Racism in Sweden
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Re: Racism in SwedenWhat makes you think Swedish people are not tolerant of immigrants? Au contraire, Swedish people are very accepting however some immigrants are unwilling to integrate into the population and that's the problem. The problem isn't only among these immigrants but also within the government in terms of providing them with help learning the language, getting a job etc.(Original post by Brutal Honesty)
Integration is when the native population accepts you. In Sweden it's a lot more difficult for Swedes to accept immigrants so why isn't the government encouraging an attitude change on behalf of Swedes rather than placing all the blame on immigrants?
The notion of swedish people in general not being tolerant of immigrants is absolutely absurd. Sweden is more culturally diverse than most might think. -
Re: Racism in SwedenThat's true. But at the same time, objectively its not only the ethnic swedes who have this issue with the immigrants, the problem also lies with individuals who immigrated years ago (20+ years ago). Obviously accommodating people from war torn countries is difficult hence why Sweden needs to reduce the immigration and deal with the current problems. But in general if your foreign in Sweden you won't feel uncomfortable at all. That's my experience and I lived there for 20 years. My parents have never encountered racism either except for in the early 80's I'd say but then again to a certain extent that's understandable.(Original post by Cyanohydrin)
Yeah, my experience was really a duel Sweden - the inner city Sweden and then suburban Sweden. The problem in my opinion is that the immigrants that have moved to Sweden are often very different culturally to the Swedes and come from troubled parts of the world like Somalia, Iraq, the Balkans and so on. Add to this they have come very recently and in very large numbers. So you get widespread residential segregation, and Swedes are often distrustful of the newcomers given Sweden is traditionally a very homogeneous society and it is a very big and quick change (happening really in the last 20 - 30 years) -
Re: Racism in SwedenWestern Europe is full of prejudices about Eastern Europe and especially the Serbs, the last 20 years has told many lies about the Serbs, especially regarding the war.(Original post by Brutal Honesty)
I'm surprised someone from Serbia isn't racist. Isn't Eastern Europe full of racists?
I guarantee you that the Serbs are not a racist nation, we were always on the side of anti-fascism, many gypsies who were expelled from Hungary and Croatia living in Serbia, we are happy to receive them.
Unfortunately a lot of things you do not know about us, everywhere there are good and bad people, you can not generalize a nation -
Re: Racism in SwedenI wouldn't like to be black in Serbia. I'd much rather be black in the UK.(Original post by Milos1989)
Western Europe is full of prejudices about Eastern Europe and especially the Serbs, the last 20 years has told many lies about the Serbs, especially regarding the war.
I guarantee you that the Serbs are not a racist nation, we were always on the side of anti-fascism, many gypsies who were expelled from Hungary and Croatia living in Serbia, we are happy to receive them.
Unfortunately a lot of things you do not know about us, everywhere there are good and bad people, you can not generalize a nation -
Re: Racism in Sweden(Original post by Brutal Honesty)
I wouldn't like to be black in Serbia. I'd much rather be black in the UK.
Unfortunately Serbia is not as developed country, and there are not many foreigners, mostly a lot of students from third world countries because we have always been friends with them, especially during the Tito , has a lot of Chinese in Belgrade at about 40, 000 I and im discipline to respect all people and really make me glad to come foreigners with us! -
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Seeing as the guy who played the head was black I seriously doubt it was racist. It looked more like an Enderman with an afro to me. Sexist? It was about genital mutilation. Tasteful? As I'm sure the cake was delicious I thought it looked utterly disgusting when the guy was screaming when a slice of cake was cut by what would be the vagina. Probably shock tactics. I found it hilarious that someone came up with this, almost enough to rival the sick minds of the Japanese.
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Re: Racism in SwedenI see what you did there(Original post by Ciccina)
I personally find it offensive and macabre, it really lacks in taste..those who baked the cake probably thought it was a good idea..but ffs the Prime Minister (and her staff) should have thought about it. -
Re: Racism in Sweden(Original post by nunugab)
What makes you think Swedish people are not tolerant of immigrants? Au contraire, Swedish people are very accepting however some immigrants are unwilling to integrate into the population and that's the problem. The problem isn't only among these immigrants but also within the government in terms of providing them with help learning the language, getting a job etc.
