[Chloe xxx]

Giving muslims a fantastic name here, well done to this Imam.

More muslims like him are needed in our secular countries. Congrats to the muslim men for their bravery and dignity, this cannot be something easy to do in the Islamic world.

More muslims like this- less bigoted extremists, please

[Chloe xxx]

(Original post by nm786)
erm... have you ever heard of sects in religions?
e.g. in islam there are sunnis and shia?

I consider both to be Islamic.

This reminds me of Aylar Lie, the persian girl who did porn and was in the Basshunter videos. She cant even return to Iran to see her father because of all the backward muslims calling for her blood for her anti-Islamic actions...even though in her own words she considers herself a purely Norwegian girl.

Great to see those from backward countries overcoming their home areas bigotry

[Reform]

(Original post by chloe xxx)
giving muslims a fantastic name here, well done to this imam.

More muslims like him are needed in our secular countries. Congrats to the muslim men for their bravery and dignity, this cannot be something easy to do in the islamic world.

More muslims like this- less bigoted extremists, please

looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooooooooooool.

[Dmon1Unlimited]

(Original post by nm786)
The Quran forbids any sexual relationship other than in a marriage between a man and a woman.
in the qur'an it clearly says:
We also (sent) Lut: he said to his people:
"Do ye commit lewdness such as no people in creation (ever) committed before you? "For ye practice your lusts on men in preference to women: ye are indeed a people transgressing beyond bounds." - Holy Quran 7:80-81
"Of all the creatures in the world will ye approach males". "And leave those whom Allah has created for you to be your mates? Nay ye are a people transgressing (all limits)!" - Holy Quran 26:165-166

clearly the "imam" lacks knowledge.

or the 'imam' knows that the views in the quran is ancient and has updated his own views... like the rest of the mordern world...

(too bad the french government havent either due to their weird rules) :/

[Reform]

(Original post by Dmon1Unlimited)
or the 'imam' knows that the views in the quran is ancient and has updated his own views... like the rest of the mordern world...

(too bad the french government havent either due to their weird rules) :/

If he believes the 'Quran is ancient' why is he still a Muslim?

If he doesn't acknowledge the Quran is the word of God then surely he can't be Muslim.

If he does, is he arrogant enough to change the words of God knowing fully well what it states?

[I-Am-A-Tripod]

(Original post by silent ninja)
There is interpretation room for how you pray, which foods are allowed etc There is no such room for many other things, gays being one. No gay marriage in Islam I'm afraid. It's categorical.

Actually if you read the quran, you wont find anywhere does it say that it is forbidden for gay muslims to marry.

It is an amusing story though, would make for a good farrelly brothers movie

[Dmon1Unlimited]

(Original post by Reform)
If he believes the 'Quran is ancient' why is he still a Muslim?

If he doesn't acknowledge the Quran is the word of God then surely he can't be Muslim.

If he does, is he arrogant enough to change the words of God knowing fully well what it states?

believing the quran is ancient =/= thinking everything in the quran is wrong...

he may have his own reasons, i.e. god may intend for beliefs to be updated with time or something (who knows)...that doesnt make him not muslim...

saying hes not muslim because his views differ from yours, now that is arrogant...not to mention moronic...

[Psyk]

(Original post by nm786)
erm... have you ever heard of sects in religions?
e.g. in islam there are sunnis and shia?

Yes I know about them, which is why it's funny when people claim there is "one Islam", because clearly Muslims are not all united on which Islam is the "correct" one.

[Gales]

Uhmm, it's not recognised because same-sex marriage isn't legal in France. I'm sure they could get it recognised as a PACS though.

PS (Parti Socialiste) has said that if it wins this presidential election, it'll legalise same-sex marriage. UMP (Union pour un mouvement populaire) is also under pressure to legalise it.

[silent ninja]

(Original post by I-Am-A-Tripod)
Actually if you read the quran, you wont find anywhere does it say that it is forbidden for gay muslims to marry.

It is an amusing story though, would make for a good farrelly brothers movie

Why would gay marriage be mentioned if homosexuality is strictly forbidden?

