Statement from the Rt. Hon. JPKC MP
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Re: Statement from the Rt. Hon. JPKC MPYou were, but I'll search through the forum later. There was a time when you behaved badly. You should JPKC a chance like we have. TopHat has specifically said that he wants to attract new members to the House. Do you think that your hate campaign is really going to help in that respect? No, it just makes your party looks like hypocrites.(Original post by xXedixXx)
So what? Resigning from Government doesn't mean anything; that's no punishment. He just doesn't put a title in his signature any more...
I cannot remember doing any thing "malicious" to the same degree as JPKC. Seen no evidence you just keep typing it..
He has resigned from his position in the Government and that is a punishment which he has imposed upon himself. -
Re: Statement from the Rt. Hon. JPKC MPI've explained to you that it is no punishment. I'm all for new members but when they prove themselves to be malicious people then they are not wanted here; as I said before. He's had his chance, and offended people; he then had another chance in the coalition and he's proven himself to be malicious once again. It's only a matter of time before he commits another unnecessary crime.(Original post by toronto353)
You were, but I'll search through the forum later. There was a time when you behaved badly. You should JPKC a chance like we have. TopHat has specifically said that he wants to attract new members to the House. Do you think that your hate campaign is really going to help in that respect? No, it just makes your party looks like hypocrites.
He has resigned from his position in the Government and that is a punishment which he has imposed upon himself. -
Re: Statement from the Rt. Hon. JPKC MPMalicious is not a word that should be banded about like that. What I did was a joke and, though obviously you wouldn't find it funny since it was at David's expense, you should be able to at least recognise that.(Original post by xXedixXx)
I've explained to you that it is no punishment. I'm all for new members but when they prove themselves to be malicious people then they are not wanted here; as I said before. He's had his chance, and offended people; he then had another chance in the coalition and he's proven himself to be malicious once again. It's only a matter of time before he commits another unnecessary crime.
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Re: Statement from the Rt. Hon. JPKC MPSounds like potential headlines for the next issue.(Original post by Morgsie)
JPKC hacked and altered David's Interview and has resigned from the Government but not the Coalition.
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Re: Statement from the Rt. Hon. JPKC MP
Much as it is good that you have apologised and offered your resignation from the government. It goes little distance and I emplore my colleagues within the government to take this matter seriously and start the proceedings to have you removed from the coalition. I don't feel the government should offer you any protection, or you be the one to start blackmailing the rest of the government. The way you have behaved is not acceptable and personally the sooner you're out of the coalition the better for the government and the better for the house.
You misled the coalition, you lied to us right through this scandal, insisting that it had nothing to do with it to the extent that discussions were afoot regarding how we should approach the Labour Party over the apparently "slanderous comments" made by its leader. You were happy to encourage us to seek the resignation of the leader of the opposition providing backing to a motion of condemnation for his actions. Even after the warning I posted saying that if those supporting it misjudged it (as it would have turned out) - those members would have little option but to resign.
You also allowed a member who had nothing to do with this to be suspended from his party for no reason whatsoever, and set in train a total dupe account check which you knew would provide a 'false reading.'
And in your defence, you say this
When we asked you whether you had anything to do with this scandal for which you could be at fault, you said quite clearly.I thought that David's reaction was hilarious
And when we said that David should not be making accusations without any evidence, you further backed your original comment with these little beauties:(Original post by JKPC)
Just to be completely clear, this has nothing at all to do with me
(Original post by JKPC)
I understand - he should definitely withdraw his accusationAnd then when a potential condemnation motion was being penned, you started suggesting lines to be included in the motion.(Original post by JKPC)
I agree. His conduct is just unbelievable, it's bad enough that he doesn't do anything good even when not throwing dirt around.
(Original post by JKPC)
this House stresses that the position should not be used as a platform to make personal attacks".
Though I still feel that you should not have taken action against a member when a case against them was unproven - as in Rory's situation, I apologise if I've said anything to you that may have been out of order in relation to your now proven allegations against JKPC.(Original post by davidmarsh01)
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I think your reaction is hilarious.
