[stanlas]

(Original post by tehFrance)
War like Dictatorships gets things done... no war, democracy et al just lead to failure.

Are you actually serious? The only things that dictatorships and wars are generally good at doing is... killing thousands of people. This whole notion of 'dictatorships are strong and get things done' is wrong. Dictatorships are ineffective due to corruption and a lack of controls on politicians.

[Mechie]

(Original post by tehFrance)
Please my family have already been through wars, I have lost family members during wars and yet I still support war.

War like Dictatorships gets things done... no war, democracy et al just lead to failure.

Oh Christ, I'm not even going to waste my time replying to you if this is the absolute tripe you come up with. It's just too much effort to even attempt to help you see things in anything approaching a sensible manner. There is so many things wrong with this post, somewhat of a trend in most your posts.

[RoryS]

Aye

[cl_steele]

whilst nice in theory its impracticle to always abide by such notions no matter how noble the premise. but i do however agree that we should try and abide by it as much as possible.

[Birchington]

A good bill. It's a real shame Britain has breached it's obligation to the Geneva Convention et. al. in the past through various reckless foreign policy decisions (IRL).

[Morgsie]

Both the EU and NATO have Solidarity clauses and the United Nations can authorise military action, Chapter 7

[mevidek]

Sure, an obvious one.

[Rhadamanthus]

We should be willing to break certain rules concerning warfare in order to save a greater number of people, yet we ought to face legal consequences for doing so if we are willing to take the risk.

[Mechie]

(Original post by tehFrance)
Please my family have already been through wars, I have lost family members during wars and yet I still support war.

War like Dictatorships gets things done... no war, democracy et al just lead to failure.

I'm going to respond to this a bit better this time.

How can you support war? (Note I said war in general, not specific wars)

War is widely regarded by almost everyone to be a bad thing, somewhat of a last resort, and nations which attempt to warmonger are almost universally condemned by everyone else. War brings injury, death, grief, sadness and a whole lot of totally unpleasant things. How anyone can support such a thing is completely beyond me.

You say that war brings wealth. Who does it bring wealth to? Very usually it is the select few, the weapons manufacturers, anything military related will benefit from war. You've conveniently missed out the people who war totally destroys their lives, who are in the majority. The people who have their homes destroyed, family members killed etc don't exactly benefit from war do they?

Do you believe mans natural state is to be at war? It certainly sounds it.

[tehFrance]

(Original post by davidmarsh01)
How can you support war?

War is widely regarded by almost everyone to be a bad thing, somewhat of a last resort, and nations which attempt to warmonger are almost universally condemned by everyone else. War brings injury, death, grief, sadness and a whole lot of totally unpleasant things. How anyone can support such a thing is completely beyond me.

You say that war brings wealth. Who does it bring wealth to? Very usually it is the select few, the weapons manufacturers, anything military related will benefit from war. You've conveniently missed out the people who war totally destroys their lives, who are in the majority. The people who have their homes destroyed, family members killed etc don't exactly benefit from war do they?

Do you believe mans natural state is to be at war? It certainly sounds it.

Because I can.

War is not bad, it is good. It solves things that cannot be solved at a table with meaningless words.

It would bring wealth to me... rebuilding a nation requires certain things that my family has a hand in

No, I don't believe that. Just because I support something does not mean that I believe our natural state is war... it could very possibly be that our natural state is war and we have evolved but still.

[Sisu]

(Original post by tehFrance)
Because I can.

War is not bad, it is good. It solves things that cannot be solved at a table with meaningless words.

It would bring wealth to me... rebuilding a nation requires certain things that my family has a hand in

No, I don't believe that. Just because I support something does not mean that I believe our natural state is war... it could very possibly be that our natural state is war and we have evolved but still.

Yes, war can solve problems. However, it can also create problems. It's context-dependent. You're essentially saying war is sometimes necessary and get things done that a lack of war wouldn't. No one but pacifists disagree with you on that. I think the confusion comes from people assuming you're pro-war even though there's alternative non-violent means of solving the problem.

Your second point is ridiculous. If someone is a homicide detective, is it right for them to go on killing sprees to keep their job safe? After all, they have a vested interest and benefit from killing sprees. You're forgetting war results in casualties of innocents. The killing of innocents should never be accepted because it economically benefits you.

[TheCrackInTime]

Division!