[Hippokrates]

I know UEA students do this but I was wondering if any other medical schools do it as it sounds really interesting? Also what do people think of it?

[Blorcyn]

Can you say a bit more about it, because if it really is as simple as learning from the allied health professionals (other than doctors) then yes, I imagine most.

[Hippokrates]

(Original post by Blorcyn)
Can you say a bit more about it, because if it really is as simple as learning from the allied health professionals (other than doctors) then yes, I imagine most.

I think it's more like they learn with students doing nursing and midwifery, I'm not really sure that's why I'm asking.

[Democracy]

Warwick do.

[Davidragon]

This probably occurs the most greatly at St. Georges in London, which trains almost exclusively healthcare professionals.

It occurs at Nottingham too (Pharmacy students said they had some lectures alongside medics there).

I'd think many universities that run multiple healthcare related courses might have an element in it incorporated. Even between universities it can happen to an extent, Bristol medics spend some time (a week or so I think) learning with Pharmacy students from Bath.

[sd91]

southampton medics do this. we learn with quite a few others - nurses, physiotherapists, radiographers, social workers and pharmacy students from portsmouth collaborate with us too. i find it pointless tbh and a complete waste of time.

[Hippokrates]

(Original post by sd91)
southampton medics do this. we learn with quite a few others - nurses, physiotherapists, radiographers, social workers and pharmacy students from portsmouth collaborate with us too. i find it pointless tbh and a complete waste of time.

What do you actually do?

[TooSexyForMyStethoscope]

(Original post by Hippokrates)
I know UEA students do this but I was wondering if any other medical schools do it as it sounds really interesting? Also what do people think of it?

Aberdeen do. Well Aberdeen joint with RGU as they offer nursing, physio, OT etc The concept goes down well with the GMC and the NMC.

It is a good idea, I will admit that I had no clear idea what an occupational therapist did before the first session. The sessions themselves I find woefully awful but this may just be the way Aberdeen do it Both my sessions were mostly tacky team building exercises mixed with the odd clinical scenario. This has led to many students, from all disciplines, finding themselves diplomatically ill on the day of the sessions I hope they will improve in later years.

[Thracia]

(Original post by Hippokrates)
What do you actually do?

Hello, I've just finished the first IPL module at Southampton. Most of it was working on a small project/presentation. Do note, Southampton seem to be phasing out IPL.

[sd91]

(Original post by Thracia)
Hello, I've just finished the first IPL module at Southampton. Most of it was working on a small project/presentation. Do note, Southampton seem to be phasing out IPL.

we no longer have to do it in year 5 now and apparently by 2013/14 there will be no ipl on bm5/4 at all. the ipl in 2nd year is a little better than the one in 1st year because it is placement based. i'm just glad that the med school are finally listening to us.

the pharmacists/social workers/podiatrists have found it even more irrelevant because of the types of clinical scenarios. i agree that the concept is good but in practice it just hasn't worked for me personally and many many other students i know across the healthcare umbrella.

[Davidragon]

(Original post by sd91)
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I'm just curious, why exactly has it been so bad? Are the scenarios just to simplistic/ don't reflect how the professions would interact in reality?

[gozatron]

Nothing of the sort at Birmingham.

[Thracia]

(Original post by Davidragon)
I'm just curious, why exactly has it been so bad? Are the scenarios just to simplistic/ don't reflect how the professions would interact in reality?

One issue I've found, with the first module, is that it feels awfully artificial. It has good intentions but it's like playing pretend in a way. Working with people on other courses is nice, but it doesn't really feel that different from regular group work.

[TooSexyForMyStethoscope]

(Original post by Davidragon)
I'm just curious, why exactly has it been so bad? Are the scenarios just to simplistic/ don't reflect how the professions would interact in reality?

I always get the impression that universities are doing it for points as opposed to actually believing in it. Everything about the sessions feels so gimicky.

[coconut2456]

KCL does this too. I didn't find it that useful tbh, fair enough it was nice to get to know some people doing other courses like nursing/pharmacy/etc. but would it really help me function better in a multidisciplinary team after I graduate? I doubt it, most of the time we were talking about completely unrelated things like the pepsi challenge.

(Original post by TooSexyForMyStethoscope)
I always get the impression that universities are doing it for points as opposed to actually believing in it. Everything about the sessions feels so gimicky.

Exactly how I felt. Worst bit was having to write an essay at the end and using different studies to back up our points, the level of exaggeration was worse than when we were writing our personal statements!