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1. (Original post by chickenonsteroids)
good Llewellyn needs to do more fantastic procrastination

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I tried a few for the first 10 bottles of wine with 10 prisoners and obviously each person will try one. But if you mess around with the combinations it won't have to be 10.

If everyone misses out the first one and no one dies then the first one is poisoned. If everyone tries the last one and all of them die then you know that the last one is poisoned. Then there's some weird combination mathsy type thing that you'll probably have to do if you stretch it out to 1000 bottles. Just make sure that there's always a time of when 1 person isn't trying the wine.

I'm stuck
Indeed! Fun
Doesn't that need more people than mine?
2. Hmmmm....
3. (Original post by Etoile)
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(Original post by chickenonsteroids)
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Could it be something to do with he says drink from the bottle rather than drink the wine?
4. (Original post by Etoile)
Indeed! Fun
Doesn't that need more people than mine?
Nope, it'd need less. Each person can try a couple
5. (Original post by chickenonsteroids)
Nope, it'd need less. Each person can try a couple
But if a person tried two bottles, how would they know which one was poisoned?
6. (Original post by Etoile)
But if a person tried two bottles, how would they know which one was poisoned?
it's to do with the combination thingy. I haven't figured it out yet... don't hate

(Original post by wcp100)
Could it be something to do with he says drink from the bottle rather than drink the wine?
I don't think it's anything to do with language
7. (Original post by chickenonsteroids)
it's to do with the combination thingy. I haven't figured it out yet... don't hate

I don't think it's anything to do with language
I'm not too convinced with your idea...
8. (Original post by wcp100)
I'm not too convinced with your idea...
Neither am I
9. (Original post by chickenonsteroids)
it's to do with the combination thingy. I haven't figured it out yet... don't hate

I don't think it's anything to do with language
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Actually, say a person tried 60 bottles or something, then died. That means it's one of those 60 and the other 9940 are safe, so that could be more efficient. I'd say get two people to try 500 each, one of them will die for certain and you know that the 500 other bottles are safe?
10. (Original post by Etoile)
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Actually, say a person tried 60 bottles or something, then died. That means it's one of those 60 and the other 9940 are safe, so that could be more efficient. I'd say get two people to try 500 each, one of them will die for certain and you know that the 500 other bottles are safe?
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wouldn't you rather have 999 bottles for the most important banquet ever than 500? because you still wouldn't be sure which of the 500 are poisoned.
11. (Original post by Etoile)
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Actually, say a person tried 60 bottles or something, then died. That means it's one of those 60 and the other 9940 are safe, so that could be more efficient. I'd say get two people to try 500 each, one of them will die for certain and you know that the 500 other bottles are safe?
I thought of that but then you wouldn't have enough time to test the remainder....else 500 wouldn't be enough.

It's a contrived problem considering how rare wine was in medieval Japan.
12. (Original post by wcp100)
I thought of that but then you wouldn't have enough time to test the remainder....else 500 wouldn't be enough.

It's a contrived problem considering how rare wine was in medieval Japan.
Two people drink until they throw up If they only need a sip surely it wouldn't take that much time!

(Original post by chickenonsteroids)
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wouldn't you rather have 999 bottles for the most important banquet ever than 500? because you still wouldn't be sure which of the 500 are poisoned.
Well yeah but the point was that we haven't found that yet
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Maybe you were right about the ratio though, maybe something like 40 people trying 25 would be better, but I don't know how to make it the optimum number.
13. (Original post by --emma--)

2 physics, 3 chemistry, 5 biology.

How was your day?
It is true. I have an extension to stop that though! Will be using it in a minute.

At least they are ovre!

It was okay thank you - finished my music composition now!
14. (Original post by Heptapus)

It was okay thank you - finished my music composition now!
Ooh, well done!
15. (Original post by wcp100)
I thought of that but then you wouldn't have enough time to test the remainder....else 500 wouldn't be enough.

It's a contrived problem considering how rare wine was in medieval Japan.
I'm sorry... I was just trying to make the question more interesting

But you're right about the time problem, there would only be time for one set of runs.
(Original post by chickenonsteroids)
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(Original post by Etoile)
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I will say that there are no wording errors. The situation doesn't really matter. Basically, you have to find which 1 of the 1000 bottles is poisoned, you have any possible number of people to use for this, what is the lowest number you can use?

And what is the max. number of people that will definitely die using this method?
16. (Original post by Llewellyn)
I will say that there are no wording errors. The situation doesn't really matter. Basically, you have to find which 1 of the 1000 bottles is poisoned, you have any possible number of people to use for this, what is the lowest number you can use?

And what is the max. number of people that will definitely die using this method?
I know there are no wording errors. the number of people that'll definitely die is 1.

I think it's like >20 people. It's feeling not a calculation I have history to do
17. (Original post by Llewellyn)
I'm sorry... I was just trying to make the question more interesting

But you're right about the time problem, there would only be time for one set of runs.
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I know. I was just being picky because I couldn't solve it
18. Hello.
19. (Original post by tom181)
Hello.
Salve.
20. (Original post by wcp100)
Salve.
Don't start with the latin.

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