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  1. loyalty is royalty's Avatar
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    BPP's Law Reputation?
    Whats BPP's Law Reputation like compared to other universities in London?
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    Re: BPP's Law Reputation?
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    Whats BPP's Law Reputation like compared to other universities in London?
    Sexlicious.

    At the college of law though- every one is a toff. So don't go there.
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    for LLB? LPC? GDL?
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    The LLB course is new and as such, Chambers and law firms will almost certainly not think of it particularly highly until it gets a reputation for turning out quality graduates. That is not to say that the course is bad or that it will be impossible to get a good job at the end of it, but looking at it realistically, if BPP is viewed alongside a mid-rank red-brick university then it becomes even more important to get a first, and tick all the other boxes that employers are looking for than if you went to, say, a Russell Group university.

    If you have any specific questions about the LLB I will be happy to answer them from the point of view of a mature student studying part-time there, if you were talking about the GDL, LPC, BPTC then just ignore me as I have no idea about those yet!
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    How old are the majority of students there doing a full time LLB?

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    The LLB course is new and as such, Chambers and law firms will almost certainly not think of it particularly highly until it gets a reputation for turning out quality graduates. That is not to say that the course is bad or that it will be impossible to get a good job at the end of it, but looking at it realistically, if BPP is viewed alongside a mid-rank red-brick university then it becomes even more important to get a first, and tick all the other boxes that employers are looking for than if you went to, say, a Russell Group university.

    If you have any specific questions about the LLB I will be happy to answer them from the point of view of a mature student studying part-time there, if you were talking about the GDL, LPC, BPTC then just ignore me as I have no idea about those yet!
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    How old are the majority of students there doing a full time LLB?
    Not sure I'm afraid, I'm studying part-time in the evening and the majority of people in my tutorials/seminars are doing the same (although occasionally get a full-time student who couldn't make the day time tutorials or seminars).

    I don't see any obvious reason why the majority of full time students shouldn't be the same age as anywhere else, 18-21, but I can't vouch for it.
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    Not sure I'm afraid, I'm studying part-time in the evening and the majority of people in my tutorials/seminars are doing the same (although occasionally get a full-time student who couldn't make the day time tutorials or seminars).

    I don't see any obvious reason why the majority of full time students shouldn't be the same age as anywhere else, 18-21, but I can't vouch for it.
    I was wondering how many students there in lectures? Also which campus are you at?
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    I was wondering how many students there in lectures? Also which campus are you at?
    Unfortunately I can't really help you there either. The lectures take place during the day and the audio is recorded and put online along with the relevant slides for those (like me) who can't attend. The lecture theatre at London Waterloo holds ~150 people at a guess. I'm not sure the number of students in a lecture really matters anyway, more important is the number in seminars and tutorials (which as I understand it ranges from 3 to 15 or so depending on the course, in my own classes the most is 10 for contract law).

    I'm at London Waterloo.
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    Unfortunately I can't really help you there either. The lectures take place during the day and the audio is recorded and put online along with the relevant slides for those (like me) who can't attend. The lecture theatre at London Waterloo holds ~150 people at a guess. I'm not sure the number of students in a lecture really matters anyway, more important is the number in seminars and tutorials (which as I understand it ranges from 3 to 15 or so depending on the course, in my own classes the most is 10 for contract law).

    I'm at London Waterloo.
    I'm due to start the LLB in September, I was wondering what you could tell me about it? For example, is it very challenging, how many hours of studying/reading do you do in between lectures.

    Do you enjoy it? Has your experience at BPP so far been an enjoyable one? Also, I have a question about the assessment methods at BPP, for example the ratio of exams to coursework per module.

    Sorry for bombarding you with questions! Thanks
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    I'm due to start the LLB in September, I was wondering what you could tell me about it? For example, is it very challenging, how many hours of studying/reading do you do in between lectures.

    Do you enjoy it? Has your experience at BPP so far been an enjoyable one? Also, I have a question about the assessment methods at BPP, for example the ratio of exams to coursework per module.

    Sorry for bombarding you with questions! Thanks
    No problem.

