Christians. Martin Luther King said he did what he did because God told him to.

Now, you might say that those good deeds have nothing to do with faith. But you'd be shooting yourself in the foot as you'll make your own point equally worthless.

Win-win situation, really.

Sorry..? I don't get what you mean...

I've never said people don't do good things because of their religion. When I said "the religious" in my previous post, I wasn't talking about all religious people, obviously. But merely the people that do use religion to manipulate others. Which clearly happens.

[SophiaKeuning]

(Original post by amime)
Sorry..? I don't get what you mean...

I've never said people don't do good things because of their religion. When I said "the religious" in my previous post, I wasn't talking about all religious people, obviously. But merely the people that do use religion to manipulate others. Which clearly happens.

I'm just saying that people go on and on about the bad that religion has done while conveniently forgetting the good. And in recent experience when I've told them about the good, they don't seem to attribute the positive to faith, only he negative.

But I guess 'religion' and 'faith' are too different things, overly religious uptight people very rarely do good.


I don't know man, all I'm saying is I understand Atheism but I don't think it's good to completely brush off faith, (as most do), and people should be more balanced in their views.

[ShredMaster]

(Original post by The Socktor)
That doesn't make her wrong.

Well she is because she is soooo biased. Her arguments are based upon her bias and therefore make her a turd, and her arguments moot.

[The Socktor]

(Original post by The Socktor)

Seriously, what was so bad about this?

[Time Tourist]

(Original post by Super Mario 64)
I doubt Jesus even wanted to die, he was probably just killed anyway

Pilate said he could set him free, but Christ accepted his inevitable fate.

[jmj]

(Original post by Drunk Punx)
He died for his sins, not mine (which is actually partially true; he knew not of my existence, plus that Pirate guy was pissed at him for some reason or another, and therefore made him walk the plank with a cross on his back).

Actually, the Bible teaches that God knows everyone and that Jesus knows everyone (since Jesus is a person in the Trinity of God) and that He knows how many hairs on your head; He knows you better than yourself and loves you. The Bible teaches that Jesus died once for all time to take the punishment of all our rebellion against God- so yes, He did die for your sin, He died for everyone's sin and all we need to do to be saved from the punishment of our rebellion is trust that Jesus paid it in our place and repent (turn away) from our rebellion against God.

Also Pilate wasn't annoyed at Jesus; Pilate actually tried to help Jesus initially, believing him to be innocent, but had to hand Jesus over to be crucified because he feared the crowd would riot and go out of control.

[Drunk Punx]

(Original post by jmj)
Actually, the Bible teaches that God knows everyone and that Jesus knows everyone (since Jesus is a person in the Trinity of God) and that He knows how many hairs on your head; He knows you better than yourself and loves you. The Bible teaches that Jesus died once for all time to take the punishment of all our rebellion against God- so yes, He did die for your sin, He died for everyone's sin and all we need to do to be saved from the punishment of our rebellion is trust that Jesus paid it in our place and repent (turn away) from our rebellion against God.

Also Pilate wasn't annoyed at Jesus; Pilate actually tried to help Jesus initially, believing him to be innocent, but had to hand Jesus over to be crucified because he feared the crowd would riot and go out of control.

...I wasn't being serious
To intentionally spell "Pilate" as "Pirate" would be pretty ignorant, even for an Atheist.

[kenni12]

(Original post by ShredMaster)
That woman is a bigot. Nobody likes her.

I've never came across anything bigoted about her, even if she was, she made points on this video that Christians ignore when giving credit to their 'saviour' and refering to his actions as the main basis of christianity.

[jmj]

(Original post by Drunk Punx)
...I wasn't being serious
To intentionally spell "Pilate" as "Pirate" would be pretty ignorant, even for an Atheist.

I did think you were joking (especially with your reference to walking the plank ) but I wanted to respond to your post anyway