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Re: Not a troll, but likely to offend many."**Also like to see school and university academic prizes**"
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You have a PHD in maths...but you didn't win the table manners award once at school?
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Re: Not a troll, but likely to offend many.Don't be jel.(Original post by RocknRap)
You're a fresher. So no, your credentials don't line up quite nicely with the job spec. -
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Re: Not a troll, but likely to offend many.^ Watchout your comments bro(Original post by i_hate_teeth)
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Re: Not a troll, but likely to offend many.Well generally you can't screw a year and then trade up to a more selective uni... But suddenly realising you're not good at maths anymore isn't the only reason for underperforming when you get up to uni...(Original post by hassi94)
I'm not saying they're amazing at mathematics, but at that stage that is probably the best indicator of ability (and cambridge stats insist it is one of the most accurate indicators - far better A-levels/UMS and GCSEs). But it's fairly well known that Cambridge have one of the hardest maths degrees, especially Part III (4th year) - which attracts top students from all over the world, so not doing well is not just indicative of laziness - I think that's a pretty outrageous claim.
I'd also like to hear how someone did bad on their degrees at poor universities and then get accepted into Oxbridge? I don't think they do work the other way round. -
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Re: Not a troll, but likely to offend many.You had a table manners award at your school?(Original post by there's too much love)
"**Also like to see school and university academic prizes**"
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Re: Not a troll, but likely to offend many.Call me ignorant, but I have my reasons for thinking this. Firstly, my dad went to Oxford and it turned him into a stuck up snob. He came from a working class background, but he developed a posh accent and a massive ego after he went there. He was determined for me to go to Oxbridge too, since every other uni wasn't good enough apparently. He even went far enough to take me to Oxford to try and convince me I should go there, and arranged a meeting for me with the admissions tutor of Balliol. While I did appreciate his efforts, I could really see from meeting the staff and the students it wasn't the right place for me.(Original post by Junaid96)
Pretty ignorant generalisation going on there.
Also, all my friends who went to an Oxbridge uni have turned into stuck up snobs. One of them has taken up shooting and wears tweed flat caps now.
I'm sure there are normal, grounded people who go to Oxbridge and come out the other side without letting the place change who they are, but then I think they might be in the minority from what I've seen. I mean my dissertation supervisor went to Oxford, and she is lovely and very humble about her amazing intellect and career. But the majority of the students at Oxford and Cambridge (especially if you include the internationals) are public school kids, so they are more likely to be stuck up snobs, don't you think?
I think it's a bit naive to assume Oxbridge doesn't foster a sense of superiority and cliquishness in their students - old boys clubs and all that, and these people are the kind of people who write job ads like this one.Last edited by meow444; 15-04-2012 at 16:49. -
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Re: Not a troll, but likely to offend many.Exactly.(Original post by RocknRap)
Wrong. Plenty of (less competitive) graduate schemes at large firms have a 2.2 minimum requirement instead of a 2.1 requirement. Firms with 2.1 requirements will also take on 2.2's if there are mitigating circumstances.
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Re: Not a troll, but likely to offend many.apparently according to this site http://www.payscale.com/research/UK/...Analyst/Salary they earn between £35-145k PA and most of the others advertise around $70-150k PA(Original post by meow444)
Jesus how coveted is that job? It must be some kind of joke. I'd like to know the salary...
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Re: Not a troll, but likely to offend many.I wouldn't say that. JLR recieved over 13,000 applications for their graduate schemes and a few of my engineering friends from Warwick and UCL never made it past the first round. Hardly uncompetitive. They just realise, that the difference between a 2.1 and a 2.2 isn't the difference between an employable graduate and an unemployable one.(Original post by yothi5)
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Re: Not a troll, but likely to offend many.Wow. Nice. I bet it's mind-numbingly boring work though, especially if you don't enjoy maths.(Original post by cl_steele)
apparently according to this site http://www.payscale.com/research/UK/...Analyst/Salary they earn between £35-145k PA and most of the others advertise around $70-150k PA
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Re: Not a troll, but likely to offend many.Yes, because people spend 7 years (MMath + PhD) doing something they don't enjoy and do well in it; both requirements for the roles you just quoted.(Original post by meow444)
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Re: Not a troll, but likely to offend many.Obviously I can't speak about the graduates you know, but I have to say this couldn't be further from the truth in my experiences. I know lots of Oxford graduates and I can genuinely say that none of them are at all 'stuck up snobs'. In fact, most couldn't be further from this. I believe either you've been very unlucky at meeting a couple of stuck up graduates or you have this preconception that Oxford graduates will be stuck-up, so you simply assume that all Oxford graduates are stuck-up. Either way, I can assure that it is not the case.(Original post by meow444)
Call me ignorant, but I have my reasons for thinking this. Firstly, my dad went to Oxford and it turned him into a stuck up snob. He came from a working class background, but he developed a posh accent and a massive ego after he went there. He was determined for me to go to Oxbridge too, since every other uni wasn't good enough apparently. He even went far enough to take me to Oxford to try and convince me I should go there, and arranged a meeting for me with the admissions tutor of Balliol. While I did appreciate his efforts, I could really see from meeting the staff and the students it wasn't the right place for me.
