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    I was walking in a park, and saw a Hiroshima memorial; got me thinking: do we need war? (based on the definition of more than 1,000 ppl killed, armed forces)

    There's Nazi Germany- we needed the war to stop Hitler- but at the cost of several thousands if not millions of civilians.

    So, I pose this question:
    Do we need war? or just stick to diplomacy?
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    Diplomacy is fantastic, but at the end of the day it all just amounts to words and persuasion.

    As much as I hate it, sadly I think there is probably always going to be a need for military action to be a possibility in resolving some of the tougher issues in the world.
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    Yes we need war!

    How else do we eliminate the scum? Stupid question.
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    Sometimes, but I think few people who need to go to war want to.
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    Sometimes, sadly, it is necessary to fight fire with fire.

    It's the last tool of diplomacy and should only ever be a last resort.
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    Unfortunately in many cases, such as in WW2, war is a necessary evil. There's a famous quote, can't remember where it comes from, roman times maybe, 'Let he who desires peace prepare for war'.
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    (Original post by butter_god)
    I was walking in a park, and saw a Hiroshima memorial; got me thinking: do we need war? (based on the definition of more than 1,000 ppl killed, armed forces)

    There's Nazi Germany- we needed the war to stop Hitler- but at the cost of several thousands if not millions of civilians.

    So, I pose this question:
    Do we need war? or just stick to diplomacy?
    You seem to be under the misapprehension that war is always some kind of official state of affairs that is one of a number of options presented to the leader of a country during an international crisis. That's sometimes how it happens - but more often than not, war is a natural reaction like heat+oxygen+fuel=fire.

    Sure - there's "Saddam doesn't abide by UN resolutions - let's go to war".

    But for every one of those, there will be an act of unprovoked aggression leading to an almost automatic war. After Pearl Harbour - where was the scope for diplomacy?
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    (Original post by butter_god)
    So, I pose this question:
    Do we need war? or just stick to diplomacy?
    Have you read this? Gives a pretty interesting spin on it. :holmes:

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    War is peace, Freedom is slavery, Ignorance is strength
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    (Original post by Clip)
    But for every one of those, there will be an act of unprovoked aggression leading to an almost automatic war. After Pearl Harbour - where was the scope for diplomacy?
    Where do you stand on the falklands war?

    I personally thing that too was an automatic response, they attack us we attack them. Can't understand how some people think we should have done nothing.
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    (Original post by Clip)
    You seem to be under the misapprehension that war is always some kind of official state of affairs that is one of a number of options presented to the leader of a country during an international crisis. That's sometimes how it happens - but more often than not, war is a natural reaction like heat+oxygen+fuel=fire.

    Sure - there's "Saddam doesn't abide by UN resolutions - let's go to war".

    But for every one of those, there will be an act of unprovoked aggression leading to an almost automatic war. After Pearl Harbour - where was the scope for diplomacy?
    I know people who always state that war isn't needed ect- so that's why I'm posing the question. I happen to believe it is necessary in some cases- sometimes totally unnecessary. I mean, look at the Iraq war; only done in pre-emptive defence they (US) say: but had they actually done their research, there were no weapons ect.

    War is a necessary evil, but only when all other resources have been wiped out.
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    I love war - without it COD wouldn’t have been made
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    (Original post by butter_god)
    I was walking in a park, and saw a Hiroshima memorial; got me thinking: do we need war? (based on the definition of more than 1,000 ppl killed, armed forces)

    There's Nazi Germany- we needed the war to stop Hitler- but at the cost of several thousands if not millions of civilians.

    So, I pose this question:
    Do we need war? or just stick to diplomacy?
    WAR!!!
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    (Original post by MyronGainesworth)
    I love war - without it COD wouldn’t have been made
    unfortunately, it's not possible to neg you twice in a row.
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    War is necessary and will exist for as long as human conflict exists. I only foresee a radical shift in human beings' perception of war and conflict when human beings bring the entire human race to the brink of oblivion through war. Maybe then shall we learn.
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    (Original post by butter_god)
    unfortunately, it's not possible to neg you twice in a row.
    Unfortunately I will never get over the embarrassment of belonging to the same species as you.
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    Sometimes war is inevitable and is necessary. If there was a war which I agreed with both politically and morally I would definitely fight for my country.

    I personally agree with this quote by Ernest Hemingway , ''Never think that war, no matter how necessary, nor how justified is not a crime''.
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    (Original post by MyronGainesworth)
    Unfortunately I will never get over the embarrassment of belonging to the same species as you.
    You mean monkey? Go for it mate. OO AA.
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    (Original post by arnoob)
    Sometimes war is inevitable and is necessary. If there was a war which I agreed with both politically and morally I would definitely fight for my country.

    I personally agree with this quote by Ernest Hemingway , ''Never think that war, no matter how necessary, nor how justified is not a crime''.
    I do like that quote- but isn't all war = crime- I wonder how leaders ect. could even justify the death toll? I would imagine they would be signing a different tune if their kid died, or was injured.
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    (Original post by butter_god)
    You mean monkey? Go for it mate. OO AA.
    you only insulted yourself here too. I said I belong to the same species as you...

    strong reading comprehension is strong
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    (Original post by MyronGainesworth)
    you only insulted yourself here too. I said I belong to the same species as you...

    strong reading comprehension is strong
    I happen to accept the theory of evolution, hence you could do with a bit of self acceptance too.

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