[harmony_01]

(Original post by Psyk)
So is Iran following the "wrong" Islam? The rulers of Iran consider it to be an Islamic state, so if it's actually not, that must mean they are following the wrong Islam, which contradicts your assertion that there is only one Islam.

Iran's just weird. The government actively compromises on sex-change operations but homosexuality is a no-no.

[Reform]

(Original post by Dmon1Unlimited)
believing the quran is ancient =/= thinking everything in the quran is wrong...

he may have his own reasons, i.e. god may intend for beliefs to be updated with time or something (who knows)...that doesnt make him not muslim...

saying hes not muslim because his views differ from yours, now that is arrogant...not to mention moronic...

To say the Quran is ancient implies it's outdated. Correct?

For Muslims however, the Quran is a message till the end of time.

I'm not saying he isn't Muslim directly although what I am saying is that if he's wedding homosexuals and believes he is right then something is incredibly wrong with his faith (might have left the fold of Islam). This is because he's giving his blessing for them to commit homosexual acts which are extremely forbidden in Islam.

The fact he also introduced them to each other adds to the complication. It's just one big mess tbh.

[I-Am-A-Tripod]

(Original post by silent ninja)
Why would gay marriage be mentioned if homosexuality is strictly forbidden?

I asked this question on tsr before and was told the act of homosexual sex is forbidden in the koran, not being gay, or getting married.

[harmony_01]

(Original post by I-Am-A-Tripod)
I asked this question on tsr before and was told the act of homosexual sex is forbidden in the koran, not being gay, or getting married.

Being an abstinent homosexual is fine in Islam.

[hakking]

(Original post by Reform)
It's just one big mess tbh.

The truest damn thing said on this thread.

[silent ninja]

(Original post by I-Am-A-Tripod)
I asked this question on tsr before and was told the act of homosexual sex is forbidden in the koran, not being gay, or getting married.

Lol

Incest isn't allowed but why can't you marry your mum? That's what you're asking. Beyond ridiculous.

[prog2djent]

(Original post by sugar-n-spice)
an dey say the Muslims are homophobes

massive hypocrites imo

That's right, 1 example means that the vast majority of Imam's, Skeihks, Mullaha's and muslims are like this ...

or maybe not.

[Ayshizzle]

(Original post by silent ninja)
Why would gay marriage be mentioned if homosexuality is strictly forbidden?

Here's your answer:

(Original post by harmony_01)
Being an abstinent homosexual is fine in Islam.

Homosexual acts are forbidden in Islam, not being a homosexual.

[Dmon1Unlimited]

(Original post by Reform)
To say the Quran is ancient implies it's outdated. Correct?

For Muslims however, the Quran is a message till the end of time.

I'm not saying he isn't Muslim directly although what I am saying is that if he's wedding homosexuals and believes he is right then something is incredibly wrong with his faith (might have left the fold of Islam). This is because he's giving his blessing for them to commit homosexual acts which are extremely forbidden in Islam.

The fact he also introduced them to each other adds to the complication. It's just one big mess tbh.

The top line in this context is correct.everything else is not necessarily correct because you have your own views of Islam, and you are implying what you think is fact, and that everything else is wrong. He is different but that doesn't mean he's bad or anything

He may have different views but that does not make him any less of a Muslim than another... You may think your views are correct, you may have friends who also think you are correct, but you can't say he's wrong.... Religion can be quite subjective afterall...

With the example I gave previously, if he thinks it needs to be updated, then he isn't going to judge his actions based on the OLD views is he now? He isn't going to think it should be forbidden. You may think it should be forbidden, but he doesn't

A lot of things have changed since the time the quran has been written... This includes how we treat each other because believe it or not, morals have changed with time. Do you accept that things have changed since the time the quran was written?

For example, youre not allowed to touch kids now... This is because kids don't know any better, and you could potentially screw them up, etc
This is an example of how attitudes have changed since the past

[silent ninja]

(Original post by Ayshizzle)
Here's your answer:



Homosexual acts are forbidden in Islam, not being a homosexual.

It's pretty obvious from the context what I meant. Do you really think 'married' homosexuals aren't doing the act?