[kenclarke]

firstly I'd like to say I am not anti-gay and don't mean to offend anyone. I have a right to voice my opinion in any matter i wish. THIS IS NOT HATE SPEECH. this is about the UK, so don't bring up any other country.

now with buses carrying banners saying " he is gay deal with it" , what on earth is the equality act for . homosexuals act as if they are being systematically targeted by the public, the truth is that the public is very tolerant towards homosexuals. some people don't like people who spit, should they form a group to advocate against discrimination, NO. homosexuals don't get discriminated in the work place. and since when did primary school kids talk about sex. whenever a crime happens eg murder as soon as its found out that they deceased is homosexual its a hate crime, even though it had nothing to do with it.

so now with left speaking through their new proxy group the public is seeing history repeat itself. first its the awareness. next its the " homosexuals are disadvantaged in the work place". then its " we need to set up a scheme to help disadvantaged homosexuals, checks are not required because homosexuals are good people". if the last one happens they'll become public enemy number one. I know homosexuals that hate being looked at differently. they like the stuff I do but like men. and don't think the right is anti-gay UKIP has a gay MEP.

[Martyn*]

homosexuals don't get discriminated in the work place

I think you'll find that they sometimes do.

[alexs2602]

I don't agree, I'm sorry. A lot of people are tolerant but there is still intolerance/ignorance for LGBT people in society among all generations. Although it's slowly dying out with each new generation the older generations still retain this prejudice. It(the campaign) is aimed at everyone, I knew and know of people who are ignorant about homo/bi/pansexuality.

There's also a difference between toleration and accepting someone as if they were anyone else. And the latter is a long way off.

[kenclarke]

(Original post by Martyn*)
homosexuals don't get discriminated in the work place

I think you'll find that they sometimes do.

maybe one or tow individual cases but not in general

[Martyn*]

(Original post by kenclarke)
maybe one or tow individual cases but not in general

One or two? I think that there are a lot more than that reported, and probably just as many unreported.

[Tommyjw]

(Original post by kenclarke)
maybe one or tow individual cases but not in general

'In general' people dont get murdered, or robbed, or shouted at with racist abuse etc. Doesnt mean it isnt an issue.

[kenclarke]

(Original post by alexs2602)
I don't agree, I'm sorry. A lot of people are tolerant but there is still intolerance/ignorance for LGBT people in society among all generations. Although it's slowly dying out with each new generation the older generations still retain this prejudice. It(the campaign) is aimed at everyone, I knew and know of people who are ignorant about homo/bi/pansexuality.

There's also a difference between toleration and accepting someone as if they were anyone else. And the latter is a long way off.

but isn't that human nature people will hate people till the end of time. homosexuals have it good now than they did 100 years ago.

[Bellissima]

you must be living in some kind of fairytale bubble, because homosexuals DO get discriminated against in the country. they do face intolerance. they face rejection for being who they are. just because it is not as bad as it is in countries like america or even worse uganda etc. does not mean it should not be tackled.


they are still not even allowed to marry!


and i'm sorry but saying "don't mention any other country" is pathetic, people need to be aware of what happens in other countries and campaigns supporting gay rights help that.

i can't stand people who try to trivialise the situation and try to make gays out to be some kind of whiny group who want more than equality because it simply isn't true and homosexual rights are very relevant today, in this country. there needs to be more awareness and education.


and you talk about primary school kids, i remember even when i was back at primary being gay was seen as "gross" and people were made fun of for "being gay" (as an insult)... my cousin who is 7 years old said "eww that is gross" when i told her will young was gay after she asked why he was with a man in his music video. children are not stupid or as ignorant/unaware as people like to think.

[HJFSS]

The very fact that you made this thread shows that homophobia is alive and well.

[DarkWhite]

(Original post by kenclarke)
firstly I'd like to say I am not anti-gay and don't mean to offend anyone. I have a right to voice my opinion in any matter i wish. THIS IS NOT HATE SPEECH. this is about the UK, so don't bring up any other country.

now with buses carrying banners saying " he is gay deal with it" , what on earth is the equality act for . homosexuals act as if they are being systematically targeted by the public, the truth is that the public is very tolerant towards homosexuals. some people don't like people who spit, should they form a group to advocate against discrimination, NO. homosexuals don't get discriminated in the work place. and since when did primary school kids talk about sex. whenever a crime happens eg murder as soon as its found out that they deceased is homosexual its a hate crime, even though it had nothing to do with it.

so now with left speaking through their new proxy group the public is seeing history repeat itself. first its the awareness. next its the " homosexuals are disadvantaged in the work place". then its " we need to set up a scheme to help disadvantaged homosexuals, checks are not required because homosexuals are good people". if the last one happens they'll become public enemy number one. I know homosexuals that hate being looked at differently. they like the stuff I do but like men. and don't think the right is anti-gay UKIP has a gay MEP.

I'll try and break this down, but having a slow day and not being very coherent in speech let alone typing!

Not everybody is in support of banners on buses; I appreciate why the campaign was run, and it was fine just the once, but we've had, "God probably doesn't exist, get over it.", "Some people are gay, get over it.", and nearly, "Not gay. Anti-gay, exgay. Get over it" or whatever the campaign was. Frankly, I'm bored of it. It's turning into a marginally less intelligent version of the, "Keep calm and carry on" campaign.

The Equality Act exists to prevent people from being subject to negative discrimination in the workplace because of certain characteristics which frankly, are not grounds for discrimination.

