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Should gay people be allowed to adopt?

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    (Original post by mmmpie)
    'tis eerily familiar, although DYKWIA is more articulate.
    Perhaps slightly...

    (Original post by Jester94)
    Thought I would be fairly safe leaving the thread for one day while I revised for a Spanish oral...clearly not!
    Lol no. But NYU, Mmmpie, Mini, and myslef handled decently well I think. Hope your revising went well.

    I personally can't decide between Transcendence and green.tea
    They both lack some serious reasoning skills

    (Original post by NYU2012)
    He makes me want to bang my head against my desk/table repeatedly, until my brain turns to mush.
    They both make me want to do that
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    (Original post by NYU2012)
    He makes me want to bang my head against my desk/table repeatedly, until my brain turns to mush.
    Join Date: Oct 2011
    Location: New York University '12 --> Durham Law '15
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    Sweeeeeeet.
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    (Original post by green.tea)
    Sweeeeeeet.
    (Original post by green.tea)
    Video you posted
    Any relevance to the discussion?
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    (Original post by minimarshmallow)
    Any relevance to the discussion?
    Has anything he posted thus far been relevant to the discussion?
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    (Original post by NYU2012)
    He makes me want to bang my head against my desk/table repeatedly, until my brain turns to mush.
    Think he's invoking a fairly similar reaction in us all to be honest...


    (Original post by RandZul'Zorander)
    Lol no. But NYU, Mmmpie, Mini, and myslef handled decently well I think. Hope your revising went well.
    I know, how naive of me (but yes, the oral went fairly well I think, thank you)

    They both lack some serious reasoning skills
    Or the ability to debate like a normal human being.

    (Original post by green.tea)
    Sweeeeeeet.
    And what has that (or that video) got to do with anything? Have you finally abandoned your pretence of debate?
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    (Original post by Jester94)
    I know, how naive of me (but yes, the oral went fairly well I think, thank you)
    Well thats good!

    Or the ability to debate like a normal human being.
    True.
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    Having thought about this more I've decided that lesbians should be able to adopt boys and vice versa but a condition should be that they can give them a role model of the same gender. A family member willing to be actively involved. Taking them to the football on a weekend or something like that.
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    (Original post by green.tea)
    Having thought about this more I've decided that lesbians should be able to adopt boys and vice versa but a condition should be that they can give them a role model of the same gender. A family member willing to be actively involved. Taking them to the football on a weekend or something like that.
    Out of curiosity why must it be a family member? What about family friends? Or religious or community leaders?
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    (Original post by RandZul'Zorander)
    Out of curiosity why must it be a family member? What about family friends? Or religious or community leaders?
    Someone close enough to make a commitment. So it'd have to be a very close friend. Not like scouts or something with a big group tho.
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    (Original post by green.tea)
    Someone close enough to make a commitment. So it'd have to be a very close friend. Not like scouts or something with a big group tho.
    Ok but why? There are heterosexual couple's where one parent is rarely present due to work or other things...do you think that those couple's wishing to adopt should have to prove that they can provide a 'substitute'?
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    (Original post by RandZul'Zorander)
    Ok but why? There are heterosexual couple's where one parent is rarely present due to work or other things...do you think that those couple's wishing to adopt should have to prove that they can provide a 'substitute'?
    I think any people wanting to adopt should, and probably do have to be able to show that they can spend a reasonable amount of time with the child. If they cant I don't think they should be able to adopt at all.
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    (Original post by green.tea)
    I think any people wanting to adopt should, and probably do have to be able to show that they can spend a reasonable amount of time with the child. If they cant I don't think they should be able to adopt at all.
    That's irrelevant. I asked would you say the same for a heterosexual couple who the father travels consistently for work? Because I am almost 100% positive that such a couple can in fact adopt.
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    Although then theres boarding schools..

    Although why would anyone wanna adopt just t send the kid off to a boarding school?

    Anyway allowing that without my role model idea and the smoking ban would mean more disadvantaged kids got to good schools.
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    (Original post by RandZul'Zorander)
    That's irrelevant. I asked would you say the same for a heterosexual couple who the father travels consistently for work? Because I am almost 100% positive that such a couple can in fact adopt.
    Well if the fathers always away I dont think they should be able to adopt any more than a single woman could.

    Bording school tho since they probably have £
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    (Original post by green.tea)
    Well if the fathers always away I dont think they should be able to adopt.
    Your positions make absolutely no sense. You say that a homosexual couple which according to you has no father should be required to find a 'substitute' essentially but a heterosexual couple where the father will be busy providing for his family and the adoptive child shouldn't be allowed to adopt at all? I think I'm going to just stop with you now. Nothing you say is at all consistant not to mention you refuse to accept anyone's opinion except your own, despite evidence that myself and other's have provided that contradict your opinions. So...until you are ready to reasonably debate and examine sources as others have so courteously done with you, we are done
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    (Original post by RandZul'Zorander)
    Your positions make absolutely no sense. You say that a homosexual couple which according to you has no father should be required to find a 'substitute' essentially but a heterosexual couple where the father will be busy providing for his family and the adoptive child shouldn't be allowed to adopt at all? I think I'm going to just stop with you now. Nothing you say is at all consistant not to mention you refuse to accept anyone's opinion except your own, despite evidence that myself and other's have provided that contradict your opinions. So...until you are ready to reasonably debate and examine sources as others have so courteously done with you, we are done
    I don't need to examine articles about what great male role models women make.

    If both the couple dont ant the child enough to make time they dont care enough.

    My position is a reasonable one.

    And the reason im not consistent is that i struggle to become entrenched in viewpoints. You should try it. I reckon if what you think about a complex issue after thinking about it for 5 mins is the same as what you think after an hour your either a genius or an idiot.
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    (Original post by green.tea)
    I don't need to examine articles about what great male role models women make.
    And why not? Why do we have to look at your ridiculous 'sources' that don't even show what you think they do yet you can't show the same courtesy to read the evidence we provide? You are a moron and need to learn how debate works.

    My position is a reasonable one.
    Based on what? Not the evidence seeing as you refuse to even look at it.

    And the reason im not consistent is that i struggle to become entrenched in viewpoints. You should try it. I reckon if what you think about a complex issue after thinking about it for 5 mins is the same as what you think after an hour your either a genius or an idiot.
    I don't post on something that is complex after thinking for only 5 minutes. In fact I wouldn't post unless I had done some basic research and had a basic understanding of what is involved in the subject, so I can back my opinion with real facts. But I guess you can't do that. I don't develop an opinion on something so quickly without actually knowing the facts on it.
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    (Original post by RandZul'Zorander)
    And why not? Why do we have to look at your ridiculous 'sources' that don't even show what you think they do yet you can't show the same courtesy to read the evidence we provide? You are a moron and need to learn how debate works.
    Because its *******s. Males choose male role models. You'd do well to stop resting your position on that.

    Based on what? Not the evidence seeing as you refuse to even look at it.
    It put the childs needs first while being as fair as is possible to couples.

    I don't post on something that is complex after thinking for only 5 minutes. In fact I wouldn't post unless I had done some basic research and had a basic understanding of what is involved in the subject, so I can back my opinion with real facts. But I guess you can't do that. I don't develop an opinion on something so quickly without actually knowing the facts on it.
    Women make good male role models is a fact is it? Backed up by all those kids with victoria beckhams surname on their football shirts I take it?
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    (Original post by green.tea)
    Although why would anyone wanna adopt just t send the kid off to a boarding school?
    I'm not a big fan of boarding schools in general, but they don't in themselves stop the parents from giving their children love and affection, and those children would still have a better education and probably life overall than if they had stayed in the foster care system.
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