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    Re: Ask the Foreign Secretary/ MUN - MHoC relations thread
    (Original post by Morgsie)
    There is also the UN Universal Declaration of Human Rights.
    There is, but there is no United Nations Court of Human Rights which is the biggest difference between that and the European Convention.
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    But that is why judges are independent of idiots who get elected - it's for them to decide what is and isn't tenable in a court of law.
    As I've said, I'm not second guessing what will be reported back.
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    But why exactly do you want to remove a convention that is well respected around the world and was one of the pioneering models of enshrining human rights? Is it simply because it has the word "European" at the front of it? Would you prefer "imperialist pig-dog" convention? I would assume that you might notice the clear irony in such a thing.
    The ECHR is deeply flawed e.g. the massive backlog of cases. In this country the ECHR is not required to protect human rights, we can do that through our own law and courts.
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    As I've said, I'm not second guessing what will be reported back.
    Well fine, let's wait for this person who has never posted here before to say something. That'll be a big surprise. Like discovering Canadian and American thanksgiving aren't the same or that Europeans celebrate workers on Labour Day in May whereas North Americans celebrate capital on Labor Day in September. I presume you actually have an opinion, though?
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    Re: Ask the Foreign Secretary/ MUN - MHoC relations thread
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    The ECHR is deeply flawed e.g. the massive backlog of cases. In this country the ECHR is not required to protect human rights, we can do that through our own law and courts.
    If there's a backlog, perhaps they need more staff. Otherwise when you can be bothered to come up with an answer which isn't clouded in imperialist ****e, I'll be happy to read it. Until then you may wish to ponder why British statesmen and British judges - who largely wrote the ECHR - believed it fundamentally necessary in the 1940s and the arrogance of presuming you know better than they.
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    (Original post by obi_adorno_kenobi)
    Well fine, let's wait for this person who has never posted here before to say something. That'll be a big surprise. Like discovering Canadian and American thanksgiving aren't the same or that Europeans celebrate workers on Labour Day in May whereas North Americans celebrate capital on Labor Day in September. I presume you actually have an opinion, though?
    They seem keen and frankly we need to encourage people to join in. I have an opinion on the matter.
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    Tunisia would like to inform the MHoC that a decision has been reached with regards to a permanent arrangement. Please see the Arab League thread.
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    Thread updated with EU related issues.
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    I have sent you a PM regarding the position of Switzerland's application in my MUN roles.
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    (Original post by Morgsie)
    I have sent you a PM regarding the position of Switzerland's application in my MUN roles.
    I am discussing options with the SG and will get back to you shortly. We need to reform the procedure though so I'm thinking that we halt the bid, work out the new procedure then carry on with Switzerland's bid.
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    I am discussing options with the SG and will get back to you shortly. We need to reform the procedure though so I'm thinking that we halt the bid, work out the new procedure then carry on with Switzerland's bid.
    Will the RL process be looked upon when reforming the procedures?

    Looking at the RL Process which includes the Copenhagen Criteria as a a guide to go from.
    Last edited by Morgsie; 18-05-2012 at 01:18.
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    Does the Foreign Secretary and the Government believe there should be reform of the MUNSC?
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    Does the Foreign Secretary and the Government believe there should be reform of the MUNSC?
    It is not something that we have prioritised, but I believe that the HoC should have a seat on the MUNSC.
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    It is not something that we have prioritised, but I believe that the HoC should have a seat on the MUNSC.
    Is it on the Agenda? (I know that it is a low priority)

    I have suggested 6 NP members for 1 year terms. 3 are elected by the GA in one month and 6 months later the other 3 are elected.
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    (Original post by Morgsie)
    Is it on the Agenda? (I know that it is a low priority)

    I have suggested 6 NP members for 1 year terms. 3 are elected by the GA in one month and 6 months later the other 3 are elected.
    Reviewing my initial report, this Government has already achieved the formation of the EU Bloc, the beginnings of the repatriation of powers and the establishment of this thread and so our current agenda consists of:

    - Repatriation of powers from the EU (All term)
    - Treaty for Commonwealth trading zone (the Bloc may not be needed since I'm going to tweak the Charter to allow a meeting every six months of the Commonwealth states) (June/ July)

    We can therefore look at other issues within the sphere of Foreign Affairs and indeed I am going to produce a second report in the future. It is therefore on the agenda, but not on the top of the agenda.

    It's an idea that I'm willing to look at, but my initial priority is to get the MHoC on that Security Council.
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    (Original post by toronto353)
    Reviewing my initial report, this Government has already achieved the formation of the EU Bloc, the beginnings of the repatriation of powers and the establishment of this thread and so our current agenda consists of:

    - Repatriation of powers from the EU (All term)
    - Treaty for Commonwealth trading zone (the Bloc may not be needed since I'm going to tweak the Charter to allow a meeting every six months of the Commonwealth states) (June/ July)

    We can therefore look at other issues within the sphere of Foreign Affairs and indeed I am going to produce a second report in the future. It is therefore on the agenda, but not on the top of the agenda.

    It's an idea that I'm willing to look at, but my initial priority is to get the MHoC on that Security Council.
    I understand, thanks anyway.

    What happens to the current UK Rep if you are successful in getting MHOC a place on the MUNSC?
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    I understand, thanks anyway.

    What happens to the current UK Rep if you are successful in getting MHOC a place on the MUNSC?
    They should stay on the MUNSC because they represent the RL UK Government, we don't. I am always happy to consider any suggestions that any member may have. Just because a policy is not on my list doesn't mean that we can't work on trying to enact it.
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    Re: Ask the Foreign Secretary/ MUN - MHoC relations thread
    (Original post by Morgsie)
    Is it on the Agenda? (I know that it is a low priority)

    I have suggested 6 NP members for 1 year terms. 3 are elected by the GA in one month and 6 months later the other 3 are elected.
    That would be an awful amount of elections wouldn't it?
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    I like the idea of a greater rotation of SC positions. We've got some fantastic permanent reps but it would be nice if the positions had some form of term limit so more people could get a chance to participate in the SC.
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