Triumph of Elizabeth A2 AQA June 12th Exam

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  1. Sophyla's Avatar
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    Re: Triumph of Elizabeth A2 AQA June 12th Exam
    (Original post by OurDecemberSun)
    PARLIAMENTTTTTTT

    I could've cried big fat tears of joy when I saw that! Then I did the foreign policy question, not my strongest area but I argued the statement was valid because many of the other factors in the deterioration of relations were caused by or influenced by the Dutch war, such as new world trade which wouldn't necessarily have been necessary if trade with Antwerp hadn't been affected etc., does that sound okay?

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    I argued that and then said that other factors were also important in the deterioration such as trade, with Hawkins and co nicking the ships and Antwerp and stuff, Spanish involvement in Catholic Plots (Ridolfi ect) and something else that I honestly can't remember
    Last edited by Sophyla; 12-06-2012 at 16:13. Reason: I can't spell! ;)
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    (Original post by Sophyla)
    I argued that and then said that other factors were also important in the deterioration such as trade, with Hawkins and co nicking the ships and Antwerp and stuff, Spanish involvement in Catholic Plots (Ridolfi ect) and something else that I honestly can't remember
    I put in a paragraph on how Philip threatened security by getting involved with plots too, then somehow turned that on its head and said this was also caused by the war in the Netherlands - dunno how I managed that - then put in a paragraph on the involvement of France and how the lack of a 'French shield' deteriorated relations because it was partly because of that that the armada hadn't been sent before the treaty of joinville, but I didn't say that was as a result of the dutch war so my final conclusion was that the statement was mostly valid

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    Re: Triumph of Elizabeth A2 AQA June 12th Exam
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    I put in a paragraph on how Philip threatened security by getting involved with plots too, then somehow turned that on its head and said this was also caused by the war in the Netherlands - dunno how I managed that - then put in a paragraph on the involvement of France and how the lack of a 'French shield' deteriorated relations because it was partly because of that that the armada hadn't been sent before the treaty of joinville, but I didn't say that was as a result of the dutch war so my final conclusion was that the statement was mostly valid

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    Balls, I forgot to do that, I wrote it in my plan and everything! Phooey
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    (Original post by Sophyla)
    Balls, I forgot to do that, I wrote it in my plan and everything! Phooey
    Don't worry, there were a few things I scribbled on the sheet and just didn't have time to put them in, it won't have affected you too badly

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    Re: Triumph of Elizabeth A2 AQA June 12th Exam
    I got a C last year (woops...I was near a B waa) and an A for the coursework this year and will settle for a B in the exam and a B overall, and if I don't get that then I shall burn all examiners at the stake.

    I avoided the parliament question I didn't know a thing about that, I just avoided revising it because I find it so boring haha.
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    Re: Triumph of Elizabeth A2 AQA June 12th Exam
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    that was pants
    agreed.
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    Re: Triumph of Elizabeth A2 AQA June 12th Exam
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    Same! Somebody else said they did during completely different and I panicked :') I guess it's okay though as long as you argued your points effectively; that's the point of History after all
    SAME!
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    Re: Triumph of Elizabeth A2 AQA June 12th Exam
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    SAME!
    High five!
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    I did the royal authority decline and Parliament since my mind went blank on the fp one.... also I found it hard to remember all the fp with Spain ... I only remembered at the time... treaty of non such and peace of Troyes ....
    Should have seen my last paragraph lol... for Parliament I crammed the last ten yrs of Lizzy reign in 5 sentences with a brief overview of Essex, Tyrone and Robert Cecil ....
    My opening paragraph for the royal authority was epic though - I included almost everything on the backgrounds of what Edward inherited eg bad legacy, factionalism, debts,ongoing wars.... also john warrens argument of Henry viiis "pathetic...and belated search for personal glory" xD

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    Re: Triumph of Elizabeth A2 AQA June 12th Exam
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    I did the royal authority decline and Parliament since my mind went blank on the fp one.... also I found it hard to remember all the fp with Spain ... I only remembered at the time... treaty of non such and peace of Troyes ....
    Should have seen my last paragraph lol... for Parliament I crammed the last ten yrs of Lizzy reign in 5 sentences with a brief overview of Essex, Tyrone and Robert Cecil ....
    My opening paragraph for the royal authority was epic though - I included almost everything on the backgrounds of what Edward inherited eg bad legacy, factionalism, debts,ongoing wars.... also john warrens argument of Henry viiis "pathetic...and belated search for personal glory" xD

