Lawless for a week..
Discuss the merits and deficiencies of political theories and philosophical questions.
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Re: Lawless for a week..Just you. No repercussions will also extend to no physical harm from others to you too.(Original post by Hearty_Beast)
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Don't know how many people here are from UK but the 2011 England riots unveiled humanity's true animal nature. In a sense, civilisation and the law is the only thing keeping us from turning into vicious creatures. There may be very few people who are 'saintly' but they'll be waaaaay in the minority. Anyone who says that sometimes we naturally think about others is talking nonsense. If you were given the chance to steal something you really really wanted and could not get any other way, and there was an absolute 100% guarantee that you wouldn't get caught...everyone'd do it. Why wouldn't you? I'm not condoning it, just saying deep down, we're all self-interested, and that's perfectly understandable (note: understandable not acceptable)
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I don't like this idea that 'no one naturally thinks of others'. I derive a lot of satisfaction from doing nice things for other people, and would enjoy helping anyone in need if they asked. And no it's not to win the approval of others. Yes, this is ultimately self-serving, because i'm doing it for the satisfied feeling i get, but to say that no one naturally does selfless things, is very cynical and narrow minded. Maybe this is a majority feeling, but lets not be arrogant and say no one operates in a different way.
Thank you.Last edited by plimsolls; 14-04-2012 at 14:23. -
Re: Lawless for a week..Yeah but this isn't about not getting caught. There would be no laws (for you) so everything you do (shoplifting, stealing, speeding etc,) would be legal. ie: you wouldn't be caught coz you wouldn't be doing anything wrong (technically)(Original post by ElationAndPathways)
Don't know how many people here are from UK but the 2011 England riots unveiled humanity's true animal nature. In a sense, civilisation and the law is the only thing keeping us from turning into vicious creatures. There may be very few people who are 'saintly' but they'll be waaaaay in the minority. Anyone who says that sometimes we naturally think about others is talking nonsense. If you were given the chance to steal something you really really wanted and could not get any other way, and there was an absolute 100% guarantee that you wouldn't get caught...everyone'd do it. Why wouldn't you? I'm not condoning it, just saying deep down, we're all self-interested, and that's perfectly understandable (note: understandable not acceptable)
And you're wrong, people do think about others. Stealing from a big company (it's easy to look at companies as not having human faces) is different from murder, or mugging random people because "you wouldn't get caught".
Most people put their own interests above others, but most people also have morals, and probably view eg. stealing from the poor as wrong. A minorities actions in a riot isn't the basis for human nature.
I personally would try to live life normally/honestly, just without paying unless I want to. eg, I'd pay at the family owned/run newsagents, but I'd walk my trolley straight out of Sainsbury's and share my free "purchases" with whoever wanted/needed them (coz Sainsbury's can afford a little) maybe "rob" a bank.
I would try not to do anything which would damage anyone else personally though...
Anyway, most things aren't helped by going against the law... It has a purpose and it does it well.
If there was no law, most people would live by morals alone, probably a "do as you would have done to" you sort of system. The problem would be the few who don't care (who would probably get banished after time)
Stuff like schooling, health services and police would go down the toilet (due to unstable funding), along with "trust" -
Re: Lawless for a week..That's probably just a normal week for many people on the internet.(Original post by Hood_Man)
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Re: Lawless for a week..(Original post by James82)
That's probably just a normal week for many people on the internet. -
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Kill animal/child abuser, seeing their life fade away as I slowly push them deeper into the vat of acid.
Negged? Wow that's like the only non troll thing i've said on this forum.....sorry for offending you mr or mrs child molester, my deepest apologies.Last edited by slylee; 14-04-2012 at 15:51. -
Re: Lawless for a week..But still, you're doing it for your own self-satisfaction then! Ok, it's selfless in a very loose meaning of the term. But deep down, absolutely nothing anyone does is purely and truly and completely selfless. Everything that everyone does, they want to do - otherwise they wouldn't do it! By definition everything is self-interest...(Original post by plimsolls)
I don't like this idea that 'no one naturally thinks of others'. I derive a lot of satisfaction from doing nice things for other people, and would enjoy helping anyone in need if they asked. And no it's not to win the approval of others. Yes, this is ultimately self-serving, because i'm doing it for the satisfied feeling i get, but to say that no one naturally does selfless things, is very cynical and narrow minded. Maybe this is a majority feeling, but lets not be arrogant and say no one operates in a different way.
Thank you.
But that doesn't mean that people don't help others...People who help others have a reason for it, even if it's not obvious. Otherwise, by definition they wouldn't do it.
