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  1. KingHomer's Avatar
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    Not a troll, but likely to offend many.
    http://www.madisonmaclean.com/?secti...ption&jobid=80

    Keep reading...


    Mostly just surprised that they explicitly state, "First degree must be minimum class 2:1 from Oxbridge; class 1 from elsewhere"
    Last edited by KingHomer; 15-04-2012 at 04:37.
  2. cl_steele's Avatar
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    Re: Not a troll, but likely to offend many.
    Why don't they just ask for your blood whilst they're about it?
  3. meow444's Avatar
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    Re: Not a troll, but likely to offend many.
    Jesus how coveted is that job? It must be some kind of joke. I'd like to know the salary...
  4. TheProdigy2k9's Avatar
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    Re: Not a troll, but likely to offend many.
    (Original post by cl_steele)
    Why don't they just ask for your blood whilst they're about it?
    Hahahahah. Gave me a good laugh reading through those
  5. Jagzthebest's Avatar
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    Re: Not a troll, but likely to offend many.
    Well it seems to be a financial organisation and its pretty interesting because as somewhat of a radical socialist I was watching a Noam Chomsky interview where he stated, with the increase of privatisation including universities, as they are increasingly under business influence, candidates with exceptional skills in maths and science instead of being used to help the general economy or population in research are being selected for work highly paid with financial institutions to basically use their work to come up with complex ways of financial manipulation and so on, essentially leading us down the road to another crisis where the rich profit but with ways and deals even more complex than before. Its all criminal of course but dressed in a legal and professional fashion. Hence those ridiculous requirements, reminds me of the George Carlin video.

    "They need people smart enough to do the work but stupid and obedient enough to accept the position".
  6. meow444's Avatar
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    Re: Not a troll, but likely to offend many.
    £1M a year? Really?!

    Pleased to see Newcastle is on there, however stupid the ad is. It seems to be less and less respected these days
  7. Joinedup's Avatar
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    Re: Not a troll, but likely to offend many.
    Chomsky might be talking crap... Semi privatisation in HE isn't forcing people into city jobs at gunpoint.... It's the eyewatering pay on offer compared to other industries.
    Any company that cares more about your a levels than your track record for an experienced hire is probably run by bull artists... Maybe it's just a ploy to get get some cv's in.
  8. Idle's Avatar
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    Re: Not a troll, but likely to offend many.
    I don't understand what is offensive? They have the right to specify whatever requirements they wish, even though I might not necessarily agree with the logic behind it.
  9. poohat's Avatar
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    Re: Not a troll, but likely to offend many.
    That advert is comical, asking about A-levels and undergrad degree (including final year project) when theyre trying to recruit senior quants with a PhD and 1+ years experience. It looks like it was written by an HR person withno idea what the company is looking for.

    (Original post by Sweetcorn_1)
    Don't quantitative analysts earn over £1M a year? Could somewhat justify the extortionately selective requirements.
    Nowhere even remotely close to £1m, even getting 1/2 of that would be very rare unless you were MD level or a superstar trader.
    Last edited by poohat; 15-04-2012 at 06:57.
  10. meow444's Avatar
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    Re: Not a troll, but likely to offend many.
    (Original post by poohat)
    It looks like it was written by an HR person withno idea what the company is looking for.
    Yes, or someone who went to Oxbridge and is consequently a stuck up snob who knows nothing about how real life works, and is looking for an ego boost.
  11. Herr's Avatar
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    Re: Not a troll, but likely to offend many.
    I doubt they are going to recruit anyone.... trust me even Goldman Sachs won't ask for that where a position is of senior level or above...

    Most likely that company who wants such a person already has a person in mind and that person is a foreign national holding a qualification similar to that, they are just throwing it out to ensure they can show the relevant authorities that they had indeed made an effort to hire someone from UK or EU but couldn't so they now want to hire that foreign person.

    Otherwise it is unheard off why an ad like this would be so specific.
  12. zedeneye1's Avatar
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    Re: Not a troll, but likely to offend many.
    (Original post by KingHomer)
    http://www.madisonmaclean.com/?secti...ption&jobid=80

    Keep reading...


