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  1. Christianlady's Avatar
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    To my "enemies"
    Hello,

    I am basically copying and posting this from one thread that I wrote to make another one, because I have personally experienced several insults and mockery against me and what I believe.

    By the way, if anyone would like to check my background, a moderator most definitely can, because I have nothing to hide.

    Jesus is right. Jesus said that people would insult those who follow him, and it is true.

    Matthew 5:11-12 (NIV) - I boldened some.

    " 11 “Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me. 12 Rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you."

    Jesus also said to forgive, to love, to pray for, to bless, and to do good to those who are our "enemies." Since you judge me and insult me, I suppose I can apply the following verse as to Jesus telling me to love, forgive, pray for, bless, and do good to you as well as all the folk on the forum who insult me, hmm?

    Luke 6 (NIV) - I boldened all.

    "27 “But to you who are listening I say: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, 28 bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. 29 If someone slaps you on one cheek, turn to them the other also. If someone takes your coat, do not withhold your shirt from them. 30 Give to everyone who asks you, and if anyone takes what belongs to you, do not demand it back. 31 Do to others as you would have them do to you.

    32 “If you love those who love you, what credit is that to you? Even sinners love those who love them. 33 And if you do good to those who are good to you, what credit is that to you? Even sinners do that. 34 And if you lend to those from whom you expect repayment, what credit is that to you? Even sinners lend to sinners, expecting to be repaid in full. 35 But love your enemies, do good to them, and lend to them without expecting to get anything back. Then your reward will be great, and you will be children of the Most High, because he is kind to the ungrateful and wicked. 36 Be merciful, just as your Father is merciful. "


    So I just want to say to everyone insulting me or what I believe: I love you because of Jesus. I forgive you, and I will pray for you.


    Peace and may God bless you
  2. murpo's Avatar
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    Re: To my "enemies"
    Has Jesus or God ever talked to you? If so you're schizophrenic.

    EDIT: You said "Jesus claimed" blah blah, how do you know Jesus said these things? You don't, you read a story book which gets reworded so much it's like chinese whispers.

    If you believe in that you must believe I am a wizard with magical powers too.
    Last edited by murpo; 22-04-2012 at 15:20.
  3. Jacoti's Avatar
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    Re: To my "enemies"
    (Original post by murpo)
    Has Jesus or God ever talked to you? If so you're schizophrenic.
    I don't think she ever claimed that..
  4. murpo's Avatar
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    Re: To my "enemies"
    (Original post by Jacoti)
    I don't think she ever claimed that..
    Not saying she did, I'm just asking. A lot of religious people I talk to claim god or jesus has spoken to them (Obviously have mental issues if they are hearing voices)
  5. Artymess's Avatar
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    Re: To my "enemies"
    Yeh but I could quote large sections of Harry Potter, embolden sentences here and there, and get the same message across :holmes:
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    Re: To my "enemies"
    Dear Christianlady

    If you leave your religion at your home, and stop trying to tell us and others about it, we will leave you to your private worship. But once you begin to preach your delusions to our ears you offend our intellect and all that we consider our being, and for that we will fight you with every wish that makes us who we are.

    When you offer us Hell beyond this life we offer you Hell within it in return. When you condemn our sexualities, our romance, our fancies and our wants, our action, philosophies and defiances to divine arbitration, we in turn condemn your rituals, prayers and belligerence to human arbitration. To the harshest of argument, cruellest or mockery, most stinging logical rebuttal.

    Your quotations are insults to our reason, your prayers our attacks on our free will, your "forgiveness" intolerable to our personalities. These things are acts of war against us, and we want none of them.

    If your god and your religion will not tolerate us so, we will not tolerate it. You make yourself and your god our enemies, and we while you continue to do so we will wage war against you with thoughts and actions and advice.

    We believe in all that is good in humanity, in the beauty of individuals and the celebration of free will. We celebrate the gays as we do the straights because we believe all love is true love, and we celebrate the freedom of all people to hold whatever views they wish dear, regardless of how different they are to our own. And we also cherish that disagreement, that we may oppose each other but still respect each other's rights to digress. We will stand behind these principals and oppose any who would discriminate, force conformity, or condemn opposing views. You do these things and so we oppose you.

    Kind regards

    Secularists.
  7. canŵio's Avatar
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    Re: To my "enemies"
    i've think she's entitled to think how she does.

    i almost wish i had faith - because it would give my life so much more direction and courage. but i don't believe, and i don't think i ever will.

    you know what, there's nothing wrong with believing as long as it brings good, and you're willing to understand that others don't want to be preached to as much as you don't want to be abused.
  8. The_Lonely_Goatherd's Avatar
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    Re: To my "enemies"
    (Original post by Christianlady)
    Hello,

    I am basically copying and posting this from one thread that I wrote to make another one, because I have personally experienced several insults and mockery against me and what I believe.

    By the way, if anyone would like to check my background, a moderator most definitely can, because I have nothing to hide.

    Jesus is right. Jesus said that people would insult those who follow him, and it is true.

    Matthew 5:11-12 (NIV) - I boldened some.

    " 11 “Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me. 12 Rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you."