    If you are studying full time you will be doing 60 credits worth of modules per term. This is notionally equivalent to 600 hours of study over a 10 week term, though unless you work extremely slowly you will not need anywhere near this amount of time to do the 'base' work. I'm sure the work for the tutorials, seminars, etc could easily be done in 200 hours of work. There are in general no essays that need doing for seminars, it tends to be more problem question type work. Maybe 1 essay per module. The set reading could be done in 6 hours per week even if you read slowly.

    In all honesty I have found the work quite easy, your mileage may vary. The course certainly concentrates more on the black letter law than a critical analysis of the law. You may find that a positive.

    The courses I am studying this term are examined as follows:

    Contract Law, 2 hour written exam 50%, 2500 word coursework 30%, 25 question multiple choice test 20%.
    Consumer Law 3000 word coursework 30%, multiple choice test 70%
    English legal system 2x3000 word courseworks, 35% each, 30% MCT.

    I don't think there is much doubt that the existence of the MCTs makes it slightly easier to get a higher mark. The 2 hour written exam consists of a choice of 2 from 4 problem questions. There are essay questions in later modules (and the written exams are 3 hours long in later years I think).
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    No problem.

    If you are studying full time you will be doing 60 credits worth of modules per term. This is notionally equivalent to 600 hours of study over a 10 week term, though unless you work extremely slowly you will not need anywhere near this amount of time to do the 'base' work. I'm sure the work for the tutorials, seminars, etc could easily be done in 200 hours of work. There are in general no essays that need doing for seminars, it tends to be more problem question type work. Maybe 1 essay per module. The set reading could be done in 6 hours per week even if you read slowly.

    In all honesty I have found the work quite easy, your mileage may vary. The course certainly concentrates more on the black letter law than a critical analysis of the law. You may find that a positive.

    The courses I am studying this term are examined as follows:

    Contract Law, 2 hour written exam 50%, 2500 word coursework 30%, 25 question multiple choice test 20%.
    Consumer Law 3000 word coursework 30%, multiple choice test 70%
    English legal system 2x3000 word courseworks, 35% each, 30% MCT.

    I don't think there is much doubt that the existence of the MCTs makes it slightly easier to get a higher mark. The 2 hour written exam consists of a choice of 2 from 4 problem questions. There are essay questions in later modules (and the written exams are 3 hours long in later years I think).
    That sounds very good. I assume that the assessment methods would remain the same throughout the different campuses.

    Thank you for your assistance again.
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    That sounds very good. I assume that the assessment methods would remain the same throughout the different campuses.

    Thank you for your assistance again.
    I'm sure they must do.
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    out of curiosity. Did you have any january exams?
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    There were January exams, but I only started in January so my first set of exams is starting in about a week!

    Basically you have exams at the end of every semester on the modules studied in that semester (rather than saving them up for the end of the year or even the end of the course as some institutions do).
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    There were January exams, but I only started in January so my first set of exams is starting in about a week!

    Basically you have exams at the end of every semester on the modules studied in that semester (rather than saving them up for the end of the year or even the end of the course as some institutions do).
    Sorry to keep reviving this thread with questions, but I was wondering whether you had a clue on when people studying the LLB (preferably full time) break up for summer?
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    Sorry to keep reviving this thread with questions, but I was wondering whether you had a clue on when people studying the LLB (preferably full time) break up for summer?
    Assuming you mean the 3-year LLB, exams were the week commencing May 7th, so summer break would have started at the end of that week, and lasted September 24th when the autumn term starts.

    If you were doing the 2-year LLB then there is a much shorter break as you study three terms per year. You would currently be at the end of the 2nd week of 'Summer term', which finishes on August 27th (and you would have from then till September 24th off)
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    Assuming you mean the 3-year LLB, exams were the week commencing May 7th, so summer break would have started at the end of that week, and lasted September 24th when the autumn term starts.

    If you were doing the 2-year LLB then there is a much shorter break as you study three terms per year. You would currently be at the end of the 2nd week of 'Summer term', which finishes on August 27th (and you would have from then till September 24th off)
    I'm doing the three year llb hopefully. thanks for your info.
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