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    Sorry about this, but the Parliament question was on whether she had control or not? You needed to talk about factors such as the Religion aspect (talk about the Puritan Choir V Revisionists). Also you needed to talk about how Elizabeth had control - ie using her charm (December 1584 - allowing the MPs to leave early). The Golden Speech being something you needed to include (being forced to compromise) to get the range. Also what was your conclusion, since mine was she had the Royal Prerogative powers which she exercised in denying the Royal Assent and removing people such as Peter Wentworth.
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    Re: Triumph of Elizabeth A2 AQA June 12th Exam
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    Sorry about this, but the Parliament question was on whether she had control or not? You needed to talk about factors such as the Religion aspect (talk about the Puritan Choir V Revisionists). Also you needed to talk about how Elizabeth had control - ie using her charm (December 1584 - allowing the MPs to leave early). The Golden Speech being something you needed to include (being forced to compromise) to get the range. Also what was your conclusion, since mine was she had the Royal Prerogative powers which she exercised in denying the Royal Assent and removing people such as Peter Wentworth.
    I know this wasn't aimed at me, but I had a slightly different conclusion to you, I went for a more multi-branched conclusion. She had good relations on some things, like taxes as they never denied her a subsidy, she effectively controlled and manipulated them on some things, like the marriage issue, which she skated around a lot, and in the Golden speech, and they pushed her on some things, like religion and the monopolies issue. My conclusion ended up being about three quarters of one of those exam pages :eek:

    I hope I was right in all the assertions I made, because I basically just pieced together stuff that I remembered from the book. I didn't even realise parliament was such a big topic before I went into the exam.
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    Re: Triumph of Elizabeth A2 AQA June 12th Exam
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    I know this wasn't aimed at me, but I had a slightly different conclusion to you, I went for a more multi-branched conclusion. She had good relations on some things, like taxes as they never denied her a subsidy, she effectively controlled and manipulated them on some things, like the marriage issue, which she skated around a lot, and in the Golden speech, and they pushed her on some things, like religion and the monopolies issue. My conclusion ended up being about three quarters of one of those exam pages :eek:

    I hope I was right in all the assertions I made, because I basically just pieced together stuff that I remembered from the book. I didn't even realise parliament was such a big topic before I went into the exam.
    Just thought I'd say that everything you mentioned sounds relevant

    I made quite a big thing about the monopolies issue because that was the only time the Crown really lost control of parliament, but I also think the royal prerogative was important because it was over issues regarding that that she really put her foot down. Hopefully it all went well
    Last edited by SilverDoe21; 13-06-2012 at 18:29.
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    I didn't do the Parliament question, but a good historian quote from MacCaffrey on Cecil, "crowns manager on all parliamentary business". Really good if you did a paragraph that she lost control towards the latter stages of her reign with the 'Spanish War', and you would have made a synoptic link to her last years there.... that without William Cecil, she was stuffed.
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    Re: Triumph of Elizabeth A2 AQA June 12th Exam
    Hey guys, I did really well on the parliament question
    But the decline question went badly I didn't
    finish it, but the annoying thing is, I could have done
    really well! Does anyone have any advice? I'm finding
    it hard to let go of the disappointment. does anyone know the marks?
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    Re: Triumph of Elizabeth A2 AQA June 12th Exam
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    I didn't do the Parliament question, but a good historian quote from MacCaffrey on Cecil, "crowns manager on all parliamentary business". Really good if you did a paragraph that she lost control towards the latter stages of her reign with the 'Spanish War', and you would have made a synoptic link to her last years there.... that without William Cecil, she was stuffed.
    This is the only thing I'm really disappointed about in this exam, whilst I included the Queote you mentioned and that without Cecil and the problems of the final years, she could no longer manage Parliament. Unfortunately at this point I only had 5 minutes left and still had the conclusion to do. Would have loved to go on and suggest that it the Queen didn't have controll of Parliament but actually Cecil did, and would then counteract this by saying the Queen still
    appointed Cecil however, and the opposition was due to high levels of political grievances of the times using Penry Williams Quote to say that Parliament challenged these grievances. Oh Well i still wrote 14 pages.

