Which injustices of the world really get to you?
Discuss issues that have a social and cultural impact, including but not limited to issues such as racism, teenage pregnancies, the social impact of religion, and the state of the education system.
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Re: Which injustices of the world really get to you?I love how this is seen as a much more pressing issue than any thing else(Original post by heymoriarty)
The air:crisp ratio in a bag of Walker's crisps.
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Re: Which injustices of the world really get to you?In all fairness, I disagree with aid myself, because I don't see "aid" as aid. I see it as a package, with lots of strings attached(Original post by FDR)
Now your really bull****ting. It is most often right leaning voices who complain the loudest when Britain increases it's foreign aid to help countries in poverty. -
Re: Which injustices of the world really get to you?It's unfortunate if you happen to be born in a war torn country but the plight of these countries is nothing to do with luck, they're undesirable places to live because the people who reside there are incapable of getting along. This is precisely the reason why we shouldn't be importing them in large numbers. Was it "luck" that wherever Anglo-Saxons emigrated in large numbers: i.e the U.S, Canada and Australia, they always landed on their feet and ended up living in prosperous countries that respected human rights? Nope. Success was more or less guaranteed because their cultural heritage provided them with the blueprint necessary to recreate a functioning democracy. Some peoples just seem to be unable to do this, so we should acknowledge it and prevent them from entering the UK.(Original post by FDR)
Of course there is. Did you have a say in where you were born? No, you didn't. Fortunately for you, you were born in a highly developed, rich country. Does a North Korean, Somalian, Libyan or Liberia decide where they are born? No, but they are born into abject poverty, in a situation where on an individual basis, there is little they can do to change their circumstances, and their best chance for a better life is to leave their country.
Maybe you should tell that to the victims of the Muslim rape gangs who have had their lives ruined as a consequence of the 'vibrant' multi-cultural society. I don't think they'd agree that immigration poses to threat to secular western society.Obviously you can't expect people to change overnight, but a lot of immigrants do make the effort, and have integrated into other societies very well - look at the many European Jews who fled Europe to the US, and the Mexicans and Cubans who also moved to the US. They have brought aspects of their culture to the US, but haven't attempted to change the institutions of the country. There will always be a few radicals, but they don't have the same mindset as all immigrants. Most immigrants to the UK would certainly not want Sharia law. Infact, immigration has posed no threat whatsoever to any western institutions so far.
These countries should be helping themselves out of poverty. Keeping African dictators in luxury cars doesn't do anything to solve world hunger.Now your really bull****ting. It is most often right leaning voices who complain the loudest when Britain increases it's foreign aid to help countries in poverty. -
Re: Which injustices of the world really get to you?Why not? It's true for more people than care to admit to it.(Original post by beepbeeprichie)
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Re: Which injustices of the world really get to you?Yeah, we'll all go out and hunt our own chickens, pigs etc... cause that would work...(Original post by silverjade)
MEAT = IGNORANCE
The thing that annoys me in this world is how ignorant some people can be.
The one that really gots to me is people who say 'err I can't eat that it still looks like a chicken!' Isnt this being ignorant?
If you are going to eat dead animals at least face up to the fact that that is what you are eatting.
I'm a vegetarian and obviously I disagree with people eatting meat but the main reason I disagree with it is not just because it's cruel but because this world has become such a place that allows people to be ignorant.
I think if you are going to eat meat you shouldnt be selective over what animal you eat for example saying I'll eat a chicken but not lamb because it's too cute.
And also I believe that if you are willing to eat it you should be willing to kill it and cook it all yourself too.
If you are more than happy to eat meat then you should be more than happy to kill it yourself because at the end of the day that is what you are doing.
Does anyone else agree with me on this one or am I alone with this particular opinion.
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Re: Which injustices of the world really get to you?
Made in Chelsea and TOWIE.
They are literally idiots who are filmed acting very poorly under the pretense that it is their real life. Why should they be rich/famous etc ? They are basically just normal people, they have no special talent or anything. ARGHGHG -
Re: Which injustices of the world really get to you?Why is eating meat being ignorant? Humans are omnivores, it's what we've evolved to eat.(Original post by silverjade)
MEAT = IGNORANCE
The thing that annoys me in this world is how ignorant some people can be.
The one that really gots to me is people who say 'err I can't eat that it still looks like a chicken!' Isnt this being ignorant?
If you are going to eat dead animals at least face up to the fact that that is what you are eatting.
I'm a vegetarian and obviously I disagree with people eatting meat but the main reason I disagree with it is not just because it's cruel but because this world has become such a place that allows people to be ignorant.
I think if you are going to eat meat you shouldnt be selective over what animal you eat for example saying I'll eat a chicken but not lamb because it's too cute.
