The Edexcel FP2 (22/06/12 - PM) and FP3 (25/06/12 - PM) Revision Thread
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Re: The Edexcel FP2 (22/06/12 - PM) and FP3 (25/06/12 - PM) Revision ThreadI know, but it's worth a try. And that's the fun of it. That it's hard to integrate(Original post by raheem94)
isn't easy to integrate.
Wolfram gives a weird answer to it, hence integrating it is probably beyond our knowledge. -
Re: The Edexcel FP2 (22/06/12 - PM) and FP3 (25/06/12 - PM) Revision ThreadI won't say it is HARD, it is probably beyond our knowledge.(Original post by desijut)
I know, but it's worth a try. And that's the fun of it. That it's hard to integrate
The answer wolfram gives involves erf(x), i don't know what it is. -
Re: The Edexcel FP2 (22/06/12 - PM) and FP3 (25/06/12 - PM) Revision Thread(Original post by raheem94)
...Just though I'd say, you cannot do(Original post by desijut)
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analytically. That is what erf(x) shows; it is called the error function, so if you are trying to do the integral indefinitely don't bother
. If you however put limits on the integral from infinity to negative infinity, then you can evaluate the integral as you'll notice it is very similar to the normal distribution function (this actually was a STEP question).
And as a side note, the integral is known as the Gaussian integral; more information here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaussian_integral. -
Re: The Edexcel FP2 (22/06/12 - PM) and FP3 (25/06/12 - PM) Revision ThreadThanks and +rep for giving the info.(Original post by safmaster)
Just though I'd say, you cannot do
analytically. That is what erf(x) shows; it is called the error function, so if you are trying to do the integral indefinitely don't bother
. If you however put limits on the integral from infinity to negative infinity, then you can evaluate the integral as you'll notice it is very similar to the normal distribution function (this actually was a STEP question).
And as a side note, the integral is known as the Gaussian integral; more information here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaussian_integral.
Though it is still a very complicated integral to solve, may be i should concentrate on FP3 rather than this
Did the STEP question gave any hints to solve this? -
Re: The Edexcel FP2 (22/06/12 - PM) and FP3 (25/06/12 - PM) Revision ThreadWell, it was a STEP II statistics question, which cleverly led you to using the normal distribution tables as it can't be done otherwise. But yeah, I recommend you work on FP3 rather than impossible integrals(Original post by raheem94)
Thanks and +rep for giving the info.
Though it is still a very complicated integral to solve, may be i should concentrate on FP3 rather than this
Did the STEP question gave any hints to solve this?
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Re: The Edexcel FP2 (22/06/12 - PM) and FP3 (25/06/12 - PM) Revision Threadlol people actually tried it! if people want another one try integral of e^x /1+x(Original post by raheem94)
Thanks and +rep for giving the info.
Though it is still a very complicated integral to solve, may be i should concentrate on FP3 rather than this
Did the STEP question gave any hints to solve this?
you can do what safmaster said which is the best way (i got it from a step question as well) but there is another way via series which can be useful; although using the normal distribution table is better.
anyone that is reading this....this isnt coming up in FP3 so chill brah
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Re: The Edexcel FP2 (22/06/12 - PM) and FP3 (25/06/12 - PM) Revision ThreadI did understood that(Original post by Rahul.S)
lol people actually tried it! if people want another one try integral of e^x /1+x
you can do what safmaster said which is the best way (i got it from a step question as well) but there is another way via series which can be useful; although using the normal distribution table is better.
anyone that is reading this....this isnt coming up in FP3 so chill brah
is a very complicated integral, so i just input it on wolfram to see how it does it.
I am not going to try your integral because wolfram's answer is a bit weird to me. -
Re: The Edexcel FP2 (22/06/12 - PM) and FP3 (25/06/12 - PM) Revision Threaddont just wolfram alpha it(Original post by raheem94)
I did understood that
is a very complicated integral, so i just input it on wolfram to see how it does it.
