[Bonged.]

just thought of some prominent asians in films. The entire cast of most bollywood films.

[Newbie123]

(Original post by Bonged.)
... that does include white people, strictly speaking.

In fact you could even include white people if you really wanted to.

It's less acceptable to mock a black person than it is to mock a white person - white guilt.

But, in this question, I'm more interested in the comparison between blacks and other minorities.

[TheHansa]

Yes. In films and television East Asians are usually extremely ectomorphic, buck-toothed nerds who pronounce their, "L's" as if they are, "R's". South Asians are usually missed out altogether.

[Newbie123]

(Original post by calumsteele1)
why would anyone feel guilty for that? we didnt do it as such we have nothing to be guilty for..?

although i have noticed blacks seem to get away with casual racism far more than white people ... go to a school yard and some little white boy calls a black child a ****** he'll have the book thrown at him but if a black boy says some racist remark to said white boy well tough titty for him.. at least thats whats happened in my experience anyway

That is white guilt in practice.

Look up white guilt if you don't see what I'm saying.

[Newbie123]

(Original post by Bonged.)
just thought of some prominent asians in films. The entire cast of most bollywood films.

All my questions pertain exclusively to Western society & Western perceptions.

Nice thinking, but no.

[Sui-Kinxtar_kitty]

(Original post by Newbie123)
All my questions pertain exclusively to Western society & Western perceptions.

Why worry about the west think??

Lawlz have you seen how some of the asian programmes and films portray the westerners??

Imo fair doos...

[calumsteele1]

(Original post by Newbie123)
That is white guilt in practice.

Look up white guilt if you don't see what I'm saying.

disgraceful.

[No Man]

(Original post by Newbie123)
All my questions pertain exclusively to Western society & Western perceptions.

Nice thinking, but no.

I'm guessing you're Asian, since you seem to care so much about it.

[RainPours]

(Original post by No Man)
I'm guessing you're Asian, since you seem to care so much about it.

It does make sense still!

[Newbie123]

(Original post by No Man)
I'm guessing you're Asian, since you seem to care so much about it.

Swing and a miss.

[Bonged.]

(Original post by Newbie123)
In fact you could even include white people if you really wanted to.

It's less acceptable to mock a black person than it is to mock a white person - white guilt.

But, in this question, I'm more interested in the comparison between blacks and other minorities.

lol. i'm messing with you.

true but that is also the case with other non whites (angry imams?). it's more about being seen as a member of a historically persecuted identity group. i daresay a gay man could make comments on homosexuality that a straight man couldn't, based on his identity groups past persecution. as asians weren't (as visibly) persecuted, they are treated similarly to the white population.

this is silly, obviously.

[No Man]

(Original post by Newbie123)
Swing and a miss.

Well I don't see why you care so much about it than, since you're not Asian, and I'm presuming you don't want to get in the TV/media industry.

And even though I'm making a big stereotype, I'm sure Asian parents would be more interested in their kids becoming very academic than to be trying to win a nomination in the Oscars.

[Nephilim]

You are right, OP. But ask yourself how many movies/tv shows are there where the black characters aren't portrayed as stereotypical "gangstas". The only black actors who get non-stereotypical roles are Denzal Washington and Morgan Freeman (and Will Smith in Pursuit of Happyness), and before them the only one was Sidney Poiter.

In time, there will be more Hollywood movies with non-stereotypical asian leads. These movies may be few and far between, but it will happen eventually.

[Newbie123]

(Original post by No Man)
Well I don't see why you care so much about it than, since you're not Asian, and I'm presuming you don't want to get in the TV/media industry.

Perhaps I care because this is the world that I live in?

Perhaps I care because I love Asians?

Perhaps I pretend I care because I want people to think I'm an intellectual when in reality I'm a moron just repeating what other people've said before?

Perhaps I pretened I care because I don't want to do the work I'm supposed to?

Take your pick. W/e.

[Chloe xxx]

(Original post by Newbie123)
Didn't have room to finish the question:

Is is more acceptable to portray Asians in a derogatory way than it is to do the same with Black people?

E.g. In mainstream films, Asians are very rarely cast in lead roles (there are of course exceptions), and when Asians do appear in films & TV, it's generally in a comical role as the-generic-not-so-attractive-Asian-guy-with-a-thick-accent.

Of course, black people are also sometimes portrayed stereotypically, but nowhere near as often are they portrayed in the same demeaning way.

I attribute all of this to white guilt & to the Civil Rights Movement.

What do you think?

This post contains so much nonsense and incorrect statements I dont know where to start.

Theres always a token black or asian person on adverts and such, aswell as different ethnicities and religions in soaps etc, you are just race baiting.

[Newbie123]

(Original post by Nephilim)
You are right, OP. But ask yourself how many movies/tv shows are there where the black characters aren't portrayed as stereotypical "gangstas". The only black actors who get non-stereotypical roles are Denzal Washington and Morgan Freeman (and Will Smith in Pursuit of Happyness), and before them the only one was Sidney Poiter.

In time, there will be more Hollywood movies with non-stereotypical asian leads. These movies may be few and far between, but it will happen eventually.

There are plenty of African American lead actors who don't get the "ghetto punk" role.

E.g. Don Cheadle, Terrence Howard, Eddie Murphy, Forest Whitaker, Jamie Foxx etc.

[Newbie123]

(Original post by Chloe xxx)
This post contains so much nonsense and incorrect statements I dont know where to start.

Theres always a token black or asian person on adverts and such, aswell as different ethnicities and religions in soaps etc, you are just race baiting.

Name ONE East Asian lead actor in a major film who was cast in a serious role (i.e. not Jackie Chan) that had nothing to do with martial arts.

You can't

[No Man]

(Original post by Newbie123)
Name ONE East Asian lead actor in a major film who was cast in a serious role (i.e. not Jackie Chan) that had nothing to do with martial arts.

You can't

Pretty much everyone in the Gran Terino film apart from Clint Eastwood.

There are even more from various TV series.

[Chloe xxx]

(Original post by Newbie123)
Name ONE East Asian lead actor in a major film who was cast in a serious role (i.e. not Jackie Chan) that had nothing to do with martial arts.

You can't

The original The Ring?

Harold and Kumar get the munchies?

[Nephilim]

(Original post by Newbie123)
There are plenty of African American lead actors who don't get the "ghetto punk" role.

E.g. Don Cheadle, Terrence Howard, Eddie Murphy, Forest Whitaker, Jamie Foxx etc.

Well, there are more than the 3 I mentioned, but I wouldn't say that's plenty. My problem with your examples is that those actors were chosen for the roles because they were black (Don Cheadle in Hotel Rwanda, Terrence Howard in Hustle and Flow, Eddie Murphy in anything, Forrest Whitaker as Idi Amin, Jamie Foxx as Ray Charles). Whereas, the two I listed aren't just cast because they are black.