[hoonosewot]

(Original post by Besakt)
I know judging from my open day at Bradford pretty much everybody on the course has an aim to get into medicine. The thing is with the one year course at Bradford if I don't manage to transfer I can apply elsewhere as it is only a one year course.

Haven't you then spent £9k on a year of education that's of relatively little benefit to you though? Or do you go into the 2nd year of a degree elsewhere?

[Besakt]

(Original post by hoonosewot)
Yes, medical schools admissions don't discriminate between where you obtained your degree from. So that isn't something you should be factoring into your decision.

Of course, if a university has a far better reputation than another, it's worth considering why they do. They probably have better facilities, better teaching, better opportunities etc so it may still be advantageous to you to go there.

Oh. I never knew that. Just out of curiosity how do you know this?

[cl_steele]

personally id firm KCL and insure St George as for Bradford if you dont like the uni id advise against going there, people who dont like there unis are far more likely to drop out and well spectacular waste of time and money and all that

[Besakt]

(Original post by hoonosewot)
Haven't you then spent £9k on a year of education that's of relatively little benefit to you though? Or do you go into the 2nd year of a degree elsewhere?

I probably wouldn't be able to transfer into the second year elsewhere but I need to ring up student finance and ask how they would view applying to a different course (Medicine elsewhere first year) whilst on the foundation year at Bradford would it be considered a second degree if so I would have to fund myself.

[lucas13]

firm kcl
insurance st georges
especially if you hate the city of bradford

[hoonosewot]

(Original post by Besakt)
Oh. I never knew that. Just out of curiosity how do you know this?

Because I got into medicine through the graduate route and i actually e-mailed a lot of the medical schools and asked them to clarify that they didn't discriminate between unis. They all said they didn't.

[Besakt]

(Original post by hoonosewot)
Because I got into medicine through the graduate route and i actually e-mailed a lot of the medical schools and asked them to clarify that they didn't discriminate between unis. They all said they didn't.

What university did you attend? What degree did you get?

[hoonosewot]

(Original post by Besakt)
What university did you attend? What degree did you get?

Lincoln (it was a lot lower in the tables when i went) and Biomed.

[Hippysnake]

(Original post by Besakt)
I'm a medicine reject.
I've got offers from :
St.George, London Biomedical sci. ABB
KCL, London Biomedical sci. AAB
Bradford Clinical sci. 200 UCAS points

I've never been to the London universities (cost of travelling there just for a look was too much).

St. George gives me an opportunity to transfer to the third year of medicine after the biomed sci. degree and up to 15 people out of 120 manage to do it (assuming you pass the academic criteria and interview). If I do not manage to transfer I always have a good chance with the post grad route as it is a good university.

KCL does not have an opportunity to transfer to medicine but is a good university if I decide to do post grad.

Bradford gives you the opportunity to transfer to the first year of medicine at Leeds (again assuming you pass the academic criteria and interview) and up to 20 out of 120 manage to transfer. But I the problem with Bradford is I hated the university and the city and people seemed really unfriendly.

Chances are I'm going to get 3A's+ and reapply but on the off chance I do not I have no idea what university to firm and use as insurance.

You have to keep in mind that the *majority* of people going for down the Bradford Clinical Sciences route are going to be aiming for that position at Leeds. A 1/6 chance isn't so great when everyone's got their eye on the prize.

It's probably a wiser decision to wait a year and re-apply with 3As or higher.

[Besakt]

(Original post by Hippysnake)
You have to keep in mind that the *majority* of people going for down the Bradford Clinical Sciences route are going to be aiming for that position at Leeds. A 1/6 chance isn't so great when everyone's got their eye on the prize.

It's probably a wiser decision to wait a year and re-apply with 3As or higher.

Yeah that's what I'm thinking. I might firm SGUL and insurance as Bradford.

[IzzyAnne]

(Original post by ak137)
Ah right! My bad

Its okay

Out of interest, which ones are you deciding on to be your firm? And for what course?

It's between Exeter and St Andrews, for English with French

[fallenangel]

(Original post by diurno)
+1 for fallenangel.
Forget Bradford.
Have a look at SGUL and KCL prospectuses and pick the one you fancy most.

Thanks for that man - congrats on your BSMS offer btw

[asif007]

(Original post by Besakt)
I'm a medicine reject.
I've got offers from :
St.George, London Biomedical sci. ABB
KCL, London Biomedical sci. AAB
Bradford Clinical sci. 200 UCAS points

I've never been to the London universities (cost of travelling there just for a look was too much).