    Jesus also said to forgive, to love, to pray for, to bless, and to do good to those who are our "enemies." Since you judge me and insult me, I suppose I can apply the following verse as to Jesus telling me to love, forgive, pray for, bless, and do good to you as well as all the folk on the forum who insult me, hmm?

    Luke 6 (NIV) - I boldened all.

    "27 “But to you who are listening I say: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, 28 bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. 29 If someone slaps you on one cheek, turn to them the other also. If someone takes your coat, do not withhold your shirt from them. 30 Give to everyone who asks you, and if anyone takes what belongs to you, do not demand it back. 31 Do to others as you would have them do to you.

    32 “If you love those who love you, what credit is that to you? Even sinners love those who love them. 33 And if you do good to those who are good to you, what credit is that to you? Even sinners do that. 34 And if you lend to those from whom you expect repayment, what credit is that to you? Even sinners lend to sinners, expecting to be repaid in full. 35 But love your enemies, do good to them, and lend to them without expecting to get anything back. Then your reward will be great, and you will be children of the Most High, because he is kind to the ungrateful and wicked. 36 Be merciful, just as your Father is merciful. "


    So I just want to say to everyone insulting me or what I believe: I love you because of Jesus. I forgive you, and I will pray for you.


    Peace and may God bless you
    Don't pay too much attention to people on here, hun. Those who try to stand up for Christianity often attract hostility and neg rep, coz people get rubbed up the wrong way. As proved by those negging this post. Gotta love it when haters prove my point

    Don't forget to post among your fellow believers in the X Soc


    (Original post by murpo)
    Has Jesus or God ever talked to you? If so you're schizophrenic.
    What a reductionist view :rolleyes:
    Last edited by The_Lonely_Goatherd; 22-04-2012 at 16:57.
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    Re: To my "enemies"
    (Original post by The_Lonely_Goatherd)
    Don't pay too much attention to people on here, hun. Those who try to stand up for Christianity often attract hostility and neg rep, coz people get rubbed up the wrong way.

    Don't forget to post among your fellow believers in the X Soc




    What a reductionist view :rolleyes:
    thanks.
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    Re: To my "enemies"
    I wasn't insulting; merely calling a spade a spade. Your theology and ethics are disgusting.
  11. BritGirl's Avatar
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    Re: To my "enemies"
    I don't know why you created this thread...you're just going to get more insults and mockery.
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    Re: To my "enemies"
    meh... don't care: never will.
  13. Foghorn Leghorn's Avatar
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    Re: To my "enemies"
    (Original post by murpo)
    Has Jesus or God ever talked to you? If so you're schizophrenic.

    EDIT: You said "Jesus claimed" blah blah, how do you know Jesus said these things? You don't, you read a story book which gets reworded so much it's like chinese whispers.

    If you believe in that you must believe I am a wizard with magical powers too.
    Well said!^^^
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    Re: To my "enemies"
    I quote:

    Ezekiel 25:17. - "The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the iniquities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is The Lord when I lay my vengeance upon you."
  15. Markus4's Avatar
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    Re: To my "enemies"
    (Original post by BritGirl)
    I don't know why you created this thread...you're just going to get more insults and mockery.
    Thats exactly the point of it
    I think it is pretty self evident that thats all this thread is for.

    I think we should abstain from insulting her so that she doesnt get what she wants, whoes with me?? :P
  16. lukas1051's Avatar
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    Re: To my "enemies"
    I appreciate that you are only trying to help people, but I don't think this is the place for it. You hold a lot of (no offence) old fashioned views that the majority of people on TSR (ie. students) simply do not care about or believe in. You make really long, boring posts in which you quote dozens of Bible verses, under the impression that we care what is written in the Bible. The Bible is a fictional book, and I do not care what is written in it, and neither do most people on here. I suppose what I'm trying to say is you don't seem to be on the same wavelength as most TSR users. I have absolutely nothing against you personally, I just think you're trying to convince the wrong group of people, and maybe you should stick to the Christian Society thread (if it means anything, I find people who relentlessly post about Islam, atheism, whatever just as irritating).
    Last edited by lukas1051; 22-04-2012 at 16:13.
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    I'll consult Mr Parker on the matter OP
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    Re: To my "enemies"
    (Original post by murpo)
    Has Jesus or God ever talked to you? If so you're schizophrenic.
    I can't believe the idiots that are on TSR these days, get out of the religion forum and return when you have developed some intelligence.
  19. murpo's Avatar
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    Re: To my "enemies"
    (Original post by EffieFlowers)
    I can't believe the idiots that are on TSR these days, get out of the religion forum and return when you have developed some intelligence.
    So it's normal if people are hearing voices telling them to do things? You must be a nutcase too. I think the stupid people here are the ones that believe in a storybook, because someone doesn't believe in your religion you label them an "idiot", bwhahahaha.
    Last edited by murpo; 22-04-2012 at 17:06.
  20. Gofre's Avatar
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    Re: To my "enemies"
    Why would we want to check your background? :lolwut:

    The reason you have experienced insults and mockery is because some of the things you have said are deserving of them.
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