B421 - Provision of Defribrillators Bill
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Re: B421 - Provision of Defribrillators BillI find it re-volt-ing(Original post by TopHat)
You didn't put up any resistance. -
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Re: B421 - Provision of Defribrillators BillEither way, given this a sunk cost, this doesn't matter too much. This isn't a perpetual spend, but a one-off. Ideally, in the long-run, the money could even be removed from hypothecation, allowing the school general responsibility.
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Re: B421 - Provision of Defribrillators BillOne step at a time. If this passes, we can look into further developments.(Original post by JPKC)
Fair enough - maybe consider expansion for the second reading depending on what the general response here is? The Libertarians are always going to struggle with public health bills. And as for the cost to small businesses, if the government subsidised defibrilators that could be considerably lessened - also, small ones may not necessarily need to buy them! -
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Re: B421 - Provision of Defribrillators BillSorry, I guess it's just the way I'm wired.(Original post by Eru Iluvatar)
Can we add a provision to this bill against bad defribrillator jokes... -
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Re: B421 - Provision of Defribrillators BillThere's too much controversy in the political circuit to make that kind of provision.(Original post by Eru Iluvatar)
Can we add a provision to this bill against bad defribrillator jokes... -
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Re: B421 - Provision of Defribrillators BillThis is getting me amped up.(Original post by TopHat)
There's too much controversy in the political circuit to make that kind of provision. -
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Re: B421 - Provision of Defribrillators BillWhat do you mean 'if enough people think it necessary'?(Original post by TopHat)
We wanted to make sure this would pass. We felt that if we tried to impose this everywhere, for example, imposing a cost to small businesses to make sure they had one, the Libertarians would find themselves in need of a defibrillator themselves.
It is compulsory for all schools to have some sort of medical staff, and by changing the process for accreditation the Royal College of Nurses requires, that means all school nurses will be able to use them. If enough people think it necessary, I would gladly submit a Second Reading of this bill with a line about defibrillator training being included in basic first-aid courses.
In fairness, we spelt it right a few times too! :P
I agree completely, which is why the notes explain:
We feel that the majority of children's time is spent in schools, however, so it is a fairly good bet this will meet the majority of those potentialities. In addition, the fact that trained medical staff are required should also minimise the number of occasions where a defibrillator is incorrectly used.
I've just exposed a serious flaw in your legislation that could result in loss of life, and you're only going to change it 'if enough people think it necessary'. -
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Re: B421 - Provision of Defribrillators BillIt's not a serious flaw, though. Schools already have to have medical staff with an accreditation, and we've altered that accreditation to include use in defibrillators. That's almost certainly sufficient. We did consider making it so that every single staff member had to be trained, instead of just the compulsory one they already have, but light of the cost and the fact that every school has to have at least capable staff member on hand anyway, it seemed unnecessary. If you think that it is worth the cost, then by all means, we'll change it, which is what I suggested. However, we think this legislation will do vast amounts of good as it is.
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Re: B421 - Provision of Defribrillators BillI wouldn't support that. Puns are funny.(Original post by Eru Iluvatar)
Can we add a provision to this bill against bad defribrillator jokes...
As for the bill, aye, although I'd be interested how the figures quoted (700 lives in 5 years etc.) were obtained. -
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Re: B421 - Provision of Defribrillators BillHave you read any of the puns? Just really really bad, wish I had the power to stop them.(Original post by Alofleicester)
I wouldn't support that. Puns are funny. -
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Re: B421 - Provision of Defribrillators BillThey're alright. Ohm not sure watt you could have against them.(Original post by Eru Iluvatar)
Have you read any of the puns? Just really really bad, wish I had the power to stop them. -
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Re: B421 - Provision of Defribrillators BillClever little pun there yourself. I agree some of the puns above are so bad it Hertz.(Original post by Eru Iluvatar)
Have you read any of the puns? Just really really bad, wish I had the power to stop them. -
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Re: B421 - Provision of Defribrillators BillOh, ac what you did there.(Original post by Alofleicester)
They're alright. Ohm not sure watt you could have against them. -
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Re: B421 - Provision of Defribrillators Bill(Original post by thunder_chunky)
Clever little pun there yourself. I agree some of the puns above are so bad it Hertz.
Not anoder one...
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Re: B421 - Provision of Defribrillators BillToo far(Original post by Alofleicester)
care to tesla us what you dislike about these jokes?
