[Remarqable M]

blame mother nature

[Jimbo1234]

(Original post by jackmikeMon)
An interesting point, but as every person is different, I think you might find that there are a whole lot of women that would relish the oppertunity to be treated like a Lady, rather than something on lower terms.
Ok, I accept some may not, but whilst many others do.
Thanks for your input.

Well sadly I am still waiting to meet women who are ladies.
All I have met/know about are rough women, immature women, spoilt women, and hyper-insecure women who can not handle a man being romantic, the latter being the most common.

Also you have to remember that if the man puts the time and input into treating a woman as a lady, then what will the woman put into the relationship in return? Getting fat and watching the tv more?

[Pindar]

(Original post by de_monies)
Perhaps, but to say that woman has really nice (insert bodily part) in front of them, is quite rude tbf

I compliment women on their appearance all the time. From their response they seem to like it.
I don't understand how complimenting someone could be constued as "rude" unless someone is very easily offended.

(Original post by de_monies)
Well, I would have thought it's more pervy no? ie: if you say "I'd tap that" in front of a woman, then that's a bit more than complimenting - creepy even

Let's see. Pervy = perverted = different. There's nothing wrong with being different.
Creepy = causing fear or unease

That just seems to me not a very good compliment. Since most men would have sex with any woman, saying they would is kind of stating the obvious and could be applied to anyone. No one is going to feel special or impressed because of that.

However if I was overheard someone commenting that they find me sexually attractive and would sleep with me, how could I take that as anything but a compliment and be flattered? It certainly wouldn't cause me "fear or unease".

If someone complimenting you causes you "fear or unease" you need to get your head checked.

(Original post by de_monies)
The difference being, every thing is in the open now

Good, then we can stop being in denial about ourselves.

(Original post by de_monies)
Well, tbh there are actually.

They may be "revealing" clothes. They reveal more skin, big deal. Fail to see how it's "sexually revealing". Unless you mean it reveals that they are sexual beings instead of repressed prudes?

(Original post by de_monies)
Well, unless you're an obese guy, then yeah it actually is. If a woman walked out naked, she'd definitely turn a lot of heads

But that's only because it's unusual and social taboo. If it was normal, she wouldn't. In many cultures no one bats an eye when people are walking around stark naked. In fact, they look at you weird for wearing so much unnecessary clothing in the heat and being afraid of exposing your ding dong as if you're embarrassed about it or something. They laugh a lot about that.

(Original post by de_monies)
The issue here isn't treating people differently because of the clothes they wear, but because of who they are. I mean, it's only courteous to do things like open doors to any one, regardless of their gender

Agreed, but clothes should not be used to determine whether you should treat them courteously or not.

[Remarqable M]

But I totally agree with you OP

[damilola]

because less females are acting like ladies nowadays

[xBillyBrownx]

(Original post by Chumbaniya)
I like that you put a considerable amount of effort into the guy-who-thinks-he's-far-better-at-writing-than-he-is effect. The number of superfluous expressions you've included shows attention to detail.

8/10.

Oh he's back.

[Foo.mp3]

(Original post by JordanR)

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[Casshern1456]

(Original post by Remarqable M)



blame mother nature

I've just been staring at that picture in awe.

[Cll_ws]

I think you're only thinking about the positives of being a woman back in the 50's, i'm sure there was plenty of negatives to counter the things such as having the door held open for them, views and expectations that will of been eradicated today

[Chumbaniya]

(Original post by xBillyBrownx)
Oh he's back.

Slim Shady? The Terminator? You'll have to explain.

[mirin?]

You're just talking absolute nonsense. Do you have any clue whatsoever?

[No Man]

Because they don't want to be treated like ladies anymore, if they did, they wouldn't mind the 1950's mindset.

But a lot of females are fickle unfortunately.

[Discouraged One]

(Original post by damilola)
because less females are acting like ladies nowadays

What does it mean to act like a lady?

This question is for everyone, I'm genuinely interested to know what your definitions of a lady are.

[Ultimate1]

OP is a strong White Knight.

[KimKallstrom]

Why aren't women treating males like men anymore?

[bengalisoldier]

chav can't treat!

