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    (Original post by paperclip)
    Noted, thanks, i had just stolen the example because it is thrown around here
    The problem working-class Maggie fans face is the sheer fact she hated the working class of Britain. She wanted to erradicate them either by sheer force through the use of state institutions of violence against them (especially the police) or by tearing away the institutions they held dear and throwing them up into the competition to climb up into her domain of lower-middle-class paranoia. Folks like Rakas who worship her are living a dilemma: are they proud of their roots (in which case they are alien to Maggie) or are they dogmatically aghast at the people like them but who don't want to "rise" up into the middle classes? Rakas is the latter, I think, and the same probably goes for Macdaddi. Like you, I've gone to uni and seeking to become either an academic or a teacher. Neither profession is working-class in nature but I feel that neither is part of the oppressive elements of society. My research, at least, is focused on the working-class condition and I work hard in the labour history movement too. I don't want to rise up and leave my class, as Gerry Cohen once wrote, I want to move up with my class.
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    (Original post by obi_adorno_kenobi)
    The problem working-class Maggie fans face is the sheer fact she hated the working class of Britain. She wanted to erradicate them either by sheer force through the use of state institutions of violence against them (especially the police) or by tearing away the institutions they held dear and throwing them up into the competition to climb up into her domain of lower-middle-class paranoia. Folks like Rakas who worship her are living a dilemma: are they proud of their roots (in which case they are alien to Maggie) or are they dogmatically aghast at the people like them but who don't want to "rise" up into the middle classes? Rakas is the latter, I think, and the same probably goes for Macdaddi. Like you, I've gone to uni and seeking to become either an academic or a teacher. Neither profession is working-class in nature but I feel that neither is part of the oppressive elements of society. My research, at least, is focused on the working-class condition and I work hard in the labour history movement too. I don't want to rise up and leave my class, as Gerry Cohen once wrote, I want to move up with my class.
    Oh, i am aware of the contempt that Maggie showed for the working class. Being into my alternative cultures i tend to use the beanfield eviction as a massive example of corrupt politicians and police, it really was quite brutal and no matter what your views on squatting nobody should be treated that way:



    The part in bold is how i have been deciding which careers to pursue. Beyond those you mentioned i am also interested in working in the probation service and social work but realistically i've little idea where i will be heading in the future. Whilst i do not especially like the police force, i would be aiming for the good side of it and rehabilitation. I do fear having to write a PhD thesis though, it has to be massive. I really am unsure of myself academically, so am taking a break from education. Time to enter the big bad world and see what it holds for me :p:
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    London rent... so expensive... must... sell... kidneys...
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    (Original post by paperclip)
    I do fear having to write a PhD thesis though, it has to be massive.
    About 230 pages of A4. It's not easy but it's not the most difficult thing in the world. That's getting through the marking of undergraduate exam papers, it's like they just don't bother listening to the advice you're giving.
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    (Original post by obi_adorno_kenobi)
    About 230 pages of A4. It's not easy but it's not the most difficult thing in the world. That's getting through the marking of undergraduate exam papers, it's like they just don't bother listening to the advice you're giving.
    Why would they? Most of them are there for a piece of paper that they believe will let them walk into any job they want :rolleyes:

    I do feel sorry for my markers, as my handwriting is terrible. I actually double space my exams just to make it slightly easier to read.

    I do understand though, it is really difficult to remember everything for an exam, and then to consciously make stylistic decisions in the heat of the moment. I do prefer coursework as it is cheating, the answer is in front of you all you have to do is build an argument :p:
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    (Original post by paperclip)
    Wow, so you have just admitted that private education is more about the old boy network than education itself.