Also, all my friends who went to an Oxbridge uni have turned into stuck up snobs. One of them has taken up shooting and wears tweed flat caps now.
I'm sure there are normal, grounded people who go to Oxbridge and come out the other side without letting the place change who they are, but then I think they might be in the minority from what I've seen. I mean my dissertation supervisor went to Oxford, and she is lovely and very humble about her amazing intellect and career. But the majority of the students at Oxford and Cambridge (especially if you include the internationals) are public school kids, so they are more likely to be stuck up snobs, don't you think?
I think it's a bit naive to assume Oxbridge doesn't foster a sense of superiority and cliquishness in their students - old boys clubs and all that, and these people are the kind of people who write job ads like this one.Last edited by SHELDON123; 15-04-2012 at 20:32. -
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Re: Not a troll, but likely to offend many.I know chicks @ Oxford that were privately educated at top London schools that would back up what that guy said, but to be honest that's neither here nor there. I love stuck up/posh girls especially the ones that are into ballet/gymnastics.
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Re: Not a troll, but likely to offend many.i_hate_teeth - I'm a girl
Sheldon - I know more than just 'a couple' of Oxbridge grads/students quite well and I have met plenty fleetingly. And like I said, I did visit Oxford and meet quite a few students and a few staff members while I was there. So I did not form this opinion from just one or two bad encounters. I think you would find there are quite a few people, Oxbridge students included, who actually agree with me. I mean just look at the people leading our country. The vast majority of them got there because they went to Eton or some other posh school where they were groomed to go to a top uni, then they studied at Oxbridge, and then once they graduated they used their contacts - other posh snobs from the same background - to get to where they are now. You're going to tell me Cameron is not a posh snob?
I'm not saying *everyone* at Oxbridge is like this at all, it's more of a general observation which I think is relevant to the thread.Last edited by meow444; 15-04-2012 at 21:27. -
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Re: Not a troll, but likely to offend many.No, I'm not saying that David Cameron isn't a "posh snob". In fact, I agree with you on that one. However, he (and the other politicians I believe you are talking about) was notoriously a part of the Bullingdon club, a very small group of people in Oxford that certainly are posh snobs. However, they are an incredibly small minority at Oxford and I firmly believe they are very very different to your average Oxford graduate. As I've said before, I believe you already perceive all Oxford graduates as posh snobs before you meet them and so don't give them a chance. The vast vast majority of Oxford graduates that I know are not like this at all. In my opinion, it is a bull**** stereotype that simply isn't true and it harms the image of the university.(Original post by meow444)
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Sheldon - I know more than just 'a couple' of Oxbridge grads/students quite well and I have met plenty fleetingly. And like I said, I did visit Oxford and meet quite a few students and a few staff members while I was there. So I did not form this opinion from just one or two bad encounters. I think you would find there are quite a few people, Oxbridge students included, who actually agree with me. I mean just look at the people leading our country. The vast majority of them got there because they went to Eton or some other posh school where they were groomed to go to a top uni, then they studied at Oxbridge, and then once they graduated they used their contacts - other posh snobs from the same background - to get to where they are now. You're going to tell me Cameron is not a posh snob?
I'm not saying *everyone* at Oxbridge is like this at all, it's more of a general observation which I think is relevant to the thread. -
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Re: Not a troll, but likely to offend many.A win in a sport is a win regardless of whether it's the Tour de France or a local countryside bike ride? Do you realise how much competition varies between universities?(Original post by JoPat94)
A first in maths is a first in maths regardless of where you get it, *sigh*
Get out of your deluded bubble and stop trying to make yourself feel better...