[L.O.V.E]

OP I agree with you to some extent but I think it's mostly down to the change in general attitudes between men and women. Back in the 1950s, women were more or less just housewives, sex was something that wasn't talked about as much, being a "gentleman" was seen as incredibly important etc. Nowadays sex is everywhere, it's even more commercialised and is used to sell everything.

There are many times that lads in college make dirty comments with their mates, which is referred to as banter but mostly the girls aren't that bothered by it. I'll be honest, I do feel uncomfortable if I'm sat next to a bunch of guys who are discussing what they did last night in graphic detail. But I know plenty of girls who probably talk much the same as the guys and don't bat an eyelid when someone refers to them as a c. unt.
I think it's because our culture is very much based upon sex, even more so than it was before, as a girl there is pressure to dress a certain way. Girls who don't wear make-up or certain clothes get other girls bitching behind their back and get less attention from men. More and more guys expect girls to look like Victoria's Secret models, perceptions of beauty are a lot more fake than they were before and the pressure to look good is beginning to affect girls much earlier on. I've gone way off topic but basically I reckon it's all down to the changes in society.

[unique193]

(Original post by Discouraged One)
What does it mean to act like a lady?

This question is for everyone, I'm genuinely interested to know what your definitions of a lady are.

She is more precious than rubies.
11 Her husband can trust her,
and she will greatly enrich his life.
12 She brings him good, not harm,
all the days of her life.


13 She finds wool and flax
and busily spins it.
14 She is like a merchant’s ship,
bringing her food from afar.
15 She gets up before dawn to prepare breakfast for her household
and plan the day’s work for her servant girls.


16 She goes to inspect a field and buys it;
with her earnings she plants a vineyard.
17 She is energetic and strong,
a hard worker.
18 She makes sure her dealings are profitable;
her lamp burns late into the night.


19 Her hands are busy spinning thread,
her fingers twisting fiber.
20 She extends a helping hand to the poor
and opens her arms to the needy.
21 She has no fear of winter for her household,
for everyone has warm[b] clothes.


22 She makes her own bedspreads.
She dresses in fine linen and purple gowns.
23 Her husband is well known at the city gates,
where he sits with the other civic leaders.
24 She makes belted linen garments
and sashes to sell to the merchants.


25 She is clothed with strength and dignity,
and she laughs without fear of the future.
26 When she speaks, her words are wise,
and she gives instructions with kindness.
27 She carefully watches everything in her household
and suffers nothing from laziness.


28 Her children stand and bless her.
Her husband praises her:
29 “There are many virtuous and capable women in the world,
but you surpass them all!”


30 Charm is deceptive, and beauty does not last;
but a woman who fears the Lord will be greatly praised.
31 Reward her for all she has done.
Let her deeds publicly declare her praise.

perfect description of what a real lady was back in the days. thats from the bible by the way

[Evangelica]

(Original post by ELs123)
lol.

"I want some equality"
10 minutes later
"why does nobody hold the door for me?
Why does nobody drop their coat in this puddle so I can cross the road?
I hate men they don't treat us like women"


women logic

"All women think and feel the same way about wanting equality so I'm not going to bother being a gentleman to any woman."


male logic
See what I did there?

N.B I don't actually think that's male logic, just the logic of a few boneheads.

Firstly, not all women hold the same concept of equality between the sexes.
Secondly, just because a woman believes that she should be paid the same amount for doing exactly the same job as a man does not mean she does not deserve to be treated with respect. The coat in puddle thing is excessive, but holding doors open for people is just common courtesy and not gender exclusive. I hold doors open for guys, and what?

[blu tack]

(Original post by emclme)
I suppose it is because of a number of things, feminists criticising men for opening doors for them. This determination to be equal to men has led men to believe they don't have to place women on pedestal and treat them like the "meek and mild" damsels in distress of the past. Although, it can't fully be blamed on feminists, society doesn't expect men to treat women with respect, which means it has become appropriate for men to treat women as sexual objects-nothing else. Call me old-fashioned but I still believe in good manners, holding doors for people, replying with please and thank you, the amount of times I expect the following, only to get pissed of with the rudeness of some people. For instance, if I'm on the bus and some chav comes along with a push chair, I'll obviously give up my seat but rarely do I even get a simple smile, never mind a thank you.

Wait, so you think women should be treated like meek and mild damsels in distress? No thanks. Respect and good manners are important for everyone, not just women. Hold the door open for me because I'm a person, not because I'm female.