Not all homosexuals feel they're being targeted by the public. However, many do, and they often have a very good reason for doing so. I've been in night clubs when two guys have been kissing on the side of the dance floor and been assaulted; whereas the opposite-gender couple in the corner having sex (literally) are left to it. You could see why that would be annoying.

I'd have no issue with an anti-spit group forming, if they felt so passionately about the issue.

Homosexuals sometimes do get discriminated in the workplace. I've been in workplaces where it's happened, sometimes it can just be subtle as well, rather than an overt verbal or physical abuse.

I distinctively remember talking about sex in primary school (we actually had sex education then tbf); but what's that got to do with anything?

It's not automatically attributed a hate crime when it's found a victim was a homosexual person. The same reason it's not always attributed a hate crime when a black, ginger, or transvestite dies. Some media outlets might portray it like this, but probably the same media that blame house price changes on immigration.

Your last paragraph makes little sense. "checks are not required because homosexuals are good people"? this just isn't, and never will be, the case. Awareness of the unfair and unjust discrimination many LGBT people receive is justified in prevention, and the Equality Act including sexual orientation as well as gender, race, religion, and so forth is a fantastic step forwards for the community.

I don't follow what you're saying about UKIP..

[Subrak]

Why are people discriminated against..?
People scorn that what they do not understand - Perhaps this doesn't happen as much as it used to (With the Witch-Burnings, etc) but it still happens.
I blame Religion myself. I don't think there's any religion out there that doesn't believe in Gay Relationships. And Religion, as we all know, rules the world.

[Clare~Bear]

Whats your point and the point of this thread?
You didnt ask a question and you stated things as facts when they're wrong. Homophobia shouldnt happen anywhere but of course homophobic bosses and colleagues are going to discriminate against gay workers if the boss employs them in the first place. And of course the police dont think every gay person murdered was killed by a homophobic, the media report them more cos it's more interesting news.

[Pi!]

(Original post by kenclarke)
maybe one or tow individual cases but not in general

Are you a member of the LGBT community? If not, then how would you know if they are discriminated against.

[RandZul'Zorander]

(Original post by kenclarke)
firstly I'd like to say I am not anti-gay and don't mean to offend anyone. I have a right to voice my opinion in any matter i wish. THIS IS NOT HATE SPEECH. this is about the UK, so don't bring up any other country.

What do you want? a medal?

now with buses carrying banners saying " he is gay deal with it" , what on earth is the equality act for . homosexuals act as if they are being systematically targeted by the public, the truth is that the public is very tolerant towards homosexuals. some people don't like people who spit, should they form a group to advocate against discrimination, NO. homosexuals don't get discriminated in the work place. and since when did primary school kids talk about sex. whenever a crime happens eg murder as soon as its found out that they deceased is homosexual its a hate crime, even though it had nothing to do with it.

I don't know what world you are living in...but there are definitely still stigma's, discrimination, and such occurring. Young children are not blind. They see relationships and see when one type is looked down upon. Their observations influence how they tease, bully, and insult one another. I have seen and heard many young children use being 'gay' as an insult. Why? Because it's not something that people see as 'acceptable'. Don't be all high and mighty saying that homosexuals are treated and seen equally.

[NYU2012]

(Original post by kenclarke)
firstly I'd like to say I am not anti-gay and don't mean to offend anyone. I have a right to voice my opinion in any matter i wish. THIS IS NOT HATE SPEECH. this is about the UK, so don't bring up any other country.

To the bolded part:
(1) Actually, you do not.
(2) Do you want a cookie?

To the italicized part:
(1) That's a very arbitrary statement
(2) Such a statement implies that in the UK homosexual people are disliked only for the reasons you've stated - which is false. In all actuality, I don't think any of your post pointed to why homosexual people are discriminated against. In fact, it came off as more of useless rant rather than something containing any sort of useful information.
(3) In concordance with (1), why is it that only the UK matters?

(Original post by kenclarke)
now with buses carrying banners saying " he is gay deal with it" , what on earth is the equality act for . homosexuals act as if they are being systematically targeted by the public, the truth is that the public is very tolerant towards homosexuals. some people don't like people who spit, should they form a group to advocate against discrimination, NO. homosexuals don't get discriminated in the work place. and since when did primary school kids talk about sex. whenever a crime happens eg murder as soon as its found out that they deceased is homosexual its a hate crime, even though it had nothing to do with it.

Homosexuals don't get discriminated in the work place? Have you been living under a rock? A very large rock?

Fact of the matter is that homosexuals are discriminated against in any number of places by any number of people. for any number of reasons.

Also, your lack of good grammar makes this very difficult to read and, for the most part, I have no idea what you're trying to say -- periods are in strange places, things are not capitalized, commas are used very strangely and so on.

[murpo]

(Original post by RandZul'Zorander)
What do you want? a medal?

Could I have one please?

[RandZul'Zorander]

(Original post by murpo)
Could I have one please?

[steve_holt]

"the truth is that the public is very tolerant towards homosexuals. some people don't like people who spit, should they form a group to advocate against discrimination"

did you really just make that comparison? you are a very special child

[alexs2602]

(Original post by kenclarke)
but isn't that human nature people will hate people till the end of time. homosexuals have it good now than they did 100 years ago.

It's in human nature to be scared of what they don't know. And when people are scared or don't understand something they lash out, or make inaccurate assumptions which lead to misunderstanding something and anger/hate.

[zoeaw]

Tbh, I still don't understand how the bus ad was supposed to increase tolerance or help gay people in any way.