    Mostly just surprised that they explicitly state, "First degree must be minimum class 2:1 from Oxbridge; class 1 from elsewhere"
    no offence, but there's no offence...:confused:
  13. RobertWhite's Avatar
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    Re: Not a troll, but likely to offend many.
    I thought you had to prove yourself to get into senior positions? Those requirements seem ridiculous. I can only imagine it's an idiot recruiting or they receive so many CV's they need unreasonable requirements to get just a few.
  14. Intriguing Alias's Avatar
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    (Original post by KingHomer)
    http://www.madisonmaclean.com/?secti...ption&jobid=80

    Keep reading...


    Mostly just surprised that they explicitly state, "First degree must be minimum class 2:1 from Oxbridge; class 1 from elsewhere"
    Don't see what it should offend anyone. This company agrees with the semi-popular opinion that an oxbridge degree is on a different level of difficulty compared to those from other universities. Just because you (or anyone else) might not doesn't mean you should be offended.


    I'm pretty surprised by them asking a levels to be from a specific group. If someone did maths further maths and biology surely a degree in maths from say oxford or cambridge (or most universities for that matter) would overwrite the need for physics a level
    Last edited by Intriguing Alias; 15-04-2012 at 08:38.
  15. shamika's Avatar
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    Re: Not a troll, but likely to offend many.
    (Original post by poohat)
    That advert is comical, asking about A-levels and undergrad degree (including final year project) when theyre trying to recruit senior quants with a PhD and 1+ years experience. It looks like it was written by an HR person withno idea what the company is looking for.
    This. Just sent to all of my IB friends who should get a good laugh out that. What a joke...

    Note: MM are a recruitment firm, not a bank (I'd never heard of them until just now). It may be that they're just reflecting the requirements of whatever bank/fund they're advertising for. Sounds like a lovely bunch of people to work with
    Last edited by shamika; 15-04-2012 at 08:39.
  16. milienhaus's Avatar
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    Re: Not a troll, but likely to offend many.
    I suspect Herr is right - they have someone they want but are required to advertise for some reason.
  17. Iron Lady's Avatar
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    Re: Not a troll, but likely to offend many.
    What's wrong with that?

    Answer: nothing.

    Just stop complaining and get on with your A-levels/degree.
  18. tufc's Avatar
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    Re: Not a troll, but likely to offend many.
    (Original post by Jagzthebest)
    Well it seems to be a financial organisation and its pretty interesting because as somewhat of a radical socialist I was watching a Noam Chomsky interview where he stated, with the increase of privatisation including universities, as they are increasingly under business influence, candidates with exceptional skills in maths and science instead of being used to help the general economy or population in research are being selected for work highly paid with financial institutions to basically use their work to come up with complex ways of financial manipulation and so on, essentially leading us down the road to another crisis where the rich profit but with ways and deals even more complex than before. Its all criminal of course but dressed in a legal and professional fashion. Hence those ridiculous requirements, reminds me of the George Carlin video.

    "They need people smart enough to do the work but stupid and obedient enough to accept the position".
    They're free to work for whomever they want. You want a system where people can't do what's best for themselves. Bleurgh.
  19. non's Avatar
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    Re: Not a troll, but likely to offend many.
    What...? You have to have 3 a levels out of fm, Maths, physics and chemistry. Wow and they are recruiting for a person with a phd in Maths or physics. What's wrong with a phd in engineering, finance, financial engineering or computer science? Why only Maths and physics?
    Last edited by non; 15-04-2012 at 09:08.
  20. TitanicTeutonicPhil's Avatar
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    Re: Not a troll, but likely to offend many.
    (Original post by hassi94)
    Don't see what it should offend anyone. This company agrees with the semi-popular opinion that an oxbridge degree is on a different level of difficulty compared to those from other universities.
    Doesn't have much to do with the topic of the thread but I wonder why everyone thinks that degrees from Oxbridge
    are 'more difficult' than degrees at other universities - because they are not. You simply get a better education.
    Not because they make their exams ridiculously difficult. But because they teach you better.

    Employers have no interest in hiring graduates who passed a 'difficult' degree - because it might not prepare them in
    an ideal way for the job world. That can only be achieved by outstanding faculty, low student/faculty ratio, etc.
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