FYI, I'm JPKC and "emplore" is spelt with an 'i'.
With regards to the stuff you've posted: bfg. The truth is you got over excited and are now embarrassed. As for the claim that I wanted to condemn David, that's false. My suggestion was actually that you keep your crazy on hold and moderate your love for these bizarre polemics. -
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I agree largely with Matthew. The actual incident is one thing, but the continuous denying of it let an unwanted situation sustain itself for a while longer. You've therefore taken it out on david, forced an unneeded dupe check and generally wasted moderators time, wasted Metro's time in his investigation, caused many allegations against RoryS with him being the prime suspect for much of it (what a way to introduce a new member to the House, eh?), and generally let this whole fiasco burn on at the expense of others, meaning the loss of their time and, in some cases, respect in the House. That much is unexcusable.
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Re: Statement from the Rt. Hon. JPKC MPI normally don't agree with much of what you say but I agree with this.(Original post by JPKC)
I have so little respect for your opinion already, writing this response is an utter task. I'm in the Coalition to work on policy, not to please the feckless drones of TSR Labour. My "personality" is a problem for you, not for me, and that's quite reasonable because you know how little I think of you and your type in the MHoC. People who go parading around in fur coats with no knickers on - all noise, commotion, drama but very little ability to back it up (I'm yet to see your response in the Welfare Bill!). I did what I did to annoy people like yourself and I can cheerily say it worked. Should I have? Probably not. What is worth it? Absolutely. You guys have gone above and beyond in overreaction to what was a very tame dig at your hopeless leader.
Hopefully you can get over yourself and start being less shrill at some point.
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As per the announcement already made to the government, Jpkc is no longer a member of the coalition.
Whilst the joke was in jest, he failed to consider the ramifications of his actions on Rory and also engaged in deceit in regards to the coalition.
I trust that the House will now move on from this issue and look forward to getting back to policy debate. -
Re: Statement from the Rt. Hon. JPKC MPI felt at the time that it was the only thing to do - I'd provided an interview with him and only him and my answers had been falsified. I've apologised to Rory since and he understands where I was coming from.(Original post by Matthew_Lowson)
Though I still feel that you should not have taken action against a member when a case against them was unproven - as in Rory's situation, I apologise if I've said anything to you that may have been out of order in relation to your now proven allegations against JKPC.
I agree with your post - he may say we're taking it too far but he allowed the blame to go to Rory and evidently wanted me to resign - all because I accused him of something he actually did (not to mention he made me look like an idiot with my faked answers). Anyone that thinks this is acceptable needs to think again. -
Re: Statement from the Rt. Hon. JPKC MPNobody thinks that this is acceptable and I hope that you will see this from the prime minister's post.(Original post by davidmarsh01)
I felt at the time that it was the only thing to do - I'd provided an interview with him and only him and my answers had been falsified. I've apologised to Rory since and he understands where I was coming from.
I agree with your post - he may say we're taking it too far but he allowed the blame to go to Rory and evidently wanted me to resign - all because I accused him of something he actually did (not to mention he made me look like an idiot with my faked answers). Anyone that thinks this is acceptable needs to think again. -
Re: Statement from the Rt. Hon. JPKC MPI know right, I don't normally stray into this part of the forum. Scandals happen in real life too and are arguably exciting. They should put this into the next issue along with the views from both sides, I'd read it.(Original post by meenu89)
I must admit even I found this exciting, I was hooked.
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Re: Statement from the Rt. Hon. JPKC MPGood, and I am glad the PM has taken decisive action.(Original post by toronto353)
Nobody thinks that this is acceptable and I hope that you will see this from the prime minister's post. -
Re: Statement from the Rt. Hon. JPKC MPBravo.(Original post by JPKC)
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Congrats on acting like a dick as per usual and ruining something someone else worked hard on. -
Re: Statement from the Rt. Hon. JPKC MPThis is the full implications of your behavior, you resign and exit the Coalition. Possible Government collapse aswell, The Government and the Opposition have the exact amount of Seats.(Original post by JPKC)
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