Current Year 12 Thread Mark VI
Discussion for A-Level students and for those choosing their A-Level subjects.
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Re: Current Year 12 Thread Mark VIYou sounds like a mafia boss.(Original post by Maths_Lover)
I'm going to school for a while soon as I have some business to sort out. I'll do the questions when I get back.
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Re: Current Year 12 Thread Mark VIHappens to the best of us. Here's something else to keep you up.(Original post by Maths_Lover)
Thank you very much.
I do like to see different ways of solving the same problem. 
I do but I am currently going through a phase of irregular sleeping.
I'll sort it out soon, hopefully. 
I'm going to school for a while soon as I have some business to sort out. I'll do the questions when I get back.
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A polyhedron is a solid bounded by F plane faces, which meet in E edges and V vertices. You may assume Euler’s formula, that V − E + F = 2.
In a regular polyhedron the faces are equal regular m-sided polygons, n of which meet at each vertex. Show that:

where
By considering the possible values of h, or otherwise, prove that there are only five regular polyhedra.
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Re: Current Year 12 Thread Mark VISo(Original post by Blutooth)
In a regular polyhedron the faces are equal regular m-sided polygons, n of which meet at each vertex.
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I take this to mean that for each of the m faces on the polyhedron, each m will meet the vertices n times? (So that mF counts the vertices n times?)
Edit: nvm, it does workLast edited by Llewellyn; 31-05-2012 at 12:54. -
Re: Current Year 12 Thread Mark VI(Original post by Llewellyn)
So
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I take this to mean that for each of the m faces on the polyhedron, each m will meet the vertices n times? (So that mF counts the vertices n times?)Spoiler:ShowYou are correct
, though I think you have deviated from the notation used in the question. M=the number of edges on each face. F= the number of faces and n= the number of edges meeting at each vertex.
Edit: Each edge belongs to two faces, so Fm=double the total number of edges. Similarly each edge belongs to two vertices so Vn= double the number of edges.Last edited by Blutooth; 31-05-2012 at 13:01. -
Re: Current Year 12 Thread Mark VIYeah I messed up because I didn't realise there would be quite that much algebra, so when it didn't come out straight away I was a little taken aback(Original post by Blutooth)
Spoiler:ShowYou are correct
, though I think you have deviated from the notation used in the question. M=the number of edges on each face. F= the number of faces and n= the number of edges meeting at each vertex.
Edit: Each edge belongs to two faces, so Fm=double the total number of edges. Similarly each edge belongs to two vertices so Vn= double the number of edges.
That's quite a fun question though, and it's interesting that there are only 5 regular polyhedra.
Anyways; this is how I did it (eventually).
Some parts have been chopped off (terrible camera
), but it still gives the general swing of the method.
I'm guessing this was probably a BMO question, but I've been through most of the past papers and I can't recall doing itLast edited by Llewellyn; 31-05-2012 at 13:14. -
Re: Current Year 12 Thread Mark VINice solution. Surprisingly the question came from a STEP iii paper. Most of the STEP questions I've tried have been quite a bit more algebra intensive than this, but FWIW when I first did this question last year I found it hard. Anyway you seemed to make quick work of it.(Original post by Llewellyn)
Yeah I messed up because I didn't realise there would be quite that much algebra, so when it didn't come out straight away I was a little taken aback
That's quite a fun question though, and it's interesting that there are only 5 regular polyhedra.
Anyways; this is how I did it (eventually).
Some parts have been chopped off (terrible camera
), but it still gives the general swing of the method.
I'm guessing this was probably a BMO question, but I've been through most of the past papers and I can't recall doing it
I was gonna offer you guys a BMO2 question but not sure where is the right level of difficulty where questions are fun and not just demoralising.
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Re: Current Year 12 Thread Mark VI(Original post by Blutooth)
Nice solution. Surprisingly the question came from a STEP iii paper. Most of the STEP questions I've tried have been quite a bit more algebra intensive than this. Anyway you seemed to make quick work of it. I was gonna offer you guys a BMO2 question but not sure where is the right level of difficulty where questions are fun and not just demoralising.
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Re: Current Year 12 Thread Mark VIVery, very few people (even on this forum) would make light work of a BMO2 question. I know I'm not one of them(Original post by Blutooth)
Nice solution. Surprisingly the question came from a STEP iii paper. Most of the STEP questions I've tried have been quite a bit more algebra intensive than this, but FWIW when I first did this question last year I found it hard. Anyway you seemed to make quick work of it.
I was gonna offer you guys a BMO2 question but not sure where is the right level of difficulty where questions are fun and not just demoralising.
but that doesn't mean you can't post it as I suspect some people in this thread could give it a good go.
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Re: Current Year 12 Thread Mark VISomeone's keen.(Original post by wcp100)
Where are these BMO2 questions then?
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Re: Current Year 12 Thread Mark VIEverytime I try eliminating one of E or V in my expression for F, I end up with the other one.(Original post by Blutooth)
Happens to the best of us. Here's something else to keep you up.
Spoiler:Show
A polyhedron is a solid bounded by F plane faces, which meet in E edges and V vertices. You may assume Euler’s formula, that V − E + F = 2.
In a regular polyhedron the faces are equal regular m-sided polygons, n of which meet at each vertex. Show that:

where
By considering the possible values of h, or otherwise, prove that there are only five regular polyhedra.
I've been going in circles for a while, so I'm missing something important obviously.
I'll get there eventually... hopefully.
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Re: Current Year 12 Thread Mark VITutut. It's the horses head in someones bed then?(Original post by Maths_Lover)
Excellent.
There was an item of business that I forgot to sort out at school.
I thought I there was something I hadn't done...
In addition, my bicycle is soaked.
That happens when it rains!

I do like to see different ways of solving the same problem. 