Current Year 12 Thread Mark VI
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Re: Current Year 12 Thread Mark VIIndeed! Fun(Original post by chickenonsteroids)
good Llewellyn needs to do more 
fantastic procrastination 
Spoiler:ShowI tried a few for the first 10 bottles of wine with 10 prisoners and obviously each person will try one. But if you mess around with the combinations it won't have to be 10.
If everyone misses out the first one and no one dies then the first one is poisoned. If everyone tries the last one and all of them die then you know that the last one is poisoned. Then there's some weird combination mathsy type thing that you'll probably have to do if you stretch it out to 1000 bottles. Just make sure that there's always a time of when 1 person isn't trying the wine.
I'm stuck
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Re: Current Year 12 Thread Mark VI(Original post by Etoile)
...Could it be something to do with he says drink from the bottle rather than drink the wine?(Original post by chickenonsteroids)
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Re: Current Year 12 Thread Mark VIit's to do with the combination thingy. I haven't figured it out yet... don't hate(Original post by Etoile)
But if a person tried two bottles, how would they know which one was poisoned?
I don't think it's anything to do with language(Original post by wcp100)
Could it be something to do with he says drink from the bottle rather than drink the wine?
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Re: Current Year 12 Thread Mark VII'm not too convinced with your idea...(Original post by chickenonsteroids)
it's to do with the combination thingy. I haven't figured it out yet... don't hate
I don't think it's anything to do with language
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Re: Current Year 12 Thread Mark VINeither am I(Original post by wcp100)
I'm not too convinced with your idea...
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Re: Current Year 12 Thread Mark VI(Original post by chickenonsteroids)
it's to do with the combination thingy. I haven't figured it out yet... don't hate
I don't think it's anything to do with language
Spoiler:ShowActually, say a person tried 60 bottles or something, then died. That means it's one of those 60 and the other 9940 are safe, so that could be more efficient. I'd say get two people to try 500 each, one of them will die for certain and you know that the 500 other bottles are safe? -
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Re: Current Year 12 Thread Mark VI(Original post by Etoile)
Spoiler:ShowActually, say a person tried 60 bottles or something, then died. That means it's one of those 60 and the other 9940 are safe, so that could be more efficient. I'd say get two people to try 500 each, one of them will die for certain and you know that the 500 other bottles are safe?Spoiler:Showwouldn't you rather have 999 bottles for the most important banquet ever than 500? because you still wouldn't be sure which of the 500 are poisoned. -
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Re: Current Year 12 Thread Mark VII thought of that but then you wouldn't have enough time to test the remainder....else 500 wouldn't be enough.(Original post by Etoile)
Spoiler:ShowActually, say a person tried 60 bottles or something, then died. That means it's one of those 60 and the other 9940 are safe, so that could be more efficient. I'd say get two people to try 500 each, one of them will die for certain and you know that the 500 other bottles are safe?
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Re: Current Year 12 Thread Mark VITwo people drink until they throw up(Original post by wcp100)
I thought of that but then you wouldn't have enough time to test the remainder....else 500 wouldn't be enough.
It's a contrived problem considering how rare wine was in medieval Japan.
If they only need a sip surely it wouldn't take that much time!
Well yeah but the point was that we haven't found that yet(Original post by chickenonsteroids)
Spoiler:Showwouldn't you rather have 999 bottles for the most important banquet ever than 500? because you still wouldn't be sure which of the 500 are poisoned.
Spoiler:ShowMaybe you were right about the ratio though, maybe something like 40 people trying 25 would be better, but I don't know how to make it the optimum number. -
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Re: Current Year 12 Thread Mark VII'm sorry... I was just trying to make the question more interesting(Original post by wcp100)
I thought of that but then you wouldn't have enough time to test the remainder....else 500 wouldn't be enough.
It's a contrived problem considering how rare wine was in medieval Japan.
But you're right about the time problem, there would only be time for one set of runs.
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xI will say that there are no wording errors. The situation doesn't really matter. Basically, you have to find which 1 of the 1000 bottles is poisoned, you have any possible number of people to use for this, what is the lowest number you can use?(Original post by Etoile)
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Re: Current Year 12 Thread Mark VII know there are no wording errors. the number of people that'll definitely die is 1.(Original post by Llewellyn)
I will say that there are no wording errors. The situation doesn't really matter. Basically, you have to find which 1 of the 1000 bottles is poisoned, you have any possible number of people to use for this, what is the lowest number you can use?
And what is the max. number of people that will definitely die using this method?
I think it's like >20 people. It's feeling not a calculation I have history to do 
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Re: Current Year 12 Thread Mark VII know. I was just being picky because I couldn't solve it(Original post by Llewellyn)
I'm sorry... I was just trying to make the question more interesting
But you're right about the time problem, there would only be time for one set of runs.
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Re: Current Year 12 Thread Mark VISalve.(Original post by tom181)
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Re: Current Year 12 Thread Mark VIDon't start with the latin.(Original post by wcp100)
Salve.
If they only need a sip surely it wouldn't take that much time!
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