AQA AS Physics A Unit 2 25/05/12 - PHYA2

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  • View Poll Results: Difficulty of exam (120 UMS boundaries)
    Very easy (68-70 for 120 UMS)
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  1. Kavzaz's Avatar
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    Re: AQA AS Physics A Unit 2 25/05/12 - PHYA2
    What do you guys will think be the grade boundaries for this exam? Roughly obviously?
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    Re: AQA AS Physics A Unit 2 25/05/12 - PHYA2
    (Original post by Kavzaz)
    What do you guys will think be the grade boundaries for this exam? Roughly obviously?
    Check out the poll - it's right above you
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    Re: AQA AS Physics A Unit 2 25/05/12 - PHYA2
    Hoping that TSR doesn't represent the entire UK AS-taking population and the voters are all geniuses and the grade boundaries will be much lower......
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    Re: AQA AS Physics A Unit 2 25/05/12 - PHYA2
    (Original post by iAre Teh Lejend)
    Very well said, I think AQA need to rethink having modules marked internally, or even sat in class rooms. For my ISA, students were literally sitting right next to each other, on the same bench, centimeters away...
    It may ruin my Physics grade, all because we're doing the ISA correctly. My result is probably a true reflection of my grade, I've got about the same %'s, just a little more in my modules, but both my ISA's are E/D borderline yet are 60 and 66%, it's totally unfair.
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    Re: AQA AS Physics A Unit 2 25/05/12 - PHYA2
    (Original post by Seb Hudson)
    Here is a mark scheme for the exam that my friend sent me! I'll be honest and take no credit for this but still, enjoy
    PHYA2 May 2012.pdf

    Does anyone else disagree with the answers to question 6(a)(ii) on this unofficial mark scheme? It is surely 135 and 315 (or 45) out of phase?
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    Re: AQA AS Physics A Unit 2 25/05/12 - PHYA2
    (Original post by kingm)
    PHYA2 May 2012.pdf

    Does anyone else disagree with the answers to question 6(a)(ii) on this unofficial mark scheme? It is surely 135 and 315 (or 45) out of phase?
    Sorry, but the wave is a stationary wave therefore the equation, Phase difference = 2*pi*d/lambda does not apply, instead you should calculate it using the number of nodes between the two points and multiply that by pi.
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    Re: AQA AS Physics A Unit 2 25/05/12 - PHYA2
    (Original post by SrijanParmeshwar)
    Sorry, but the wave is a stationary wave therefore the equation, Phase difference = 2*pi*d/lambda does not apply, instead you should calculate it using the number of nodes between the two points and multiply that by pi.
    the question only asked to STATE the phase RELATIONSHIP not CALCULATE the phase DIFFERENCE..the answer to both were "out of phase" and you obtained that answer from calculating the number of nodes in between the two points (m(Pi) ) like you said...no need for an actual number.
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    Surprised that the phase relationship debate is still going. I think they're going to find a whole range of answers on that one, so maybe the mark scheme will just have to be more lenient.


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    Re: AQA AS Physics A Unit 2 25/05/12 - PHYA2
    (Original post by Amirrryy)
    the question only asked to STATE the phase RELATIONSHIP not CALCULATE the phase DIFFERENCE..the answer to both were "out of phase" and you obtained that answer from calculating the number of nodes in between the two points (m(Pi) ) like you said...no need for an actual number.
    I agree that they are both out of phase and that if you failed to put that down then you're unlikely to get the marks but if you WERE to calculate the phase difference then it would be 135 and 315 no?
    Last edited by kingm; 01-06-2012 at 10:42.
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    Re: AQA AS Physics A Unit 2 25/05/12 - PHYA2
    (Original post by kingm)
    I agree that they are both out of phase and that if you failed to put that down then you're unlikely to get the marks but if you WERE to calculate the phase difference then it would be 135 and 315 no?
    yep thats exactly the numbers i put down
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    Re: AQA AS Physics A Unit 2 25/05/12 - PHYA2
    (Original post by Amirrryy)
    the question only asked to STATE the phase RELATIONSHIP not CALCULATE the phase DIFFERENCE..the answer to both were "out of phase" and you obtained that answer from calculating the number of nodes in between the two points (m(Pi) ) like you said...no need for an actual number.
    Yes, I agree with the fact that you should state the relationship (however I don't agree with your answers), my point was that the wave was a stationary wave and I think that both numerical and non-numerical answers will be accepted.

