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Original post by frenchfries
But the bigger worry is the production of nuclear materials. Based on the latest estimates of the International Panel on Fissile Materials, an outside group that estimates worldwide nuclear production, experts say Pakistan has now produced enough material for 40 to 100 additional weapons, including a new class of plutonium bombs. If those estimates are correct and some government officials regard them as high it would put Pakistan on a par with long-established nuclear powers.

“If not now, Pakistan will soon have the fifth largest nuclear arsenal in the world, surpassing the United Kingdom,” said Bruce Riedel, a former C.I.A. officer and the author of “Deadly Embrace: Pakistan, America, and the Future of Global Jihad.”

“And judging by the new nuclear reactors that are coming online and the pace of production, Pakistan is on a course to be the fourth largest nuclear weapons state in the world, ahead of France,” he said. The United States, Russia and China are the three largest nuclear weapons states.


Look for yourself:

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/01/world/asia/01policy.html?pagewanted=all

http://www.npr.org/2011/02/03/133470765/pakistan-the-worlds-fifth-largest-nuclear-power

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1359231/Pakistan-overtake-Britain-worlds-fifth-largest-nuclear-power.html

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/why-pakistan-still-needs-us-assistance/2011/11/30/gIQAuJ2OIO_story.html

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-11882019

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/feb/03/pakistan-nuclear-bombs-editorial

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/us-embassy-cables-documents/181529

http://politicalvelcraft.org/2012/02/02/obama-as-the-lies-come-crashing-down-pakistan-has-doubled-the-size-of-its-nuclear-arsenal/

http://www.acus.org/natosource/pakistan-capable-overtaking-britain-and-france-among-world%E2%80%99s-largest-nuclear-weapons-powe


It doesn't matter if Pakistan builds an extra one hundred warheads. Most of the UK's warheads are 80-100 Kilotons, while most of Pakistan's are estimated to be around 25 kilotons. The largest test weapon Pakistan has ever produced was 36 kilotons, while the UK has produced a 3 megaton yield (3,000 kilotons). On top of that, Pakistan's deterrent has a maximum range of 2,500 km, while the UK's submarine based system allows for delivery anywhere in the world. Pakistan wouldn't even be able to hit the UK in the event of a nuclear war.
Also, China only has a stockpile of around 180 warheads, behind both the UK and France, so no, it wouldn't be the third largest regardless.
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Three ways of looking at this:-

Pakistan is a nuclear power.

Turkey is a NATO member so under NATO doctrine an attack on Turkey is an attack on the USA, UK, France, etc, etc

Indonesia has greatest independent military capability.
Politically, I'd say turkey, though I assume this thread concerns global fire power:

http://www.globalfirepower.com/

6th turkey
11th Iran
15th Pakistan

Obviously, Pakistan s the only one with nuclear power but
nuclear capability not taken into account on this
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Reply 23
Turkey probably, then maybe Pakistan.
Reply 24
Original post by IdeasForLife
Tell that to all the dead Pakistani soldiers and 32000 dead civilians.


Unfortunately I can't, as they're dead.
Reply 25
funny how it's about 'Muslim' countries.....make it sound like as if the Muslims are the only violent ones, why not ask it in a general way:

Which is the most powerful nation?
Original post by *Nasir*
funny how it's about 'Muslim' countries.....make it sound like as if the Muslims are the only violent ones, why not ask it in a general way:

Which is the most powerful nation?


because the answer would be the USA? Can't really debate that.
Reply 27
Original post by AkaJetson
Pakistan is fighting the Pakistani Taliban, not the Taliban in Afghanistan. Two different groups.


So you're informing me of this? or are you agreeing with me?

I didn't specify which Taliban.
Diffo pakistani coz pakistani is only muslim nuclear power . Pakistani army training other too may army forces around world . Pakistani only need a leader and rest pakistan is full package everything is thre but need just a good leader .
Pakistan having nukes(Their maximum hit radius is around 2500 km) means nothing as the sole purpose of their existence is to threaten or sometimes blackmail India and prevent being invaded by them.

Pakistan knows that it cant compete. So their response is to keep increase their stockpile with cheap short range nuclear missiles.
And their strategy works and prevents them from getting invaded

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Original post by frenchfries
Pakistan is on the verge of overtaking Britain as the world's fifth largest nuclear power.


Pakistans nuclear weapons are not transcontinental so no, and heir nukes are probably bought with British aid money
Original post by frenchfries
It's between Pakistan,Turkey and Iran I suppose?


Turkey and Pakistan are equally strong.
Pakistan has missile technology and nuclear weapons and can wipe off the israeli jewish plague from the face of the earth in minutes
Original post by frenchfries
Pakistan is on the verge of overtaking Britain as the world's fifth largest nuclear power.


Probably the most ridiculous, preposterous post. I have ever seen on TSR
Original post by farhan2236
Turkey and Pakistan are equally strong.
Pakistan has missile technology and nuclear weapons and can wipe off the israeli jewish plague from the face of the earth in minutes

It really can't lol, coming from a Muslim x
Original post by VeniViciVidi
Saudi Arabia. Most foreign suppliers are Western (France, United Kingdom, Italy, United States), ranked 24th in manpower with a remarkable air force. Or perhaps Pakistan as they actually have nuclear capability but Turkey is a very adaptable force too.


You stupid prick, it is obviously Turkey.
the answer is turkey, of course.
Surely it's Saudi Arabia with the 4th largest military budget in the world !
Whilst the ummah should be united under one banner and we shouldn’t compare one Army with another. An army’s strength is based on combat experience, budget, personnel, military technology and comprehensively include land, sea and air power. It is sad to know the Arab’s have advance American equipment but don’t know how to use it, by the time there is a need the equipment will have expired and still won’t know how to use it. Arabs have never seen real combat. Syria, Iraq and Libya have all been destroyed to the ground whilst the rest peep out their window in fear that they maybe next. Turkey is a brave nation and are rising, Iranians won’t go without a fight another courageous nation and pakistan is the one to watch, they not only have experience of combat fighting an ongoing war against insurgency and terrorism backed by India, Afghanistan and western powers ie US & UK and are slaying the enemy. Pakistan has an arsenal of missile capabilities including nuclear power. They have one of the worlds best soldiers, build their own tanks, ships and fighter jets and their an emerging economy as they have just developed CPEC -gawadar a deep sea port and an economic corridor for Asia.
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Reply 38
Pakistan for its nuclear abilities
Turkey for its conventional abilities
Saudi for its monetary abilities and being home to the key sites
Iran in a general regional sense and among shia's
I think it does not matter because no matter how the world will look at it, we only follow and believe what our Prophet PBUH says

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