[Metrobeans]

B432 - Immigrant Welfare Bill, MacCuishy

Immigrant Welfare Bill 2012

An Act stopping immigrants from receiving welfare for an extended period of time from the state.

BE IT ENACTED by The Queen's most Excellent Majesty, by and with the advice and consent of the Commons in this present Parliament assembled, in accordance with the provisions of the Parliament Acts 1911 and 1949, and by the authority of the same, as follows:

Part I: Qualification for Welfare
(a) You may only claim welfare if you have been naturalised as a British citizen or hold dual nationality. To qualify for naturalisation, you need to meet the following criteria:-
(i) If you are over 18 and have been living in the United Kingdom for the last five years (or three years if you are married to or a civil partner of a British citizen) you may be able to apply for naturalisation.
(ii)You may also be able to apply for naturalisation if you or your husband, wife or civil partner is in crown or designated service outside the United Kingdom

Part II: Job Seeker’s Allowance
(a) Immigrants will be given 6 moths of Job Seeker’s Allowance upon losing their job before being deported if they have not been naturalised as a British citizen.

Part III: Enforcement
(a) The enforcement of this Act should be the responsibility of the Police forces of the UK and The UK Border Agency.
(b) Unemployed immigrants who have not been naturalised as a British citizen will be subsequently deported back to their country of origin with their family who migrated with them after 6 months since their last employment.

Part IV: Exemptions
(a) Immigrants with children in education will be not be deported.
(b) If students decide to stay in the UK but do not have a job, they will be granted 6 months of JSA before being deported after finishing their degree if they are unable to find a job satisfying the criteria of qualifying for immigration, or they have not been naturalised as a British citizen.
(c) High Value Migrants will be given 2 years and 6 months of JSA before being considered for deportation.
(d) EU Nationals and Asylum Seekers are also exempt from this bill
(b) The Secretary of State will be granted the power to make further exemptions to this Act as he finds necessary.

Part IV: Commencement, Short Title and Extent
(a) This Act may be cited as the Immigration Welfare Act 2012
(b) This bill shall extend to the United Kingdom; and
(c) Shall come into force on the 1st January 2013 following Royal Assent

Devolution Notes

1. This bill shall extend to England; and
2. Shall come into force on the 1st January 2013 following Royal Assent; and
3. Shall be passed to the Welsh Assembly Government for their consideration; and
4. Subject to changes made by the National Assembly for Wales; and
5. Subject to an affirmative vote shall come into force on the 1st January 2013 following Royal
Assent; and
6. Shall be passed to the Northern Ireland Executive for their consideration; and
7. Subject to changes made by the Northern Ireland Assembly; and
8. Subject to an affirmative vote in accordance with the conditions specified in Section 4.4 of the Federal Britain Act (2010);
9. Shall come into force on the 1st January 2013 following Royal Assent; and
10. Shall be passed to the Scottish Executive for their consideration; and
11. Subject to changes made by the Scottish Parliament; and
12. Subject to an affirmative vote shall come into force on the 1st January 2013 following Royal Assent

[SciFiRory]

this is horrendously unfair on immigrants, especially in the current economic climate, no way I can support this.

[JPKC]

We need new rules for immigrant welfare but this Bill is just so extreme I doubt it could ever achieve anything more than fringe support in the House.

I'm very inclined to vote 'no' because I suspect this Bill, similar to the last one, is motivated by xenophobia and an irrational fear of immigrants more than any fiscal sense - having piss poor ghettos for immigrants without welfare would cost far more than the meagre sums they are currently given. Also, having such stringent rules without bringing in any additional funding for the UKBA is just asking for a massive increase in illegal immigration.

[MacDaddi]

Unfair? Benefits for British people. Benefits aren't a right, they are as the name suggests, a benefit.

6 months is a bit generous if you ask me, it is plenty of time to find work

[ByronicHero]

No, this is terrible.

The wording is vague and why can't under 18 year olds claim welfare? I was on income support when I was 16....

[MacDaddi]

(Original post by paddy__power)
No, this is terrible.

The wording is vague and why can't under 18 year olds claim welfare? I was on income support when I was 16....

They are legally still Children and are the responsibility of their parents who should supplement their income (if any) accordingly.

[ByronicHero]

(Original post by MacCuishy)
They are legally still Children and are the responsibility of their parents who should supplement their income (if any) accordingly.

What nonsense. What if the parents are also on welfare? What if they refuse?

This is hilariously bad and if it passes the house should be ashamed.

On that note I leave you to it.

[MacDaddi]

(Original post by paddy__power)
What nonsense. What if the parents are also on welfare? What if they refuse?

This is hilariously bad and if it passes the house should be ashamed.

On that note I leave you to it.

If you are under 18 you are a child and your parents have a LEGAL responsibility to either look after you or provide you with somebody who can. No if's, no but's.

I really can't see how this is hilariously bad, seeming as a shadow coalition are trying to pass the Fair Pay Bill, which is BAAADDD and quite frankly laughable.

This is a sensible bill, leaving benefits to british people and people who have been around long enough to pay their taxes.

[ByronicHero]

on all counts.

[MacDaddi]

(Original post by paddy__power)
on all counts.

You are the legal responsibility of your parents until you turn 18 am I not correct?

[Birchington]

Someone has an unhealthy obsession with immigrants. As a result, we have yet more misguided nonsense.

[Rakas21]

Amend 18 to 16 (pretty sure that your party has passed acts lowering lots of things to 16 before) and harmonise the civil partner issue.

Other than that, aye.

I would add that you need to ammend your devolution notes given that the Federal Britain Act 2010 was repealed.

[TopHat]

Given it doesn't look like the other half of this will go through, why is there reason to vote for this? No.

[tehFrance]

(Original post by paddy__power)
The wording is vague and why can't under 18 year olds claim welfare? I was on income support when I was 16....

Are you serious? you have to be 18 to get JSA for instance, why would you allow children income support?

[dgeorge]

Question: what if the immigrant is in the country, claimed JSA for say, 5 months, and then stopped? Would they still be deported?

[Aj12]

I don't see why not. The job of the British welfare state is to support British people and Eu nationals due to our obligations under EU treaties.

[Ano1]

(Original post by SciFiBoy)
this is horrendously unfair on immigrants, especially in the current economic climate, no way I can support this.

im foreign myself, but is this a joke

[MacDaddi]

Nobody yet has explained their reasoning behind calling this bill a joke. I am up for constructive criticism.

[internetguru]

I have stated in the past that this bill fails to deal with EU and asylum seeking immigrants. I am willing to compromise and say yes to this bill.

[tehFrance]

(Original post by internetguru)
I have stated in the past that this bill fails to deal with EU immigrants.

And I have stated to you that you cannot do anything about EU immigrants! I also questioned you about it in the government forum as to why you think you can and you never answered.