[willbee]

(Original post by fbear)
Umm, first time I've heard of this. Do you have a link where I can read more because wikipedia doesn't bring this up.

I read it in a book about racism. It was part of the "Very Short Introductions" Series published by the Oxford University Press. However, on further research it appears he was actually Phoenician so my bad:

http://www.britishmuseum.org/explore...s_severus.aspx

Here is what the British Museum has to say.

I've just been arguing in defence of black and Asian people who consider themselves British. Race and nationality are two seperate things but Pyramidologist is arguing that you cannot be black and British even if you've spent your whole life here, speak this language and have this culture.

He says that there were no black people here before 60 years ago and so no black people can consider themselves British. Most of my family have been here less than 60 years but I still consider myself British. This is my country and culture. I was born here and have lived here my entire life. Therefore I am British irregardless of where my ancestors where from.

[willbee]

(Original post by Pyramidologist)
He's just an Afrocentric troll. So far he has claimed the Celts were ''Black'', now Roman emperors according to him were. LMAO. He's just a self-hating black guy who hates being black so he will try to rob other races of their history.

There was nothing remotely Black about Septemus Severus. We have busts of him, he's clearly North African (Caucasoid) in appearance -



How the hell is this a black man?

Actually, you were saying black people cannot consider themselves British as their ancestry is not British. You claimed you could personally date you ancestry back 12000 years. You then said that black people have only been here in big numbers for 60 years and that the first account of black people in this country was in the 1600s.

In fact, there is evidence to suggest black people have existed in Britain for much longer than just at the start of the slave trade.

As for me calling Septemus Severus black, it was something I read somewhere a while back. "A Very Short Introduction to Racism" published by the Oxford University Press. I also cited this text in relation to black celts:

Ahmed Ali and Ibrahim Ali, The Black Celts: an Ancient African Civilization in Ireland and Britain (Cardiff, 1992)

Anyway, I'm done with this thread now. You're ignoring evidence that is significantly stronger than anything you've presented and you're clearly very racist and for that I pity you.

As for me being a self-hating black guy who is trying to rob other races of their history, that's a crock of ****e. I only referred to myself to argue against your suggestion that your ancestors must be British in order for you to be British. You said that most black people's ancestors haven't been living here for longer than 60 years so they cannot consider themselves British. Well my family have been in Britain for less than 60 years yet I am still British by birth, culture, language and nationality.

As for my own ancestral heritage: Irish and French. I'm not a self-hating black guy at all. I'm white. I just don't think that race makes a difference to Nationality. End of.

[madders94]

This is kind of related (just linked to the posts about stupid questions asked to people who are of a different race). I know a boy who is I think Sri Lankan by race, and I thought he'd moved here not long ago. A while ago we were talking and he said "I'm moving back home soon", and I said "Oh, to Sri Lanka?". He looked at me oddly and said "No, Hampshire". That was well and truly a moment for me

[Blutooth]

(Original post by Reform)
Lol, a friend of mine was shipped for 2 years and a bit because of his behavior in school. His parents told him it was a holiday and they left him loool.

Haha, lmao.

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You can be British as that is to do with nationality. However, you can't be english/welsh/scottish as that refers to ethnicity am I right? I prefer to refer to myself as British Asian/India though tbh. Don't see anything wrong with this. In the states you still see terms like African American and they have been living over there for far longer than asians in the UK.