    (Original post by kingm)
    I agree that they are both out of phase and that if you failed to put that down then you're unlikely to get the marks but if you WERE to calculate the phase difference then it would be 135 and 315 no?
    No, this was a stationary wave you can only have multiples of pi (in radians) or zero as the phase difference.
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    Re: AQA AS Physics A Unit 2 25/05/12 - PHYA2
    Expected value of 120 UMS grade boundary from poll so far is 62.8.
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    haha

    This was posted from The Student Room's Android App on my U8815
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    Re: AQA AS Physics A Unit 2 25/05/12 - PHYA2
    (Original post by silentlife)
    Expected value of 120 UMS grade boundary from poll so far is 62.8.
    95 out of thousands of people voted so its not really reliable...
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    Re: AQA AS Physics A Unit 2 25/05/12 - PHYA2
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    95 out of thousands of people voted so its not really reliable...
    Yeah as well as that, if you take into account that most people are typically conservative about how they found the exam (like, you would more often find people saying its hard, than saying its easy, even if the exam was easy), I think the likely mark for full UMS, judging from the poll, should be 67-68. I think people are probably more reluctant to say an exam was piss easy because you're never going to be sure, whereas if you did badly, you'd know to a higher degree of certainty because of questions you left out, now obviously theres no other mark you could get but zero if you leave out a question.
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    Re: AQA AS Physics A Unit 2 25/05/12 - PHYA2
    (Original post by internet tough guy)
    Yeah as well as that, if you take into account that most people are typically conservative about how they found the exam (like, you would more often find people saying its hard, than saying its easy, even if the exam was easy), I think the likely mark for full UMS, judging from the poll, should be 67-68. I think people are probably more reluctant to say an exam was piss easy because you're never going to be sure, whereas if you did badly, you'd know to a higher degree of certainty because of questions you left out, now obviously theres no other mark you could get but zero if you leave out a question.
    ^True, however I'm guessing that the majority of people who use tsr will be A/B candidates and many people who did poorly will not want to discuss how they did. Therefore the majority of people looking for a solution will be confident in their performance and will be more likely to vote that the exam was easy.

    Personally, I think the exam was easier than some previous papers and harder than others, because there was a lot that could trip you up easily. The series/parallel springs question (9 Marks), The Phase Relationship Question (2 Marks), The wavelength of the Compression wave Question (1 Mark) etc to name a few. However some of the exam was much easier - The Optics Questions and 6 marker were straight forward, along with the vectors and moments Questions.

    Lets just hope AQA are feeling generous,

    My gut feeling says 120 UMS will be ~ 62/70
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    Re: AQA AS Physics A Unit 2 25/05/12 - PHYA2
    (Original post by internet tough guy)
    Yeah as well as that, if you take into account that most people are typically conservative about how they found the exam (like, you would more often find people saying its hard, than saying its easy, even if the exam was easy), I think the likely mark for full UMS, judging from the poll, should be 67-68. I think people are probably more reluctant to say an exam was piss easy because you're never going to be sure, whereas if you did badly, you'd know to a higher degree of certainty because of questions you left out, now obviously theres no other mark you could get but zero if you leave out a question.
    (Original post by Future Engineer)
    ^True, however I'm guessing that the majority of people who use tsr will be A/B candidates and many people who did poorly will not want to discuss how they did. Therefore the majority of people looking for a solution will be confident in their performance and will be more likely to vote that the exam was easy.

    Personally, I think the exam was easier than some previous papers and harder than others, because there was a lot that could trip you up easily. The series/parallel springs question (9 Marks), The Phase Relationship Question (2 Marks), The wavelength of the Compression wave Question (1 Mark) etc to name a few. However some of the exam was much easier - The Optics Questions and 6 marker were straight forward, along with the vectors and moments Questions.

    Lets just hope AQA are feeling generous,

    My gut feeling says 120 UMS will be ~ 62/70
    There are arguments for either way (the poll is an overestimate or underestimate). The poll is the best guess possible that we have...

    Edit: have any of you heard of the wisdom of the crowd...
    Last edited by silentlife; 12-06-2012 at 21:29.
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    Re: AQA AS Physics A Unit 2 25/05/12 - PHYA2
    (Original post by silentlife)
    There are arguments for either way (the poll is an overestimate or underestimate). The poll is the best guess possible that we have...

    Edit: have any of you heard of the wisdom of the crowd...
    hey one question, what do you think 52-53 would be in UMS this time? also do u think it was easier than jan? thanks
    Last edited by Amirrryy; 18-06-2012 at 19:34.
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    (Original post by Amirrryy)
    hey one question, what do you think 52-53 would be in UMS this time? also do u think it was easier than jan? thanks
    I would put that between 102 and 110, but even that is a very rough estimate. (I could well probably be wrong.) The trouble with this exams is that the papers seem to be more "strange" than "hard" - it all depends on how the rest of the country found the exam and preformed. The region of marks where you put yourself is also one of the most sensitive regions on the UMS scale for this exam - a small increase or decrease will result in a large change in UMS mark.

    I would rank this exam ever so slightly easier than the Jan exam, but I'm hoping that other people found it harder.
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    Re: AQA AS Physics A Unit 2 25/05/12 - PHYA2
    (Original post by silentlife)
    I would put that between 102 and 110, but even that is a very rough estimate. (I could well probably be wrong.) The trouble with this exams is that the papers seem to be more "strange" than "hard" - it all depends on how the rest of the country found the exam and preformed. The region of marks where you put yourself is also one of the most sensitive regions on the UMS scale for this exam - a small increase or decrease will result in a large change in UMS mark.

    I would rank this exam ever so slightly easier than the Jan exam, but I'm hoping that other people found it harder.
    thanks!
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