    You see, socialists are typically accused by the right that being against private education is like cutting off your nose to spite your face because they supposedly provide boosted performance (to which i have provided evidence against). However, you have just illustrated exactly why private education is wrong. Under your rationalisation, i would have no qualms with banning private schools outright

    Your post actually sends shivers down my spine. And this is coming from a potential teacher.
    Well it's all true, isn't it? You can get an excellent education entirely for free, but you can only really buy access to certain networks.
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    Currently learning C programming and I'm not very good. Has anyone got any advice?
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    (Original post by davidmarsh01)
    Currently learning C programming and I'm not very good. Has anyone got any advice?
    Don't start with C! Don't have much advice other than that I'm afraid, I've never developed in it.
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    (Original post by Metrobeans)
    Don't start with C! Don't have much advice other than that I'm afraid, I've never developed in it.
    What's wrong with starting with C? Not that I can change it, because I have to for a uni module
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    This is bat**** crazy.

    14 Wacky "Facts" Kids Will Learn in Louisiana's Voucher Schools
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    (Original post by Keckers)
    She is an ignorant idiot like pretty much everyone with a seat in parliament.
    Yeah, I agree.

    Labour and some of the Green Party aren't ignorant idiots though, I have to confess.

    (Original post by Mazzini)
    You look what sorry?
    :lol: I know I admit it!

    (Original post by davidmarsh01)
    It's not really worrying. They do this in Scotland. They look at everyone's results, then set the grade boundaries accordingly, depending on whether it was an easy or hard paper.
    Oh, good to look at it from another angle. Yeah, the grade boundary thing is set at the last minute. Hopefully the grade boundaries are low and good this year.

    (Original post by meenu89)
    In other news, Boris doesn't want the top job just yet.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-19176739
    Good, I don't think it would suit him and I don't think he'd know where to start. Also another Tory government lead by him would be disasterous.
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    (Original post by RoryS)
    :lol: I know I admit it!
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    (Original post by Mazzini)
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    (Original post by meenu89)
    In other news, Boris doesn't want the top job just yet.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-19176739
    I've found a new BoJo quote for you:

    How could anybody elect a prat who gets stuck in a zip wire?


    (Original post by RoryS)
    :lol:
    I'll be watching your grammar very closely young man :hmmm:
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    (Original post by RoryS)
    Yeah, I agree.

    Labour and some of the Green Party aren't ignorant idiots though, I have to confess.
    They are all as bad as each other. They're all human they just wear different colour ties.
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    (Original post by Keckers)
    They are all as bad as each other. They're all human they just wear different colour ties.
    Hmmm, I suppose. Some are better than others.

    They are all human, apart from a few who might be alien-like with the same repeatitive rubbish they come out with in interviews etc...
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    Sad news about Bob Hoskins:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-19176729
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    (Original post by obi_adorno_kenobi)
    The problem working-class Maggie fans face is the sheer fact she hated the working class of Britain. She wanted to erradicate them either by sheer force through the use of state institutions of violence against them (especially the police) or by tearing away the institutions they held dear and throwing them up into the competition to climb up into her domain of lower-middle-class paranoia. Folks like Rakas who worship her are living a dilemma: are they proud of their roots (in which case they are alien to Maggie) or are they dogmatically aghast at the people like them but who don't want to "rise" up into the middle classes? Rakas is the latter, I think, and the same probably goes for Macdaddi. Like you, I've gone to uni and seeking to become either an academic or a teacher. Neither profession is working-class in nature but I feel that neither is part of the oppressive elements of society. My research, at least, is focused on the working-class condition and I work hard in the labour history movement too. I don't want to rise up and leave my class, as Gerry Cohen once wrote, I want to move up with my class.
    Indeed i am the second type, i find it incredibly illogical as to why anybody would not aspire to better themselves and move up the social heirachy, it just so happens that i desire a career in politics and this is seen as a high flying career.
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    It was not just education, the right to buy scheme aswell in the early 1980s.

    When I look at that period, I see it as waves.
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    This debate is pretty silly. None of you is particularly covering yourself in glory because all we are seeing is nonsensical rhetoric being thrown left and right. Particlarly surprised by Adorno here, you are way too smart for this.

    On a different note, Laura Trott is seriously fit.
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