Immigration controls should be lifted.
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Immigration controls should be lifted.All immigration restrictions worldwide should be lifted. You are born on this planet and should be free to roam/live wherever you want on this planet. If you are born on a tropic island but like snow and mountains you should be able to move to the Alps and if you like hot weather and live in a cold country you should be able to move to a hotter place. The only people whose movement should be limited are those who are dangerous to others. This means those who [1] carry contagious disease, and those who [2] are violent criminals and should be in prison.
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Re: Immigration controls should be lifted.You do realise this would massively change the world right? The Mexican national party would win the US election and declare the US part of Mexico. Mexico would then take over the world.
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Re: Immigration controls should be lifted.Isn't that kind of like saying that allowing free movement between Buckinghamshire and London would allow a politician from Bucks become Mayor of London and then declaring it part of Buckinghamshire? I deem both scenerios very unlikely for numerous reasons.(Original post by internetguru)
You do realise this would massively change the world right? The Mexican national party would win the US election and declare the US part of Mexico. Mexico would then take over the world.
Of course this is just one of a number of hypothetical scenarios.
Anyway, about the original question, yes, call me crazy but I think the abolition of borders on a global scale is desirable. However, I don't think it would be practical unless all countries did so simulanieously; which I deem unlikely unless some kind of New World Order takes place, which I think is inevitable really, assuming we don't end up killing ourselves. -
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Re: Immigration controls should be lifted.Have to say, I agree with you. There are lots of people saying it's a stupid idea with no real reasons, I think it's impractical/impossible, but why not desirable? Since most people want equal opportunities/standard of living everywhere in the world, this would definitely bring us closer ...(Original post by The Socktor)
Isn't that kind of like saying that allowing free movement between Buckinghamshire and London would allow a politician from Bucks become Mayor of London and then declaring it part of Buckinghamshire? I deem both scenerios very unlikely for numerous reasons.
Anyway, about the original question, yes, call me crazy but I think the abolition of borders on a global scale is desirable. However, I don't think it would be practical unless all countries did so simulanieously; which I deem unlikely unless some kind of New World Order takes place, which I think is inevitable really, assuming we don't end up killing ourselves. -
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Re: Immigration controls should be lifted.Also the presumption is immigrants would have citizenship/voting rights. I don't buy any of the arguments about space either. There will certainly be a surge in demand for housing but this would mean homeowners would be able to sell their property for a larger fee and retire abroad if they wish. Poorer immigrants would rent and contractors would be encouraged to build new property if there was a stream of fresh immigrants coming into the country.(Original post by The Socktor)
Isn't that kind of like saying that allowing free movement between Buckinghamshire and London would allow a politician from Bucks become Mayor of London and then declaring it part of Buckinghamshire? I deem both scenerios very unlikely for numerous reasons.
Anyway, about the original question, yes, call me crazy but I think the abolition of borders on a global scale is desirable. However, I don't think it would be practical unless all countries did so simulanieously; which I deem unlikely unless some kind of New World Order takes place, which I think is inevitable really, assuming we don't end up killing ourselves. -
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Re: Immigration controls should be lifted.What a load of manure.(Original post by internetguru)
You do realise this would massively change the world right? The Mexican national party would win the US election and declare the US part of Mexico. Mexico would then take over the world.
Of course this is just one of a number of hypothetical scenarios.
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Re: Immigration controls should be lifted.Where do you plan on putting these new properties?(Original post by Brutal Honesty)
Also the presumption is immigrants would have citizenship/voting rights. I don't buy any of the arguments about space either. There will certainly be a surge in demand for housing but this would mean homeowners would be able to sell their property for a larger fee and retire abroad if they wish. Poorer immigrants would rent and contractors would be encouraged to build new property if there was a stream of fresh immigrants coming into the country.
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Re: Immigration controls should be lifted.You do realise the population of the UK has increased drastically throughout history? Most of the UK is undeveloped actually, anyone who has been on a plane and looked down at the UK will know this. National parks can be protected, if farmers want to sell their land or convert it that's up to them. There's plenty of brownfield sites and ****holes like Wolverhampton, Stoke etc. which could do with new buildings and getting rid of old ones. As the price of housing goes up fewer people will want to come here so they'll go elsewhere.(Original post by Patriot Rich)
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Re: Immigration controls should be lifted.Problems which already very much exist all over the world. Security - never not been a problem ANYWHERE, same applies to finance, supply and demand and jobs. Society is already becoming more multicultural; cultural differences can be dealth with. Political problems exist, the aim would presumably be for democratic leaders everywhere.(Original post by nmudz_009)
Allow it. Security problems, financial problems, supply and demand problems, job problems, culture problems, organisational problems, political problems etc.... -
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Re: Immigration controls should be lifted.High-rise buildings, flats and apartments like cities. Who's to say everyone's going to come to England just because they have the choice to?(Original post by Patriot Rich)
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Re: Immigration controls should be lifted.Except that Buckinghamshire and London aren't countries so have no power. Mass uncontrolled immigration will have unimaginable consequences, just look at Israel. Those of us living in 1st world countries will be the ones that suffer the most. Our wages will drop, the NHS and welfare will have to be abolished. Our population will increase drastically and crime rates will soar. The country we have now will be in financial and economic ruin what happens next nobody knows.(Original post by The Socktor)
Isn't that kind of like saying that allowing free movement between Buckinghamshire and London would allow a politician from Bucks become Mayor of London and then declaring it part of Buckinghamshire? I deem both scenerios very unlikely for numerous reasons.
Anyway, about the original question, yes, call me crazy but I think the abolition of borders on a global scale is desirable. However, I don't think it would be practical unless all countries did so simulanieously; which I deem unlikely unless some kind of New World Order takes place, which I think is inevitable really, assuming we don't end up killing ourselves.
