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  1. callum9999's Avatar
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    Re: Food Myths
    (Original post by walterwhite123)
    VAT is on lots of things, essential and non-essential. It's a fairly indiscriminate tax when you look into it.
    Well it's largely still confined to the non-essentials (and I mean essential - not "I fancy a pasty") but yes, it is far less discriminate now than it originally was. It's just a sales tax - with a few exceptions - now.

    I don't really get what that has to do with my post though?
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    Low fat foods are always better for you (e.g) low fat yoghurt. To compensate for lower fat content the manufacturer will instead bump up the sugar content for taste.

    The need to drink 8 glasses of water a day. There is no real set amount you need. Just make sure your urine isn't too dark and you should be good to go.

    Eating too many eggs increases cholesterol. Honestly the eggs are really nutritious and a great way to start your day. Watched some thing on Ch4 about some woman only eating eggs (All meals!) for a few weeks. Her cholesterol went up a TINY amount and she was fine-albeit sick of eating only eggs.

    Fattening foods mean you gain weight fast! No. Weight gain is actually a slow process. You require an extra 3500 calories on top of your maintenance calories to gain 1lb of fat. Likewise you need a 3500 deficit to lose weight.
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    Re: Food Myths
    (Original post by zippyRN)
    there is no such thing as 'high sugar diabetes' or 'low sugar diabetes'

    there are two types of diabetes mellitus

    type 1 is where the pancreas stops producing insulin

    type 2 is where the body has become resistant to insulin

    also 'type 2' DM does not become 'type1' just becasue the only way to achieve glycaemic control is by exogenous insulin.
    High sugar diabetes and low sugar diabetes are branches of type 2 diabetes and they do exist because my stepmother has low sugar diabetes and having low sugar or high sugar makes a huge difference.
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    Re: Food Myths
    that aspartame is bad for you

    if it was bad why would htey put it in the healthy, low fat option?
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    Re: Food Myths
    (Original post by Dalek1099)
    High sugar diabetes and low sugar diabetes are branches of type 2 diabetes and they do exist because my stepmother has low sugar diabetes and having low sugar or high sugar makes a huge difference.
    Nothing you say is remotely true you scrote.
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    Re: Food Myths
    (Original post by I<3LAMP)
    Eating too many eggs increases cholesterol. Honestly the eggs are really nutritious and a great way to start your day. Watched some thing on Ch4 about some woman only eating eggs (All meals!) for a few weeks. Her cholesterol went up a TINY amount and she was fine-albeit sick of eating only eggs.
    This! It annoys me so much how people still think they're really unhealthy for you - they're an easy way to get quite a lot of things that can be hard to find in foods in decent amounts and I tend to find they fill me up quite nicely - it is the fat in foods that tends to have more of an affect on it, particularly a certain kind of fat (which I can't remember right now, with all the terms like mono and poly(un)saturated fat etc, I keep getting confused as to which is good/bad etc), I think it said? So if you fried say 3 eggs up in a lot of really unhealthy oil - the oil is probably going to be the worst culprit.
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    Re: Food Myths
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    that aspartame is bad for you

    if it was bad why would htey put it in the healthy, low fat option?
    Passed as safe by every major country in the world, but people still insist it will kill you.
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    Not really a myth but there's still a massive misconception that being vegetarian means everything tastes horrible and you miss out on all the nutrients you get from meat like proteins, which you can very easily get from beans and the like.
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    Not really a myth but there's still a massive misconception that being vegetarian means everything tastes horrible and you miss out on all the nutrients you get from meat like proteins, which you can very easily get from beans and the like.
    True. Plus vegetarians live longer.
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    Re: Food Myths
    (Original post by Dalek1099)
    High sugar diabetes and low sugar diabetes are branches of type 2 diabetes and they do exist because my stepmother has low sugar diabetes and having low sugar or high sugar makes a huge difference.
    I'm sorry you are talking utter rot here, there is No such thing as 'high sugar diabetes' and 'low sugar diabetes' .

    I have never encountered these terms as a description of a type of diabetes disease process in all my 14 years as a Health professional, having cared for several thousand pateitns with diabetes , including all sorts of diabetic emergencies when working in the Emergency department or on Acute Assessment areas.
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    (Original post by SHABANA)
    You need to stop thinking you know everything. I have a degree in Biology. When people refer to diabetes as having blood sugar which is too high, many people who haven't studied science just associate that with eating sweet things. That is the point I was making. Having too much Glucose CAN lead to diabetes, that's why type II is much more common in people who are overweight and don't do exercise. If you don't know this then I suggest you go and revise.
    In reply to your other posts - yes it can be things other than Glucose. I didn't say anywhere that it is only Glucose?
    With regards to intrinsic and extrinsic sugars - can you explain how the sugar will change in for example, an orange if I peel it and eat it, or if I juice it without adding anything to it?
    Someone else has probably already corrected you on this, but high blood sugar isn't caused by consuming too much glucose, or any sugars. When we eat any food it's converted into glucose for energy, and when the body fails to be able to process that glucose, too much of it remains in the bloodstream.