    How did you think you did?
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    Re: Triumph of Elizabeth A2 AQA June 12th Exam
    (Original post by agoetcherian)
    I know this wasn't aimed at me, but I had a slightly different conclusion to you, I went for a more multi-branched conclusion. She had good relations on some things, like taxes as they never denied her a subsidy, she effectively controlled and manipulated them on some things, like the marriage issue, which she skated around a lot, and in the Golden speech, and they pushed her on some things, like religion and the monopolies issue. My conclusion ended up being about three quarters of one of those exam pages :eek:

    I hope I was right in all the assertions I made, because I basically just pieced together stuff that I remembered from the book. I didn't even realise parliament was such a big topic before I went into the exam.
    Yeah my conclusion was ultimately power came from the Queen and she peppered it with her councillors. I had no change over time which i'm disappointed with and i don't think i went in depth with the Golden Speech
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    (Original post by alvinator)
    Sorry about this, but the Parliament question was on whether she had control or not? You needed to talk about factors such as the Religion aspect (talk about the Puritan Choir V Revisionists). Also you needed to talk about how Elizabeth had control - ie using her charm (December 1584 - allowing the MPs to leave early). The Golden Speech being something you needed to include (being forced to compromise) to get the range. Also what was your conclusion, since mine was she had the Royal Prerogative powers which she exercised in denying the Royal Assent and removing people such as Peter Wentworth.
    Lol I think you misunderstood my paragraph... I meant for royal authority of Edward and Mary is where I did my epic introduction...
    For the actual Parliament question I included a lot of examples of how her privy council did object to her wishes, hence not much control such as the execution of Mary Stuart.... under strictly orders from Liz. Davison still went and showed the warrant of execution to be in order...(that's one example)
    Another would be about her religious settlement such as the vesterian controversy where Matthew Parker's advertisements of 1566 ... even though the rules were clear, he turned a blind eye etc

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    Re: Triumph of Elizabeth A2 AQA June 12th Exam
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    Lol I think you misunderstood my paragraph... I meant for royal authority of Edward and Mary is where I did my epic introduction...
    For the actual Parliament question I included a lot of examples of how her privy council did object to her wishes, hence not much control such as the execution of Mary Stuart.... under strictly orders from Liz. Davison still went and showed the warrant of execution to be in order...(that's one example)
    Another would be about her religious settlement such as the vesterian controversy where Matthew Parker's advertisements of 1566 ... even though the rules were clear, he turned a blind eye etc

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    But that's how Elizabeth was unable to control the Privy Council, not parliament. You could have said how the Council was often successful in controlling parliament, otherwise I'm not sure it's relevant Unless I'm misunderstanding what you mean
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    Re: Triumph of Elizabeth A2 AQA June 12th Exam
    Did anyone else do the parliament one and royal authority???

    i read the dates for the netherlands one and thought ..just no do the other one!

    I put about her not being in control towards the end with the whole ireland thing and the factionalism but then put that she was in control because by not giving power to Essex, Robert Cecil was then able to secure the succession..so yeah perhaps she was in full control because she still gave power to the right people

    the royal authority one was ehhh....just concluded how it declined to the extent that it would leave Elizabeth with a very difficult set of circumstances to overcome when she came the throne in 1558...

    ugh i just need a high B!!! hope everyone else did ok too
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    Re: Triumph of Elizabeth A2 AQA June 12th Exam
    (Original post by alvinator)
    Sorry about this, but the Parliament question was on whether she had control or not? You needed to talk about factors such as the Religion aspect (talk about the Puritan Choir V Revisionists). Also you needed to talk about how Elizabeth had control - ie using her charm (December 1584 - allowing the MPs to leave early). The Golden Speech being something you needed to include (being forced to compromise) to get the range. Also what was your conclusion, since mine was she had the Royal Prerogative powers which she exercised in denying the Royal Assent and removing people such as Peter Wentworth.
    omg i put the same thing about charm and the xmas of 1584 high five!
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