And also I believe that if you are willing to eat it you should be willing to kill it and cook it all yourself too.
If you are more than happy to eat meat then you should be more than happy to kill it yourself because at the end of the day that is what you are doing.
Does anyone else agree with me on this one or am I alone with this particular opinion.
Aren't you just being ignorant of the food chain? People are entitled to choose what they eat for whatever reason. Why does eating meat have to be all or nothing?
Also, I'm sure if we were to abandon all modern society and go back to hunting our own food, people would be prepared to do more to survive than they are now. Everyone doesn't kill their own food because it isn't pleasant. I acknowledge that. And so does the animal kingdom - most animals don't kill other animals for the fun of it, when they kill them they eat them and they don't waste.
P.S. - I'm not saying vegetarianism is wrong, by all means if that's what you believe you're entitled to have your opinion, but don't have a go at other people for choosing to eat meat and which meats they want to eat. -
Re: Which injustices of the world really get to you?So, on a personal basis, it is down to luck - afterall, the process of immigration is an individual one, not one taken collectively by a nation. I never said that the state those countries are in was down to luck, but whether you are born into one or not is.(Original post by chefdave)
It's unfortunate if you happen to be born in a war torn country but the plight of these countries is nothing to do with luck, they're undesirable places to live because the people who reside there are incapable of getting along. This is precisely the reason why we shouldn't be importing them in large numbers. Was it "luck" that wherever Anglo-Saxons emigrated in large numbers: i.e the U.S, Canada and Australia, they always landed on their feet and ended up living in prosperous countries that respected human rights? Nope. Success was more or less guaranteed because their cultural heritage provided them with the blueprint necessary to recreate a functioning democracy. Some peoples just seem to be unable to do this, so we should acknowledge it and prevent them from entering the UK.
Maybe you should tell that to the victims of the Muslim rape gangs who have had their lives ruined as a consequence of the 'vibrant' multi-cultural society. I don't think they'd agree that immigration poses to threat to secular western society.
These countries should be helping themselves out of poverty. Keeping African dictators in luxury cars doesn't do anything to solve world hunger.
Regarding your rape gangs, don't be stupid - regardless of what the daily mail will have you believe, rape isn't imported, it has always been an issue - there are countless white british murderers, but does that mean that all white britons advocate, support or participate in murder? No.
Regarding aid - it's a difficult issue. I would agree that we shouldn't give the aid as budget support, a lot of which ends up being spent on weapons and not actually helping people, but I think that providing the money and expertise to build a decent infrastructure that the country can use themselves is beneficial. The west could also be less obstructive in helping such poor nations - for example, the UK's central agricultural policy (which accounts for over 40% of the EU's budget) means that importers in poorer countries reliant on agriculture suffer, and it means that inefficient producers within the EU benefit. Similar policies which benefit farmers in the US are the same. -
Re: Which injustices of the world really get to you?'aid' is quite an encompassing term, surely you can't disagree with the concept of aid?(Original post by de_monies)
In all fairness, I disagree with aid myself, because I don't see "aid" as aid. I see it as a package, with lots of strings attached
I disagree with budget support, giving money to governments, because a lot of it gets spent on weapons, and barely any reaches the people who need it most, but I can't disagree with ensuring it is spent on infrastructure within countries that need it, as well as on vitals like water/food/medicine. I mean surely you can't disagree with the aid that many charities have been providing in the horn of africa following the famine there? -
Re: Which injustices of the world really get to you?
Trafficking women and girls into the sex trade. I saw an interview with a trafficked girl aged about 12/13 in Cambodia (I think, or a neighbouring country) who had her eye gouged out by the brothel owners and was then dumped on the street

North Korea
Child abuse in general
Lack of support for disabled people and their carers
And on a less serious note - the hideous hike in the price of Freddo bars -
Re: Which injustices of the world really get to you?Yes of course. I tend to mean governmental aid, as opposed to a charity giving aid, and investing money on infrastructure, on the economy etc....(Original post by FDR)
'aid' is quite an encompassing term, surely you can't disagree with the concept of aid?
I disagree with budget support, giving money to governments, because a lot of it gets spent on weapons, and barely any reaches the people who need it most, but I can't disagree with ensuring it is spent on infrastructure within countries that need it, as well as on vitals like water/food/medicine. I mean surely you can't disagree with the aid that many charities have been providing in the horn of africa following the famine there?
Generally, when aid is mentioned, it's almost always governmental. There are parties in certain countries which dislike aid for the reasons you gave
He speaks specifically about aid at around the 6 minute markLast edited by de_monies; 28-04-2012 at 22:37.
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