    And just for the record I don't have a degree at all and I haven't studied biology since I was 16.
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    (Original post by walterwhite123)
    Passed as safe by every major country in the world, but people still insist it will kill you.
    This.

    I'm so sick of people saying 'Ooh, if you knew what nasty chemicals were in the low sugar options you wouldn't go anywhere near them'. I do chemistry, I'm confident in reading around literature and making decisions based on science rather than scaremongering websites and I'm damn sure I know more about it than you do.
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    Re: Food Myths
    (Original post by moregano)
    Someone else has probably already corrected you on this, but high blood sugar isn't caused by consuming too much glucose, or any sugars. When we eat any food it's converted into glucose for energy, and when the body fails to be able to process that glucose, too much of it remains in the bloodstream.

    And just for the record I don't have a degree at all and I haven't studied biology since I was 16.
    Well if a person is healthy, their body can store any excess Glucose as Glycogen.
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    Re: Food Myths
    (Original post by zippyRN)
    I'm sorry you are talking utter rot here, there is No such thing as 'high sugar diabetes' and 'low sugar diabetes' .

    I have never encountered these terms as a description of a type of diabetes disease process in all my 14 years as a Health professional, having cared for several thousand pateitns with diabetes , including all sorts of diabetic emergencies when working in the Emergency department or on Acute Assessment areas.
    I found out the scientific name for low sugar diabetes it is hypoglycaemia.
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    (Original post by Dalek1099)
    I found out the scientific name for low sugar diabetes it is hypoglycaemia.
    That's not a type of diabetes...It's a term to describe blood glucose levels
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    Re: Food Myths
    (Original post by nutrition2012)
    That's not a type of diabetes...It's a term to describe blood glucose levels
    abnormal blood glucose levels=Diabetes
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    Re: Food Myths
    (Original post by Dalek1099)
    abnormal blood glucose levels=Diabetes
    "The most common forms of hypoglycemia occur as a complication of treatment of diabetes mellitus with insulin or oral medications. Hypoglycemia is less common in non-diabetic persons, but can occur at any age. Among the causes are excessive insulin produced in the body (hyperinsulinemia), inborn error of metabolism, medications and poisons, alcohol, hormone deficiencies, prolonged starvation, alterations of metabolism associated with infection, and organ failure."

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypoglycemia
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    Re: Food Myths
    (Original post by moregano)
    "The most common forms of hypoglycemia occur as a complication of treatment of diabetes mellitus with insulin or oral medications. Hypoglycemia is less common in non-diabetic persons, but can occur at any age. Among the causes are excessive insulin produced in the body (hyperinsulinemia), inborn error of metabolism, medications and poisons, alcohol, hormone deficiencies, prolonged starvation, alterations of metabolism associated with infection, and organ failure."

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypoglycemia
    Maybe that wasn't quite what I meant but low sugar diabetes does exist but is very rare and I hadn't heard of it until I read a leaflet about it about a year ago,when my mam was close to diabetes but it wouldn't have been useful anyway because my mam was close to high sugar diabetes and ironically not much later my stepmother was diagnosed with low sugar diabetes.
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    (Original post by Dalek1099)
    Maybe that wasn't quite what I meant but low sugar diabetes does exist but is very rare and I hadn't heard of it until I read a leaflet about it about a year ago,when my mam was close to diabetes but it wouldn't have been useful anyway because my mam was close to high sugar diabetes and ironically not much later my stepmother was diagnosed with low sugar diabetes.
    I think your misunderstanding is through how we health professionals have to simplify medical conditions so patients with no scientific knowledge could easily understand their own medical conditions and how to manage it.

    There is no such thing as low sugar diabetes but I'm guessing it was an analogy to explain your mother's condition. Diabetes is caused by insulin resistance or lack of insulin which impairs blood glucose homeostasis, if your mother injected too much insulin (if she has type 1 diabetes) then she would experience transient hypogylcaemia.
    Last edited by nutrition2012; 05-05-2012 at 14:58.
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    Re: Food Myths
    (Original post by nutrition2012)
    I think your misunderstanding is through how we health professionals have to simplify medical conditions so patients with no scientific knowledge could easily understand their own medical conditions and how to manage it.

    There is no such thing as low sugar diabetes but I'm guessing it was an analogy to explain your mother's condition. Diabetes is caused by insulin resistance or lack of insulin which impairs blood glucose homeostasis, if your mother injected too much insulin (if she has type 1 diabetes) then she would experience transient hypogylcaemia.
    It is my stepmother who has low sugar diabetes and no she hasn't used insulin before.There was a leaflet on it saying if you have some sort of shock to have orange juice to boost sugar levels etc.
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