[natchina]

what about jackie chan?

[Dux_Helvetica]

(Original post by RainPours)
I agree
But is most of the population in this world White?

No but I assumed we were arguing this in the context of Europe and/or the Anglosphere

[Newbie123]

(Original post by Radekal)
Ok, maybe I did go off the point a little. Pardon me.

To answer the question: there is a massive sense of guilt felt by the British and Americans because of slavery, mass genocide etc. of black people in the past; again, Asians are suitable for comical/patronising roles because of their appearance; and finally, there is an element of human nature which makes us wary of strangers, and in some parts of the Western world Asians still seem stranger than blacks because there's not as many of them.



P.S. Thanks for the compliment about my stereotyping: I am quite good at it

You really are incredibly gifted at generalising.

As for the West being more familiar with blacks than Asians, that's wrong. It's 2012, everyone is familiar with everyone (in the West).

So you're saying yes, it's more acceptable to stereotype Asians?

[Newbie123]

(Original post by natchina)
what about jackie chan?

Jackie Chan pioneered most Asian stereotypes.

Short? Check.
Funny accent? Check.
Good at martial arts? Check.

[Clip]

(Original post by Newbie123)
You're so cool and edgy and witty.

You asked someone to name any film where an asian was the star.

I've done that. What's your problem? Except for Obscene Nymphomaniacs 5, all those films were made in the US. So these are Asians headlining in US-made films.

[RainPours]

(Original post by Newbie123)
You really are incredibly gifted at generalising.

As for the West being more familiar with blacks than Asians, that's wrong. It's 2012, everyone is familiar with everyone (in the West).

So you're saying yes, it's more acceptable to stereotype Asians?

I agree with you, he got this whole things wrong.

Your intelligent guy OP

[natchina]

also, white english actors are always portrayed as the evil villains.

there is also a phenomenon in hollywood where black actors are always portrayed as the wise and rational characters-- obviously in an attempt to make whites feel inferior.

hollywood is a bizarre industry as it is dominated by left leaning jews and most of the time it reflects their world view -- which is why you see so many holocaust movies.


before people attack me on that its not even controversial to say that anymore as even jews in the mainstream press boast about it.....


http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/...4676183.column



also, i remember an indian director complaining about jewish domination of hollywood......

[Newbie123]

(Original post by Clip)
You asked someone to name any film where an asian was the star.

I've done that. What's your problem? Except for Obscene Nymphomaniacs 5, all those films were made in the US. So these are Asians headlining in US-made films.

? I don't have a problem.

I just think you're really funny and like so edgy for mentioning porn films *giggle*

You don't need to defend yourself, I'm on your side.

[natchina]

(Original post by Newbie123)
Jackie Chan pioneered most Asian stereotypes.

Short? Check.
Funny accent? Check.
Good at martial arts? Check.

i love jackie chan. his accent is not funny, he just has an asian english accent. is he short? apparently, most actors are really short.

jackie chan made it into the mainstream because of his incredible martial arts skills. you ever seen his early movies?

[philistine]

Go and watch one of the many examples within Asian cinema.

Same phenomenon. Of course, you obviously didn't know that.

[Newbie123]

(Original post by natchina)
also, white english actors are always portrayed as the evil villains.

there is also a phenomenon in hollywood where black actors are always portrayed as the wise and rational characters-- obviously in an attempt to make whites feel inferior.
hollywood is a bizarre industry as it is dominated by left leaning jews and most of the time it reflects their world view -- which is why you see so many holocaust movies.

before people attack me on that its not even controversial to say that anymore as even jews in the mainstream press boast about it.....

Please tell me you're joking.

[Clip]

(Original post by Newbie123)
? I don't have a problem.

I just think you're really funny and like so edgy for mentioning porn films *giggle*

You don't need to defend yourself, I'm on your side.

You're trying to make a point by asking a rhetorical question. I've answered that question - and you seemingly have nothing to say.

You're going on and on about "Asians" not headlining films. I've named some.

It's got nothing to do with being funny or edgy. That's something that you've invented. These are films where "Asians" are the stars.

[natchina]

(Original post by Newbie123)
Please tell me yuo're joking.

no, its logical analysis.

[Newbie123]

(Original post by Clip)
You're trying to make a point by asking a rhetorical question. I've answered that question - and you seemingly have nothing to say.

You're going on and on about "Asians" not headlining films. I've named some.

It's got nothing to do with being funny or edgy. That's something that you've invented. These are films where "Asians" are the stars.

What rhetorical question?

I'm agreeing with you. Your examples were great examples, smart examples. Don't mind me, I'm just really immature, so I find porn funny, hahaha.

The fact you found pornos in which Asians are "headlining" is both cool and funny to me.

You''re a cool guy.

[No Man]

(Original post by Newbie123)
Ok, let's look at it like this.

Who are the most famous Asian actors?

Jackie Chan (obvs), Jet Li? Mr Chow - don't know his real name? Are they typecast - i.e. play similar roles with similar characteristics displaying similar stereotypes? Yes.

Who are the most famous African-American actors?

Denzel Washington, Will Smith, Morgan Freeman etc. Have they played stereotyped roles? Yes. But, have they also played unstereotyped roles? Yes. Therefore they're not typecast.

All of them have had an unstereotyped role before.

[wtfCharlie]

http://yellow-face.com/

[Newbie123]

(Original post by philistine)
Go and watch one of the many examples within Asian cinema.

Same phenomenon. Of course, you obviously didn't know that.

What, are there non-stereotyped black leading actors in Asian cinema too?

Read the question.

[Newbie123]

(Original post by No Man)
All of them have had an unstereotyped role before.

Have they attained a similar level of success/fame/acclaim to Denzel Washington or Morgan Freeman?

That Heroes guy is always stereotyped whenever I see him.

I know John Cho, but apart from that, nada.

[Chloe xxx]

(Original post by Clip)
I'll give you several examples of where "Asians" have taken the lead role:

Maria Ozawa
Obscene Nymphomaniac 5

Roxy Jezel
Sperm Overload 3

London Keyes
L for London

Asia Carrera
Asia is in Too Deep

At work they had a DVD called I want to **** an Indian lol- theres plenty of movie star asians, the OP is just ranting on needlessly now.

[ihatethispart]

(Original post by Newbie123)
Name ONE East Asian lead actor in a major film who was cast in a serious role (i.e. not Jackie Chan) that had nothing to do with martial arts.

You can't

Think about it this way, how many asians do you know who've actually ever considered acting as a career? My school is choke full of asians and not one them them wants to do it for a living. They're going into lots of typical careers such as medicine, maths, natural sciences and some humanities and arts too, but not performing arts. I don't really mind, if a white actor can deliver and his race makes sense in the context of the movie then it's not much of an issue. I couldn't care less about my race not being properly represented in a hollywood movie.