[montgomery]

Why are degrees allowed to contain this? Admittedly I do a proper degree that doesn't contain any of it so have no personal experience, but it essentially seems to be a mechanism for enabling morons who scraped into University to pass their degrees without actually having to do any work, as evidenced by the many examples I've heard of of essentially one or two people in a several person group doing all the work. Though I realise it may help illustrate teamwork skills, I'm not entirely sure a degree awarded to an individul person is the best means of illustrating that.

[StudyHard_LiveBetter]

I hate group work. I have been in a group work recently where I have done 100% of the work, not out of choice but I felt I had too. Fair play they did their bit but no effort was put into it whatsoever, seriously, just copied and pasted out of wiki! ... and I was going to be marked on that ****! So I just told them 'I'd work over it at the weekend and hand it in' and did it all myself and we managed to get 70%.

It's pretty gutting that all that work and they share that grade.

Group Work Shucks!

[The Rusty Spork]

(Original post by StudyHard_LiveBetter)
I hate group work. I have been in a group work recently where I have done 100% of the work, not out of choice but I felt I had too. Fair play they did their bit but no effort was put into it whatsoever, seriously, just copied and pasted out of wiki! ... and I was going to be marked on that sh*t! So I just told them 'I'd work over it at the weekend and hand it in' and did it all myself and we managed to get 70%.

It's pretty gutting that all that work and they share that grade.

Group Work Shucks!

Tell your lecturer, normally (if they aren't idiots) they will allow you to seperate in to your own group and make them a seperate group as long as you can prove they aren't pulling their weight.

Thankfully I had no group work at all in my degree otherwise it would have driven me to insanity fighting against the laziness of students!

[SpicyStrawberry]

(Original post by montgomery)
Why are degrees allowed to contain this? Admittedly I do a proper degree that doesn't contain any of it so have no personal experience, but it essentially seems to be a mechanism for enabling morons who scraped into University to pass their degrees without actually having to do any work, as evidenced by the many examples I've heard of of essentially one or two people in a several person group doing all the work. Though I realise it may help illustrate teamwork skills, I'm not entirely sure a degree awarded to an individul person is the best means of illustrating that.

Too bad, it's a good transferable skill to gain that will greatly benefit you when it comes to applying for work.

I don't like doing group work though tbh, because often it always ends up being me telling people what to do and creating the whole presentation myself, it's frustrating trying to get people to agree on which bits to do and get them to present it well.

We're usually marked as a whole group rather than individually, so if one person puts no effort in the whole group suffers, and I don't think this should be the case when the percentages count towards your final degree classification.

[aeterno]

I hate the fact that group work is supposed to help us work with others once we get a 'real' job. Total BS. If someone didn't pull their weight at work, they'd get the sack and rightly so. Luckily, no group work for me this year otherwise I'd've thrown myself out the window by now

[BigV]

(Original post by aeterno)
I hate the fact that group work is supposed to help us work with others once we get a 'real' job. Total BS. If someone didn't pull their weight at work, they'd get the sack and rightly so. Luckily, no group work for me this year otherwise I'd've thrown myself out the window by now

Yep, I couldn't agree more, even if the university uses peer assessment it is often only for a tiny % of the marks, so there is no real way to penalise those who can't be bothered.

The idea of group projects at university is great in theory, but in reality it often doesn't work and results in one or two people having a nervous break down while everyone else clears off down the pub......

I would much rather be judged on my own efforts as it seems fairer than either being dragged down or benefiting from others work. I also can't help but feel it is just an easy way for lecturers to reduce their workload; marking 9 or 10 group projects has to be easier than reading say 60 essays.

[apple .]

I am having such problems with this right now It's why I'm up at 2am.