I am not going to try your integral because wolfram's answer is a bit weird to me.
that kills it
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Re: The Edexcel FP2 (22/06/12 - PM) and FP3 (25/06/12 - PM) Revision ThreadJust don't be caught out, if there was an kx infront of it where k is just a constant, you can easily solve it(Original post by raheem94)
Thanks and +rep for giving the info.
Though it is still a very complicated integral to solve, may be i should concentrate on FP3 rather than this
Did the STEP question gave any hints to solve this?
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Re: The Edexcel FP2 (22/06/12 - PM) and FP3 (25/06/12 - PM) Revision ThreadI am not sure what you are saying.(Original post by fruktas)
Just don't be caught out, if there was an kx infront of it where k is just a constant, you can easily solve it
I know how to integrate expressions like
.
These can be solved by differentiating
, do you mean this?
Though integrating
is too much complicated for my
maths knowledge
.
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Re: The Edexcel FP2 (22/06/12 - PM) and FP3 (25/06/12 - PM) Revision ThreadWell yes,(Original post by raheem94)
I am not sure what you are saying.
I know how to integrate expressions like
.
These can be solved by differentiating
, do you mean this?
Though integrating
is too much complicated for my
maths knowledge
.
is exactly the same as
, the only thing is, you will have to adjust your constant
accordingly to make sure it satisfies the integral.
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Re: The Edexcel FP2 (22/06/12 - PM) and FP3 (25/06/12 - PM) Revision ThreadLast edited by Aurum; 28-05-2012 at 00:55.
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Re: The Edexcel FP2 (22/06/12 - PM) and FP3 (25/06/12 - PM) Revision ThreadI will give them a go later and get bk(Original post by Aurum)
Here are three more integrals. All the questions can be done by elementary integration methods, they are hard but doable. For the second question you can use the following result without proof.
where n is a real number.
Q1)
Q2) Given that
Obtain the value of
Q3)
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Re: The Edexcel FP2 (22/06/12 - PM) and FP3 (25/06/12 - PM) Revision Threadstill got tons of question to get through. im finishing all my physics notes today so i can do fp2 and fp3 solidly throughout june(Original post by Dreamweaver)
How is revision going for everyone? Less than a month to go now. FP2 is fine, could sit the exam tomorrow. FP3 needs more work though. Chapter 2 especially
have you done all the papers? im hoping to do the new spec ones and some of the relevant old ones... if i have time i want to get onto solomon too. -
Re: The Edexcel FP2 (22/06/12 - PM) and FP3 (25/06/12 - PM) Revision ThreadWorking on FP3 integration, just solved the question you gave in the OP.(Original post by Dreamweaver)
How is revision going for everyone? Less than a month to go now. FP2 is fine, could sit the exam tomorrow. FP3 needs more work though. Chapter 2 especially
Vectors next! -
Re: The Edexcel FP2 (22/06/12 - PM) and FP3 (25/06/12 - PM) Revision ThreadThere's one already here(Original post by Rahul.S)
is there a m4 thread around?
i cba to do a new thread.....someone else can get the reps
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Re: The Edexcel FP2 (22/06/12 - PM) and FP3 (25/06/12 - PM) Revision ThreadYeah i've done em all. Gonna do some AQA ones before the exam. I'm concentrating on my other subjects atm too(Original post by number23)
still got tons of question to get through. im finishing all my physics notes today so i can do fp2 and fp3 solidly throughout june
have you done all the papers? im hoping to do the new spec ones and some of the relevant old ones... if i have time i want to get onto solomon too.
Vectors?(Original post by raheem94)
Working on FP3 integration, just solved the question you gave in the OP.
Vectors next!
Have fun!
. If you however put limits on the integral from infinity to negative infinity, then you can evaluate the integral as you'll notice it is very similar to the normal distribution function (this actually was a STEP question).
that kills it