The notion of swedish people in general not being tolerant of immigrants is absolutely absurd. Sweden is more culturally diverse than most might think.
You reneging on multiculturalism bro, That's racist! -
Re: Racism in Sweden(Original post by Milos1989)
Western Europe is full of prejudices about Eastern Europe and especially the Serbs, the last 20 years has told many lies about the Serbs, especially regarding the war.
I guarantee you that the Serbs are not a racist nation, we were always on the side of anti-fascism, many gypsies who were expelled from Hungary and Croatia living in Serbia, we are happy to receive them.
Unfortunately a lot of things you do not know about us, everywhere there are good and bad people, you can not generalize a nation
Absolute lies Eastern Europe is racist, have you seen the way Russians treat people who don't look Slavic. The way they beat them up, it's absolutely disgusting.
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Re: Racism in Sweden
Wow what a disturbing looking cake. I dont think the black community will like this very much. Looks to much like a Golliwog. There are some very bad cultural practice from minority people but this is very extreme. We know how offended a lot of people get from this sort of thing. Best to nip it in the bud and tackle issue differently than cause potential racial outrage.
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Re: Racism in SwedenI do not know for the Russians but I know that Serbs are not racist !(Original post by Kruz)
Absolute lies Eastern Europe is racist, have you seen the way Russians treat people who don't look Slavic. The way they beat them up, it's absolutely disgusting.
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Re: Racism in Sweden(Original post by Milos1989)
I do not know for the Russians but I know that Serbs are not racist ! -
Re: Racism in Sweden(Original post by Kruz)
You are comparing this small group of hooligans with the entire Serbian people? In every nation there are extreme groups, you can not generalize a whole nation, and this little outburst condemned the whole nation -
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One person should not be blaming the situation on immigrant or native person. It is governments fault for not thinking through consequences of bringing many people with competely different morals and view on life as others especially if one is known for being very bigoted to the other. Government should think more before introducing these policies as it affect all people immigrant and natives. On the other hand a native person does have right to respectfully voice their dismay at immigrants if in the area they live they are causing significant problems. I have old time immigrant relatives myself it is a hard thing to get to the bottom to as you cannot single out every immigrant as not integrating as many do. I know one woman who has married a pakistan man and he is like English or Western person, she hasnt changed to a muslim and he isnt a strong muslim anyway I do not think. His wife still wears western clothes and goes out to the clubs so it is wrong to stigmatise all the immigrant and foreign national people as there are many as I have shown above who have integrated. Only problem people should have is if there is a large amount of people who are hurting and damaging community because there way of life is so different to the UK and they are disgusted or deplored by it. Which is wrong of course as coming to a country you respect their general values an rules.
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Re: Racism in SwedenI hope it wasn't the cake that you were eating.(Original post by DorianGrayism)
A bit disgusting...especially since I was eating something when I opened the link.
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Re: Racism in SwedenThis got banned recentally from what I understand... thank god!(Original post by Cyanohydrin)
Right I lived in Sweden for two years and this open and tolerant thing is BS! All the Scandinavian countries - Sweden, Norway, Denmark and so on are much more racist than Britain. Sweden is depressingly racist, and the trumpeting of themselves as the great multicultural country is a total lie. All immigrants of colour are in, in effect, ghettoes, and there is no mixing at all. The Swedes tend to openly dislike non white immigrants in Sweden. People talk about the shootings in Norway, but it is little reported that there was a serial killer targeting immigrants in Malmo recently.
Sweden also had a eugenics programme and was second only to Nazi Germany in the amount of people who were sterilised under it. In fact, Sweden's eugenics programme is still remains in place today - but now the only group whom the state systematically sterilises is transsexual people.
If you just read TSR you'd get this weird impression of the UK - i.e. that it is the most racist nation evahh!! It doesn't seem to matter to them the French vote in 10 times the numbers for the far-right, or that people like Jorg Haider have actually been in power in Austria, or the True Finns in Finland, or the Danish Peoples Party and so on and on.
There is a lot of sinister racist **** going down in Sweden, such as the recent murders of foreign-looking people and loads of other stuff if you follow the news. I knew a Chinese girl who was brought up in Sweden and told me that in England, she only gets racist remarks relatively infrequently, and that this is a great improvement on her life in Sweden. There is definitely a problem with racism in Sweden.