St. George gives me an opportunity to transfer to the third year of medicine after the biomed sci. degree and up to 15 people out of 120 manage to do it (assuming you pass the academic criteria and interview). If I do not manage to transfer I always have a good chance with the post grad route as it is a good university.

KCL does not have an opportunity to transfer to medicine but is a good university if I decide to do post grad.

Bradford gives you the opportunity to transfer to the first year of medicine at Leeds (again assuming you pass the academic criteria and interview) and up to 20 out of 120 manage to transfer. But I the problem with Bradford is I hated the university and the city and people seemed really unfriendly.

Chances are I'm going to get 3A's+ and reapply but on the off chance I do not I have no idea what university to firm and use as insurance.

One point I'd like to make is that you've over-estimated the competition for Medicine in Foundation Year Clin Sci. There are up to 120 people studying on the course at once but because Foundation Year also offers the opportunity for students to transfer to Pharmacy/Optometry/Physiotherapy as well, there will never be a situation where everyone on the course applies for Medicine. Plus the fact that some students don't get the grades for Medicine, some change their minds and some decide to defer their applications to Year 1 of Clin Sci. I know that the competition for Medicine is much higher in Year 1 of Clin Sci than in Foundation because there is much more at stake.

Last year (my cohort) there were ~40 people who applied from Foundation Year, for 20 places in Year 1 of Medicine. I expect that to increase to 50/60 this year and, by the time you start, 90 at the very most. Compare that to 15 out of 120 (as you mentioned) at SGUL and you'll see that everything goes in favour of Bradford - shorter course, no commitment to a degree and less competition.

True, Bradford is not the best city to study in - but if you are dedicated enough to getting into Medicine, that won't matter to you. You obviously have the ability and drive to get into Medicine, so I don't think you should concern yourself with post-graduate entry - you will just delay your application by doing a degree you don't fully enjoy and on top of that, the competition for Graduate Entry is immense compared to undergraduate. I don't know anything about the SGUL course, but my first impressions are that it will be much more competitive than Bradford. Most likely they will only choose the highest-achieving students, so that puts even more pressure on you to stay ahead of the competition. I reckon Bradford is a much more well-established and publicised transfer option than SGUL.

I recommend you to choose Bradford - if not your firm then definitely your insurance. Whatever you decide, I wish you the best of luck. Hope it all works out for you.

[Besakt]

(Original post by asif007)
One point I'd like to make is that you've over-estimated the competition for Medicine in Foundation Year Clin Sci. There are up to 120 people studying on the course at once but because Foundation Year also offers the opportunity for students to transfer to Pharmacy/Optometry/Physiotherapy as well, there will never be a situation where everyone on the course applies for Medicine. Plus the fact that some students don't get the grades for Medicine, some change their minds and some decide to defer their applications to Year 1 of Clin Sci. I know that the competition for Medicine is much higher in Year 1 of Clin Sci than in Foundation because there is much more at stake.

Last year (my cohort) there were ~40 people who applied from Foundation Year, for 20 places in Year 1 of Medicine. I expect that to increase to 50/60 this year and, by the time you start, 90 at the very most. Compare that to 15 out of 120 (as you mentioned) at SGUL and you'll see that everything goes in favour of Bradford - shorter course, no commitment to a degree and less competition.

True, Bradford is not the best city to study in - but if you are dedicated enough to getting into Medicine, that won't matter to you. You obviously have the ability and drive to get into Medicine, so I don't think you should concern yourself with post-graduate entry - you will just delay your application by doing a degree you don't fully enjoy and on top of that, the competition for Graduate Entry is immense compared to undergraduate. I don't know anything about the SGUL course, but my first impressions are that it will be much more competitive than Bradford. Most likely they will only choose the highest-achieving students, so that puts even more pressure on you to stay ahead of the competition. I reckon Bradford is a much more well-established and publicised transfer option than SGUL.

I recommend you to choose Bradford - if not your firm then definitely your insurance. Whatever you decide, I wish you the best of luck. Hope it all works out for you.

Thanks, I'll take this into consideration.

[Iqbal007]

(Original post by ak137)
Conclusion: Bradford has a good rep but compared to the other unis OP has applied to, its not the best (especially if OP wants to do Medicine). Fact. Some might like the Bradford surroundings, some may not.

Now, please stop faffing about.

Our bad.........just stating that if he is unable to transfer to Leeds, it would be an issue.

[Besakt]

Had a talk with a few teachers :

They are as confused as me :
Teacher 1 : Says KCL
Teacher 2 : Says SGUL
Teacher 3 : Says SGUL

All of the teachers think I'm selling myself short if I apply to Bradford and don't manage to transfer.