Girls: Pole Dancing?

Okay maybe but it's not stripping. Nobody that I actually know, friends or family, sees it as sexual. At least it's not the way I do it... I think you actually have to be at a really high standard to make proper pole moves into a routine that looks sexy.

I started going cos my friend's friend pulled out and she wanted someone to go with. So I said I'd try it. I didn't pick pole because it's sexual, I tried it and liked it. I prefer it to other forms cos it's a really relaxed, comfortable enviroment (unlike the gym) and everyone works at their own pace (unlike classes like zumba or ballet or anything really).

Well I've never seen a stripper so I'll take your word for it. I think the point is that she intends to take her clothes off for money. What's a 'casual' pole dancer, out of interest?

One that does it neither for competition nor money, just for fun. I don't really see the point of doing it if you're not going to dress up and use it to its full potential and impress your boyfriend etc. You might as well make it sexy. Otherwise why not just do pull-ups etc?

The pole dancing society at my last uni was sponsored by the strip club, and the lessons were done with professional strippers.

Again, I don't see anything wrong with this. If you want to make a bit of cash as a stripper, more power to you. I just don't like these pathetic girls who think there is some huge moral divide between what they do (pole dancing) and what strippers do (also pole dancing, but in marginally skimpier outfits).

Nothing provocative or sexually charged about that whatsoever. I'm sure most girls would be happy putting on a similar performance for their grandmother over Sunday lunch.

The OP is interested in doing pole dancing for fun and fitness. Strippers and professional pole dances get PAID. MONEY is the difference. Not the outfits.

How often do you watch dance/gymnastics performances live during your Sunday lunch?

If you take things out of context of course it's going to seem a bit odd.

Anyway, I don't see why you're in a position to judge women who want to keep fit in private in a way which suits them. It's not really any of your business. If the OP wanted a moral debate on pole dancing as a fitness regime, she would have asked for it. If you want to continue down this road, why not create your own thread in the philosophy section or something?

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Whether there is a moral divide depends on someones opinion on what is wrong and right/socially acceptable, so you can't try to pretend that what you're saying is all fact I'm afraid.

I'd also like to point out that there is a difference between a counter-argument or debate, and shoving your personal opinion down someones throat.

You think that pole dancing will always have the same purpose, and many people on this thread agree. But many also disagree, and that doesn't mean you have to try to convince them that you're right.

YOU need to learn how to debate before judging others and calling them pathetic.

Money is THE difference? So other than getting paid, there is no difference between a casual pole dancer and a stripper?

You said it, not me.

lol pwned

That was your first post? Cracking

My cousin does it a couple of times a week, she says it's probably the best work-out she's ever had. Needless to say, upper body strength is a must

Not my first post ever! First post in the fitness forum. Or is that what you meant? Anyway, I never meant to provoke such a reaction, I didn't think it was that bad a thread

It's not a bad thread at all, its been a very interesting thread in fact.

For you maybe, since you seem to enjoy arguing (even though you're not as good at it as you evidently think you are). For me, however, the number of your ridiculous posts has far outweighed the helpful posts that actually answered my questions.

So yes, for me as the thread-creator and question-asker, it is a bad thread.

If you want helpful advice: don't do pole dancing and keep hold of your dignity instead.

For you maybe, since you seem to enjoy arguing (even though you're not as good at it as you evidently think you are). For me, however, the number of your ridiculous posts has far outweighed the helpful posts that actually answered my questions.

So yes, for me as the thread-creator and question-asker, it is a bad thread.

Alright here's some helpful advice, look on the Ruskin or Cambridge uni websites for a pole dancing soc, and if no luck try talk of the town behind the Grafton centre, they're always advertising for students to try pole dancing, you might get some free lessons off them.

Seriously, wtf is your problem?!