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  1. Mister.T's Avatar
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    Child's right to a mother > Gay couple's right to adopt?
    Is a child's right to a mother more important than a gay couple's right to adopt?

    The law already recognises the importance of a mother to a child. In any child-custody case, all other things being equal, a mother is given preference over a father. In my opinion that makes sense. Why should this not apply to adopted children?

    Also I realise that a lesbian couple would provide the child with a mother (or two) and my opinion is that this is significantly better than letting a gay (male) couple adopt.
  2. MancStudent098's Avatar
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    Re: Child's right to a mother > Gay couple's right to adopt?
    This might be a vaguely interesting argument if there weren't more kids in state care than willing adoptive mothers. Willing foster parents > than no foster parents. Sexual orientation or the fact that they're the same gender is really a fairly tiny concern.
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    Re: Child's right to a mother > Gay couple's right to adopt?
    In your opinion then should lesbians adopting be even better than a heterosexual couple? Seeing as the mother is important and the father isn't apparently.

    This position isn't even supported by modern psychology. The courts generally side with mothers at the request of children or because people have this pre-conceived notion that a mother is more important than a father. Psychology has shown that it is important that children be in a loving, supportive, and safe environment. Having a mother or father isn't the most important thing. Also it has been shown that two parents is better than just one...due to an increase in support, funding, etc. So why should a single mother get preference over a homosexual couple?
    Last edited by RandZul'Zorander; 18-04-2012 at 18:14.
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    Re: Child's right to a mother > Gay couple's right to adopt?
    I don't understand what your thread is trying to state.

    Are you saying that if there's a child who has been put up for adoption, that a women has preference over a gay couple?

    As I've stated in other threads, I can list over a dozen people I know whom have been brought up with Homosexual parents and they've done fantastically in life with as much as a leg up from ther parents as a heterosexual couple would've given them.

    But your thread isn't exactly clear on what you are discussing here.
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    Re: Child's right to a mother > Gay couple's right to adopt?
    just no. Children need Both à father And mother
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    Re: Child's right to a mother > Gay couple's right to adopt?
    A chance for a loving family, whoever they are, is better than having no family
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    Re: Child's right to a mother > Gay couple's right to adopt?
    Is forbidding gay couples the right to adopt children more important that the children's right to be adopted?

    There are far less adoptive parents than there are children. Most orphans end up growing in a care home and/or moving from one foster family to another.
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    Re: Child's right to a mother > Gay couple's right to adopt?
    (Original post by Mister.T)
    Why should this not apply to adopted children?
    If in some imaginary world a gay couple lived exactly the same way, in all ways, as a straight couple, the straight couple would adopt the child. But i really do doubt this has happened, or can even happen for that matter, there will always be differences in preference of one couple over another.

    Unfortunately women who want to adopt (whether it be with a husband or not) don't grow on trees and there is absolutely nothing wrong with a gay, or lesbian, couple adopting.
    And we cant just go giving kids to anyone willy nilly just because they are a straight couple, even if they wont be as good parents as the gay couple will be

    Any adoptive parents no matter their sexuality > no adoptive parents > bad adoptive parents
    Last edited by Tommyjw; 18-04-2012 at 18:21.
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    Re: Child's right to a mother > Gay couple's right to adopt?
    (Original post by Mister.T)
    The law already recognises the importance of a mother to a child. In any child-custody case, all other things being equal, a mother is given preference over a father. In my opinion that makes sense.
    Why does it make sense?

    Also I realise that a lesbian couple would provide the child with a mother (or two) and my opinion is that this is significantly better than letting a gay (male) couple adopt.
    Why is it better?
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    just no. Children need Both à father And mother
    This attitude has been shown to be false.
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    Re: Child's right to a mother > Gay couple's right to adopt?
    But "a mother" involves lots more subtle stuff than just having a vag, gay people in relationships tend to take up roles and do behaviours that can't really be compared to anyone straight, you can't assume two gay men are the same as two straight men.
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    Re: Child's right to a mother > Gay couple's right to adopt?
    (Original post by RandZul'Zorander)
    This attitude has been shown to be false.
    and boys growing up without father isnt.:rolleyes:
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    Re: Child's right to a mother > Gay couple's right to adopt?
    By this logic, if a child's mother died in childbirth, we would be better off taking them away from their single dad to a single adoptive mother or an adoptive straight couple, or at least putting them in care where they can have a woman looking after them.
    What a silly idea...
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    Re: Child's right to a mother > Gay couple's right to adopt?
    (Original post by Danen)
    and boys growing up without father isnt.:rolleyes:
    Isn't what? This sentence doesn't even make sense.
    And if you think about it that way, you'd be better off putting a baby boy with a male gay couple, then he can have two dads...
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    Re: Child's right to a mother > Gay couple's right to adopt?
    I'd like to know what the legal basis of the idea of a child's 'right to a mother' is. As I understand it, it is not illegal to be a single father.
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    Re: Child's right to a mother > Gay couple's right to adopt?
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    and boys growing up without father isnt.:rolleyes:
    What are you talking about? Boys growing up without a father on the whole come out perfectly fine. Idk what you are talking about or where you get these ideas from but they are not true. Please do some research before spewing such nonsense. :confused:
  18. Sisu's Avatar
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    Re: Child's right to a mother > Gay couple's right to adopt?
    There's no such thing as right to a mother. What is a mother? What qualities does she bring to the table? Now, explain to me why a man can't intrinsically be capable of possessing these qualities?
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    Re: Child's right to a mother > Gay couple's right to adopt?
    Why is two lesbians better than two gay males???
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    Re: Child's right to a mother > Gay couple's right to adopt?
    No, children in care need to be placed with the adoptive parents that can best care for them, and given that the majority of children up for adoption have pretty complex problems and backgrounds, there may well be no straight couple that can manage that. There might be a gay couple who is better equipped, informed and prepared than the straight couple, in which case it should be the gay couple who adopt the child.

    Children don't have a right to a mother - it may be ideal for some children, but any parents is usually > being in care. Added to that, a few of the children in care would positively be better off with no mother, sad but true. Mother is not always the best thing for all children
    Last edited by SilverArch; 18-04-2012 at 19:51.
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